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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby BILI » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:41

Delivery on TES is close to the one on Recovery,White America,Soldier,Sing For The Moment,Say What You Say,Till I Collapse.Maybe I`m wrong,but delivery from Recovery is closest to the one on TES.
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Sam. » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:43

BILI wrote:I think he needs to start using autotune and techno beats.Also alot of fucking collabs with Gaga :worship:

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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby BILI » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:45

eminematherstan wrote:
BILI wrote:I think he needs to start using autotune and techno beats.Also alot of fucking collabs with Gaga :worship:

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You actually do know it was a joke?Right?plz tell me you knew.Well it was except for Gaga part,that bitch would give him a new LTWYL.In a month he needs a new song like that to top charts :whistle:
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Sam. » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:49

BILI wrote:
eminematherstan wrote:
BILI wrote:I think he needs to start using autotune and techno beats.Also alot of fucking collabs with Gaga :worship:

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You actually do know it was a joke?Right?plz tell me you knew.Well it was except for Gaga part,that bitch would give him a new LTWYL.In a month he needs a new song like that to top charts :whistle:

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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Kez » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:52

Kez wrote:
Berry wrote:It's obvious you guys just want an Eminem show 2.


Really? Cause i could have sworn i said this a page back

Kez wrote:I mean let's face it, he can't stay like he was in The Eminem Show forever


Gone surprisingly quiet now. Maybe you should stop trying to suggest anyone who doesn't think Recovery is 5 stars must "obviously" be moronic. :y:
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Pllumi » Jul 23rd, '10, 18:55

well, I agree on that shouting thing he's overusing :y:
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Berry » Jul 23rd, '10, 19:16

Kez wrote:
Kez wrote:
Berry wrote:It's obvious you guys just want an Eminem show 2.


Really? Cause i could have sworn i said this a page back

Kez wrote:I mean let's face it, he can't stay like he was in The Eminem Show forever


Gone surprisingly quiet now. Maybe you should stop trying to suggest anyone who doesn't think Recovery is 5 stars must "obviously" be moronic. :y:


I never mentioned anything about star ratings of Recovery. I just expressed my opinion on the continuous bitching about the same issues.

I mean let's face it, it gets irritating after a while.

ChristinaD12 wrote:My biggest thing. To a fan somewhere at some point is never going to be satisified. Which is fine. But why is a lot of these same people think Eminem should do what they think and not another fan who thinks something different. Like their opinion matters more. It's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time.

We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.


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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby classthe_king » Jul 23rd, '10, 19:34

ChristinaD12 wrote:My biggest thing. To a fan somewhere at some point is never going to be satisified. Which is fine. But why is a lot of these same people think Eminem should do what they think and not another fan who thinks something different. Like their opinion matters more. It's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time.

We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.


That's exactly what he did on Recovery...what the fans want, that's why it sucked. And his delivery is nowhere close to his delivery on TES. He was so much smoother back then.
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby xRas » Jul 23rd, '10, 19:36

Fuck off you little fanny hole
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby ChristinaE12 » Jul 23rd, '10, 20:11

classthe_king wrote:
ChristinaD12 wrote:My biggest thing. To a fan somewhere at some point is never going to be satisified. Which is fine. But why is a lot of these same people think Eminem should do what they think and not another fan who thinks something different. Like their opinion matters more. It's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time.

We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.


That's exactly what he did on Recovery...what the fans want, that's why it sucked. And his delivery is nowhere close to his delivery on TES. He was so much smoother back then.


See.. and that is the whole problem. He did what only some fans wanted. Which is why the "other" fans didn't like it near as much. So in the end.. It's always going to be something. He will never satisfy everyone at the same time. But for some reason people think he should do this or that. Which is why I say. Let the artist be the artist and.. Enjoy it.. Or hope we like how it turns out. If not, maybe next time. Just cause it is or isn't something we may agree with it. Doesn't make it any more or less important or special. Or in this case. A true classic or not.
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Elision » Jul 23rd, '10, 20:38

What.. The.. Fuck?

That's my favorite parts of the album. When he starts spitting super fast and compounding syllables like he's ripping his tongue out.. That shit's fucking powerful :worship: :worship: :worship:
i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
imma change your brain bring
every wicked bit of strange to mainstream
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby freaksworld » Jul 23rd, '10, 21:11

ChristinaD12 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
ChristinaD12 wrote:My biggest thing. To a fan somewhere at some point is never going to be satisified. Which is fine. But why is a lot of these same people think Eminem should do what they think and not another fan who thinks something different. Like their opinion matters more. It's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time.

We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.


That's exactly what he did on Recovery...what the fans want, that's why it sucked. And his delivery is nowhere close to his delivery on TES. He was so much smoother back then.


See.. and that is the whole problem. He did what only some fans wanted. Which is why the "other" fans didn't like it near as much. So in the end.. It's always going to be something. He will never satisfy everyone at the same time. But for some reason people think he should do this or that. Which is why I say. Let the artist be the artist and.. Enjoy it.. Or hope we like how it turns out. If not, maybe next time. Just cause it is or isn't something we may agree with it. Doesn't make it any more or less important or special. Or in this case. A true classic or not.


This. They only know things from their point of view, and think their opinions are better but not others'.
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby MikeNUFC » Jul 23rd, '10, 21:55

ChristinaD12 wrote:We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.

Yeah this forum would be lots of fun then. I dont like that album; shall I go on a forum and discuss it? Nah I'll wait til Em releases something thats perfect and I can go on and everyone can agree with each other all day. Sounds fun. Not. Without people saying what they dont like this site would be a shit hole. Every topic would be "Recovery is dope", "I love Recovery", "Favourite song?" - it would be boring as hell.

Yes, we know no album sounds the same lol. Thats got nothing to do with the argument - the argument is that this album has flaws. So let people pick up on the flaws, just like you let'd people pick up on the good bits.

dark456 wrote:LISTEN FAGOTS IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS MUSIC THEN GTFO..

UNTIL YOU CAN DROP A ALBUM I SUGGEST YOU STFU BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT MUSIC PERIOD. I SWEAR SOME OF JUST SIT THERE ALL DAY TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS ALBUM..

Dumbest argument ever. Unless I've dropped an album I dont jack shit about music? So you've never criticised something that you havent done? You've never criticised sportstars or policiticans?

"Damn, I hate Bush's latest policy... oh no, I cant say that unless I've been President" *runs for President and wins election. stays in power for 10 years* Now I have the right to form an opinion on Bush.

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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 23rd, '10, 22:01

Yo mike lay low man u just ethered them 2. :y:
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Re: until he ditches the shouting, fast flow and punchlines...

Postby ChristinaE12 » Jul 23rd, '10, 22:38

MikeNUFC wrote:
ChristinaD12 wrote:We need to let the artist do what they want.. If we like the outcome then great. If not, just wait til the next work comes out and hope it is what we wanted or liked. And with the way Eminem has proven to be up to this point. He is always changing and evolving. No two albums sound the exact same.

Yeah this forum would be lots of fun then. I dont like that album; shall I go on a forum and discuss it? Nah I'll wait til Em releases something thats perfect and I can go on and everyone can agree with each other all day. Sounds fun. Not. Without people saying what they dont like this site would be a shit hole. Every topic would be "Recovery is dope", "I love Recovery", "Favourite song?" - it would be boring as hell.

Yes, we know no album sounds the same lol. Thats got nothing to do with the argument - the argument is that this album has flaws. So let people pick up on the flaws, just like you let'd people pick up on the good bits.


No.. It's not about just voicing your opinion. That is more than fine and not what I'm talkin about at all. Who here really just voices their opinion. Not many at all. I mean everyone here who thinks their own opinion is correct and the only correct one. Or voice it as a fact. When it simply isn't. It's basic elementary tactics that people resort to and that is ridiculous. And only of that which I'm speaking on. That is the whole problem. No one here knows how to just debate or discuss. It's always more like... 'Shut up you are a dumbass only my opinion is right so fuck you, you're wrong.' Type shit. It's like elementary school all over again.

And when I say all this. I'm basically referring to comments like the OP saying Eminem won't ever have another classic album until he ditches certain things he himself doesn't like or agree with. Which happen to be the fast flow, shouting, and rapid punchlines. If this were the case. No Eminem album are or would ever be considered classic. Cause someone somewhere doesn't like something on each one.

That is all I'm getting at. People thinking their opinions are fact. Or that its better than the next persons. I'm not calling out just one side here. I'm saying people in general. Both sides are guilty of this.

Oh and for saying no two eminem albums sounds the same. It is and has been part of the convo. Cause people thinkin his next album will consist of the exact same shit. When in all reality.. There is a good chance it wont. And I not once said the album doesn't have flaws or said someone was wrong to think it has. But I also never went as far as to say something can't be something cause I think a certain way. In this case. If Recovery could be considered a classic or not. That is the main thing.

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