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did em ever really fall off lyrically?

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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby 77o77 » Jul 4th, '10, 13:41

:facepalm
He showed signs of light but tbh you are seriously fucking with yourself if you think he never fell off lyrically. He's made a huge jump for the better but he had a time where he couldnt even speak right.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby 77o77 » Jul 4th, '10, 13:47

_SacJB wrote:Eminem is the one guy that straight men go, you know? Im not homo but when i saw eminem, I swear I felt something!


No. :facepalm
If you "felt" something besides the beats bangin in your ear your a faggot. :coffee:
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Wic Kid » Jul 4th, '10, 14:20

MikeNUFC wrote:I dont write, so I wouldnt know how hard this is to write or anything like that. Obviously, on some Em songs you can tell. I'm purely basing on flow, lyrics and rhyming. Which are terrible.

And I see the internal/intertwined rhymes, but there avergage - "mims" with "pimps", "tumbling" with "something".

Obviously, if you write yourself you probably look at the verse differently, which is fair enough.

I still think its his weakest verse though. As in featurings, that is.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby BILI » Jul 4th, '10, 14:25

_SacJB wrote:Eminem is the one guy that straight men go, you know? Im not homo but when i saw eminem, I swear I felt something!

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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Evil-Genius » Jul 4th, '10, 14:29

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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Unscarred » Jul 4th, '10, 14:38

Evil-Genius wrote:Never

Bullshit. Of course he fall off. At one point everybody is starting to fall off lyrically
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby JotaMF » Jul 4th, '10, 14:41

yeah i think he did, althouht i think he stayed at a level most rapers cant achieve.... even in his dark era Em managed to spit verses like No Apologies and Spend Some Time
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Spend a million a track and went over my budget (Ohh shit!)
Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Lundra » Jul 4th, '10, 15:05

Like Toy Soldiers
Mockingbird
When I'm Gone


all terribley simple lyrics.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Wic Kid » Jul 4th, '10, 18:21

Lundra wrote:Like Toy Soldiers
Mockingbird
When I'm Gone


all terribley simple lyrics.


More emotionally driven, but less multies...if that means "fall of" lyrically or show less skill, then let it be.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby EminemInsider » Jul 4th, '10, 18:50

Wic Kid wrote:
MikeNUFC wrote:
Wic Kid wrote:Ems rhyme scheme and flow were pretty damn good in that song, so yeah, I agree that his verse was good technically. Dont let the concept and his accent fool you. Take another listen and read the lyrics. Or maybe its just me.

How's his flow good? It's all over the place.
Rhyme scheme was okay, I suppose, still pretty boring, but that doesnt make up for:

Well, I was gunna paste some bad lines, then I realised the whole verse is shit:

Welcome to the Midwest, yes
Where them Detroit playas ball like you have no idea
The more is here, got the whole place looking like it's candy painted
Ain't it like we left the kids at home and just let em loose with the crayons
Fuck, I just hit a jogger, people looking like Frogger
They hopping out of the way whenever they see Marshall's car coming
The kids painted my windows with black permanent marker
And let the rest of the car carpet color like swirl pops
And I got the bass thumping but I'm bound to bump into something
Kids are flying through the air looking like they krumping
The way they tumbling, I gotta do something
But as soon as I hit the car wash to get the tar off
They just right back at it tommorrow
They're like, "Dad this is in, so you're with the trends"
"This is for the pimps, listening to mims, nail polish on the rims"
And now it's custom chrome, but I gotta go do a show
So go on with ya bad self, just have it back to normal when I touch down


Half of it doesnt even rhyme properly.

Okay, Im gon' assume that you think that this "half" doesnt rhyme while you're LISTENIN to it, not while you read it of the paper, cuz that would be just...crazy. He's not a text rapper. I dont know how is that called in English, but his rhymes look like chained rhymes. He constantly spits without pausing, puttin a lot of intertwined rhymes into his verse, which makes this rhyme scheme look more complicated and rhymes are not quite acoustic. I write a lot too, and this kind of rhyme scheme is pretty hard to accomplish.


Actually, that's the easiest way to write. When you're just writing whatever comes to your head and throwing rhymes in wherever you can think of them without taking the structure of the bars into consideration...and don't care where it lands on the beat...well, anyone in the world can do that.

I started out writing like that when I didn't know what I was doing and then transitioned into writing actual bars to go with the beat. The more you structure something, the more difficult it is to do it.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Wic Kid » Jul 4th, '10, 19:51

@EminemInsider

It aint hard to throw some rhymes in there, you right about that. But doin that while you ride the beat as Em does...it aint same, fella.

EminemInsider wrote:and then transitioned into writing actual bars to go with the beat.


Wow, you talk like Em doesnt have flow when he does that. Are we still talkin about THE Eminem or what?
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 4th, '10, 19:54

hell yeah he fell off...big time
but he's back better than ever now imo
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby Wic Kid » Jul 4th, '10, 20:13

Of course he did. At some point, everybody does. Its just a matter of whether you have a good excuse for it or not.
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 4th, '10, 20:15

kamilniewulis wrote:his worst is all of the the TR's audio section's best, plus some MCs who are actually signed

i like my songs more than FACK and Big Weenie
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Re: did em ever really fall off lyrically?

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 4th, '10, 20:29

Geno wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:
kamilniewulis wrote:his worst is all of the the TR's audio section's best, plus some MCs who are actually signed

i like my songs more than FACK and Big Weenie

Alright, Fack and Big Weenie (2nd verse flow is orgasmic) are awesome.

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