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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Arrinef » Jul 20th, '10, 00:15

are we really analyzing this shit?

either way, im sure only he knows the meaning of what he's actually trying to say, this isnt some national treasure code or something :facepalm
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Lilyrussell » Jul 20th, '10, 00:18

Jaz wrote:The songs statement is unrelated though.

He says: "Shady I don’t understand your flow” as in some random person is saying that, and the reply is the rest:

Bitch, I flow like Troy Polamalu’s hair boy
Don’t you dare try to follow or compare boy
I’m raw, you ain’t even medium-rare
Stay the fuck outta my hair, boy
You can look, you can stare and point
But you can’t touch, I’m too clairvoyant
I don’t get it man, is there a void?
All this weak shit, what am I, steroids?

'Boy' is referring to ANY random person that might say they don't understand his flow. Over-analyzing things is often worse than not doing so at all, imo.


"Shady I don’t understand your flow” is a response from critics... It isn't over-analyzing that one is obvious..
Yeah it’s the best thing I could do right now for you Doodie is to rap
SO Imma fuck til I die, yeah Imma do it to death
And instead of mourning your death, I’d rather celebrate your life
Elevate to new heights, step on the gas and accelerate, Imma need two mics -
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Jaz » Jul 20th, '10, 00:21

criticS as in any random person.


Thanks for trying, play again some time.
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Lilyrussell » Jul 20th, '10, 00:26

ArrineF wrote:are we really analyzing this shit?

either way, im sure only he knows the meaning of what he's actually trying to say, this isnt some national treasure code or something :facepalm


But ArrineF, We're anaylzing it because this site exists - http://rapgenius.com
AND these posts exist - http://rapgenius.com/posts/Jay-z-eminem-and-renegade-who-killed-whom & http://rapgenius.com/lyrics/Eminem/Here-we-go-you-don-t-own-me
Yeah it’s the best thing I could do right now for you Doodie is to rap
SO Imma fuck til I die, yeah Imma do it to death
And instead of mourning your death, I’d rather celebrate your life
Elevate to new heights, step on the gas and accelerate, Imma need two mics -
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Arrinef » Jul 20th, '10, 00:29

Lilyrussell wrote:
ArrineF wrote:are we really analyzing this shit?

either way, im sure only he knows the meaning of what he's actually trying to say, this isnt some national treasure code or something :facepalm


But ArrineF, We're anaylzing it because this site exists - http://rapgenius.com
AND these posts exist - http://rapgenius.com/posts/Jay-z-eminem-and-renegade-who-killed-whom & http://rapgenius.com/lyrics/Eminem/Here-we-go-you-don-t-own-me

well ok,

my bad :flower:
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Lilyrussell » Jul 20th, '10, 00:32

Jaz wrote:criticS as in any random person.


Thanks for trying, play again some time.


um bomp, there is a difference between a Random battle rapper, a random woman, and random critic, and a random celeb, etc... the group he's aiming at defines the subject matter of the track, smarty pants...

"Thanks for trying, play again some time"
Yeah it’s the best thing I could do right now for you Doodie is to rap
SO Imma fuck til I die, yeah Imma do it to death
And instead of mourning your death, I’d rather celebrate your life
Elevate to new heights, step on the gas and accelerate, Imma need two mics -
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Jaz » Jul 20th, '10, 00:39

First off, everyone is a fucking critic. You're a critic, I'm a critic, critics are critics... You get the point.


Second, NO specific critic said those exact words that Em is now aiming at, therefore you cannot assume he's even talking specifically about a critic in the first place.


Lastly, 'boy' STILL IS NOT REFERENCING ANY SPECIFIC PERSON. That's the whole point. You were claiming it was related to some woman that he was talking about 2 verses back.

Sadly, saying something stupid and following it by quoting yours truly does not make your argument valid.
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Eminef » Jul 20th, '10, 00:41

aw fuck, you muthafucka's gave me a charlie horse in my jaw from laughing so much over here... Seriously this is fucking halarious to read!
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Lilyrussell » Jul 20th, '10, 00:43

ArrineF wrote:
Lilyrussell wrote:
ArrineF wrote:are we really analyzing this shit?

either way, im sure only he knows the meaning of what he's actually trying to say, this isnt some national treasure code or something :facepalm


But ArrineF, We're anaylzing it because this site exists - http://rapgenius.com
AND these posts exist - http://rapgenius.com/posts/Jay-z-eminem-and-renegade-who-killed-whom & http://rapgenius.com/lyrics/Eminem/Here-we-go-you-don-t-own-me

well ok,

my bad :flower:


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Yeah it’s the best thing I could do right now for you Doodie is to rap
SO Imma fuck til I die, yeah Imma do it to death
And instead of mourning your death, I’d rather celebrate your life
Elevate to new heights, step on the gas and accelerate, Imma need two mics -
R.I.P. Proof

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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby GenePeer » Jul 20th, '10, 00:49

Jaz wrote:Over-analyzing things is often worse than not doing so at all, imo.


It boggles me that of all songs in that album, people thought the hidden track was worth over-analyzing. Like it has triple meanings and shit. i think after 13-15 tracks with some 'serious' lyrics, Eminem would just want to spaz out on one (hidden) song.
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Lilyrussell » Jul 20th, '10, 00:54

Jaz wrote:First off, everyone is a fucking critic. You're a critic, I'm a critic, critics are critics... You get the point.


Second, NO specific critic said those exact words that Em is now aiming at, therefore you cannot assume he's even talking specifically about a critic in the first place.


Lastly, 'boy' STILL IS NOT REFERENCING ANY SPECIFIC PERSON. That's the whole point. You were claiming it was related to some woman that he was talking about 2 verses back.

