Can someone explain Space Bound please?

[Jaz]

Lmao at you taking only the lines that could come across as either drugs or a female and leaving out all the ones that make no sense.


First off. He says 'Don't ask me why I have no love for these muh fuckin' hoes' and then continues with the rest of the verse being unable to connect to drugs. He talks about the chick toying with his emotions, having no luck with the ladies (blood-sucking succubuses), having a hole in his heart like an emotional roller coaster.. how are those about drugs?

Okay, there's half+ of verse one that you left out.

Verse two: 'Why do we say that until we get that one person we think' onward.. He mentions finding the person you love and your emotions changing when theirs do, etc. Can't possibly be about drugs. I understand you're trying to explain a personification aspect, but that only works when it applies to the general metaphor in some way.

Okay, again, more than half the verse you left out that shatters your thoughts.

Verse three: he's choking someone because they left him, and blowing his brains out. Enough said.


Noooow take EVERY line you said is about drugs, they can even more easily relate to a woman. When there's a solid 50% of the song that does not make sense within your metaphor, and the other 50% could go either way; how do you assume it's about drugs?



--Also, I never said the song was about a real space launch. That's the REAL metaphor in this song.

[Fleka]

Maybe it`s about Em`s female drug dealer who he fell in love with. And they watched space shuttle launch together. On a clear night in June.

Pretty sure it is about a girl. It would be stupid if he asked DRUGS: "Just promise me youll think of me everytime you look up in the sky and see a star..."
And, in third verse he said "I'm tryin to stop you from leavin", so I guess that drugs did not wanted to be used by Em, but he chased them around?


If it is about drugs, well, then it makes no sense.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

A lot of people are dumb and take things way too literal

Personification is giving human qualities to inanimate objects. