there could be many shots at Lil Wayne on this album

[1TS OK4Y]

He only raps that style when he is rapping with Lil Wayne.

Incorrect

Most of Recovery is done in that voice with the exception of the deep tracks.

No, none of Recovery is tone in that exact tone. What are you talking about?


He is really angry, (more so than recovery's other songs), and raps VERY fast, name another song on recovery he raps that fast that he is actually out rapping the beat, it's a very choppy flow, and he ONLY talks about how whack everyone is.

[EminemBase]

For one, every song Eminem has done with Wayne has been in that extremely fast, serious, angry tone and reference being better than everyone in every song he has done with him. Forever, DTW, and now No Love. Eminem constantly talks about how he is the best and how "someone" isn't as good as him.

He only raps that style when he is rapping with Lil Wayne.

And the please tell me you don't think the Won't Back Down part was a coincidence

Okay and here's the REAL explanations for these points:

- Every song Em has done with Wayne has been a pointless indulgence in subversion. And given the fact that Eminem is a subversive artist, he's simply doing what he does best. He keeps emphasizing he's the best ANYWAY, all he's doing is rapping battle lyrics. Which he's done since he fucking began.

- Those songs have no particular theme to ride off other than their attitude, that's why you're getting freestyle-like verses from him. He doesn't have much to say in them so he's just being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. And where he's from, being lyrical is about flexing your battle lyrics. Being a smart ass, being the wittiest. Speaking to the listener and all competitors 'in theory'.

THAT is why all his verses are like that. The reason they sound like Wayne disses to you is because you want Eminem to be dissing Lil Wayne so you're taking his totally aimless battle lyrics and aiming them at Lil Wayne yourself. This point can be emphasized by the fact that... You could just as easily say Eminem is dissing... Rick Ross, or... Anybody in those verses and it'd fit. Thus = They are not specific to anybody.

If they were specific to Wayne, you wouldn't be able to do that. Since you can, this proves my point perfectly.

Also, you say those are the only songs where Em raps like that. Really? Okay, lets just take... Oh I don't know, the very first song off 'Recovery' - "Cold Wind Blows", opening lines he raps...

YOU CAN GET THE DICK, JUST CALL ME THE BALL SACK, I'M NUTS / MICHAEL VIC IN THIS BITCH.

Or how about "On Fire"...

Grab the scissors and saws and
Cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw
Then discribe how it tasted like dessert to us all

He raps like it throughout the entire fucking album and most of his albums. The 'you's' or things which sound directional are in fact aimless. They're just at any theoretical detractors of him, they're battle rhymes. The only people who think the lines are @ Wayne obviously only listen to Eminem so aren't familiar with what battle rhymes sound like or are deluded so much by their hate for Wayne they're tying to make anything fir. And aren't used to hearing Em rap like this.

He's going back to his roots so you'll sound a lot of fucking insulting lines from him. The fact they're prevelent on Wayne songs is because they're both being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. And that involves proving their lyricism by way of battle rhymes.

As for the "Won't Back Down" line, it's not a 'coincidence' he mentioned Wayne no, learn what that word means. Obviously Em knew he would say Lil Wayne's name as he wrote the fucking lyrics, he's not coming off the top of his head. But Lil Wayne there is just a pointless connector to get to 'syrup'. It's a zany rhyme and an excuse for wordplay. Nothing more. It's in fact more of a shout-out by the very fact he's using his name, but slurping syrup is not a fucking diss. It's just an excuse for him to get to wordsearch and circles.

That's all I have to say on this now anyway.

Anybody who knows what I'm talking about or has a brain can see I'm right and you're delusional.

[Jaz]

He's DEFINITELY dissing Wayne.. I know this because I saw Em's lawn, and the blades of grass were ALL between 1 and 3 inches long. Assuming there are between 100,000 and 200,000 blades of grass, that's enough grass to cover a full size stage around 150 times.

Now, everyone knows that 150 is Lil Wayne's favorite number, so it's pretty obvious that Em is trying to diss the number, and therefore Wayne, by saying 150 is so close to dirt.

[Dark Blue]

He's DEFINITELY dissing Wayne.. I know this because I saw Em's lawn, and the blades of grass were ALL between 1 and 3 inches long. Assuming there are between 100,000 and 200,000 blades of grass, that's enough grass to cover a full size stage around 150 times.

Now, everyone knows that 150 is Lil Wayne's favorite number, so it's pretty obvious that Em is trying to diss the number, and therefore Wayne, by saying 150 is so close to dirt.

WIN

[1TS OK4Y]

For one, every song Eminem has done with Wayne has been in that extremely fast, serious, angry tone and reference being better than everyone in every song he has done with him. Forever, DTW, and now No Love. Eminem constantly talks about how he is the best and how "someone" isn't as good as him.

He only raps that style when he is rapping with Lil Wayne.

And the please tell me you don't think the Won't Back Down part was a coincidence

Okay and here's the REAL explanations for these points:

- Every song Em has done with Wayne has been a pointless indulgence in subversion. And given the fact that Eminem is a subversive artist, he's simply doing what he does best. He keeps emphasizing he's the best ANYWAY, all he's doing is rapping battle lyrics. Which he's done since he fucking began.

- Those songs have no particular theme to ride off other than their attitude, that's why you're getting freestyle-like verses from him. He doesn't have much to say in them so he's just being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. And where he's from, being lyrical is about flexing your battle lyrics. Being a smart ass, being the wittiest. Speaking to the listener and all competitors 'in theory'.

THAT is why all his verses are like that. The reason they sound like Wayne disses to you is because you want Eminem to be dissing Lil Wayne so you're taking his totally aimless battle lyrics and aiming them at Lil Wayne yourself. This point can be emphasized by the fact that... You could just as easily say Eminem is dissing... Rick Ross, or... Anybody in those verses and it'd fit. Thus = They are not specific to anybody.

If they were specific to Wayne, you wouldn't be able to do that. Since you can, this proves my point perfectly.

Also, you say those are the only songs where Em raps like that. Really? Okay, lets just take... Oh I don't know, the very first song off 'Recovery' - "Cold Wind Blows", opening lines he raps...

YOU CAN GET THE DICK, JUST CALL ME THE BALL SACK, I'M NUTS / MICHAEL VIC IN THIS BITCH.

Or how about "On Fire"...

Grab the scissors and saws and
Cut out your livers gizzards and balls
Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with jaws
So sip piss like sizzurp through a straw
Then discribe how it tasted like dessert to us all

He raps like it throughout the entire fucking album and most of his albums. The 'you's' or things which sound directional are in fact aimless. They're just at any theoretical detractors of him, they're battle rhymes. The only people who think the lines are @ Wayne obviously only listen to Eminem so aren't familiar with what battle rhymes sound like or are deluded so much by their hate for Wayne they're tying to make anything fir. And aren't used to hearing Em rap like this.

He's going back to his roots so you'll sound a lot of fucking insulting lines from him. The fact they're prevelent on Wayne songs is because they're both being lyrical for the sake of being lyrical. And that involves proving their lyricism by way of battle rhymes.

As for the "Won't Back Down" line, it's not a 'coincidence' he mentioned Wayne no, learn what that word means. Obviously Em knew he would say Lil Wayne's name as he wrote the fucking lyrics, he's not coming off the top of his head. But Lil Wayne there is just a pointless connector to get to 'syrup'. It's a zany rhyme and an excuse for wordplay. Nothing more. It's in fact more of a shout-out by the very fact he's using his name, but slurping syrup is not a fucking diss. It's just an excuse for him to get to wordsearch and circles.

That's all I have to say on this now anyway.

Anybody who knows what I'm talking about or has a brain can see I'm right and you're delusional.

Cold Wind Blows and no other songs have the same flow Eminem has used in DTW, Forever, and No Love. I don't know how the fuck you're trying to say his No Love flow is like Cold Wind Blows or on Fire, are you joking?

And no, it's not a pointless connector in WBD. Does a Bird Chirp? (Birdman) then right AFTER he mentions Lil Wayne he says does a word search and gets circles wrapped (rapped) around it. He mentions rapping circles around rappers in DTW. Trust me Eminem knows it would sound like that, the guy is a genius like in elevator he says "They get so made when I call them both fake, it's (faggots)"

you're blind

[EminemBase]

^ SO YOU THINK HE'S DISSING HIM BECAUSE HE HAS A SPECIFIC FLOW

HE ALSO HAS THAT FLOW IN THE PROOF SONG

HE SWITCHES HIS FLOWS CONSTANTLY. BUT HE'S ALWAYS SAID LYRICS LIKE THIS, THEY AREEEE BATTTLE RHYMES.

YOU MORON.

PS. You think Eminem is systematically planning out specific flows to use only on Wayne-disses, interweiving subliminal shots whilst making them sound unspecific and insulting a man that he puts on his own album. And you have the gaul to say I'm wrong.

You're as delusion as a religious person.

[Kez]

^ Lol i'd just give up if i were you, there's no convincing this idiot. I'm lockin this shit