Sadly, saying something stupid and following it by quoting yours truly does not make your argument valid.


Just answer this,

"Girl, I think you just might have tried
To pull a motherfuckin’ fast one. I’m mad
You just hurt my goddamn feeling
And that was the last one I had"

Who is he talking about? Who hurt his feelings, You? Me? a specific girl? a battle rapper? Or a specific group of Hip Hip Critics?


Anthony, I really think Beth is right! Just post there that you think she right, The song is a double entendre!

As you explain in the "About" women are also Bitches, sluts, cunts, and whores... But the Girl is Hip Hop Elite/Critics and the Bitches, Cunts, Sluts, Whores are Em competition/other MC's... also note - "run boy" in the third verse.

It breaks down like this.
"Girl, I think you just might have tried
To pull a motherfuckin’ fast one. I’m mad"

= "I was robbed and now I'm pissed" by that selfish bitch that chews him up and spits him out, or the obvious girl thing

"You just hurt my goddamn feeling
And that was the last one I had"

Same as "took my heart and ran it Straight into the planet, into the dirt, I can no longer stand it"

"Does this look like an arcade, trying to play games?
See this saw blade? See this silhouette
Of a stalker in your walkway? Better cooperate
Or get sauteed and rotisseried while you’re hog-tied

Does it look like he playing games? Best not try him, He'll roast your ass! (or the pic of the girl being hog tied after testing him, both work)

MC’s get so quiet you can hear
A motherfucking dog whistle when I walk by"

Now we discover what this is really about > This is why he's pissed, He shouldn't have been robbed, he's earned his recognition, he's better than those MC's (bitches)! He drives home how much better he is, and how full of shit they (MTV) are! That's what he came back for, to prove it and get his respect. Why? As any Rapper with a true love for the art will tell you, it the most important thing there is, It's all they can leave with. -- "A plaque and platinum status is wack if I'm not the baddest, _Eminem "Till I Collapse" so "Here we Go"...

You don't own me = Same as "I'mma take control of this relationship, Command it, and I'mma be the boss of you now, goddammit, And what I mean is that I will no longer let you control me"
Yeah it’s the best thing I could do right now for you Doodie is to rap
SO Imma fuck til I die, yeah Imma do it to death
And instead of mourning your death, I’d rather celebrate your life
Elevate to new heights, step on the gas and accelerate, Imma need two mics -
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby SajN » Jul 20th, '10, 00:55

Damn, I love you guys :laughing:
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Jaz » Jul 20th, '10, 00:57

You're like a .45 to my skull Lily.. You're blowing my mind.

The first lines of verse one DO NOT have to be talking about the same person as the lines at the end of verse 3, which comes minutes later. Even you cannot possibly be that naive.


Especially when one is 'boy' and one is 'girl'

Just stop. You're making yourself look stupid.
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Eminef » Jul 20th, '10, 01:02

Lilyrussell wrote:
Jaz wrote:First off, everyone is a fucking critic. You're a critic, I'm a critic, critics are critics... You get the point.


Second, NO specific critic said those exact words that Em is now aiming at, therefore you cannot assume he's even talking specifically about a critic in the first place.


Lastly, 'boy' STILL IS NOT REFERENCING ANY SPECIFIC PERSON. That's the whole point. You were claiming it was related to some woman that he was talking about 2 verses back.

Sadly, saying something stupid and following it by quoting yours truly does not make your argument valid.


Just answer this,

"Girl, I think you just might have tried
To pull a motherfuckin’ fast one. I’m mad
You just hurt my goddamn feeling
And that was the last one I had"

Who is he talking about? Who hurt his feelings, You? Me? a specific girl? a battle rapper? Or a specific group of Hip Hip Critics?


Anthony, I really think Beth is right! Just post there that you think she right, The song is a double entendre!

As you explain in the "About" women are also Bitches, sluts, cunts, and whores... But the Girl is Hip Hop Elite/Critics and the Bitches, Cunts, Sluts, Whores are Em competition/other MC's... also note - "run boy" in the third verse.

It breaks down like this.
"Girl, I think you just might have tried
To pull a motherfuckin’ fast one. I’m mad"

= "I was robbed and now I'm pissed" by that selfish bitch that chews him up and spits him out, or the obvious girl thing

"You just hurt my goddamn feeling
And that was the last one I had"

Same as "took my heart and ran it Straight into the planet, into the dirt, I can no longer stand it"

"Does this look like an arcade, trying to play games?
See this saw blade? See this silhouette
Of a stalker in your walkway? Better cooperate
Or get sauteed and rotisseried while you’re hog-tied

Does it look like he playing games? Best not try him, He'll roast your ass! (or the pic of the girl being hog tied after testing him, both work)

MC’s get so quiet you can hear
A motherfucking dog whistle when I walk by"

Now we discover what this is really about > This is why he's pissed, He shouldn't have been robbed, he's earned his recognition, he's better than those MC's (bitches)! He drives home how much better he is, and how full of shit they (MTV) are! That's what he came back for, to prove it and get his respect. Why? As any Rapper with a true love for the art will tell you, it the most important thing there is, It's all they can leave with. -- "A plaque and platinum status is wack if I'm not the baddest, _Eminem "Till I Collapse" so "Here we Go"...

You don't own me = Same as "I'mma take control of this relationship, Command it, and I'mma be the boss of you now, goddammit, And what I mean is that I will no longer let you control me"



Yeah I think she's prolly right too, but I don't get the last half of the first verse. Em may be a little too clever for me..
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Re: "Untitled"/"HERE WE GO" Help with Metaphor Meanings

Postby Kez » Jul 20th, '10, 01:04

Lily and EminemBase should have a kid; said offspring would be able to take over the world with his gargantuan essays
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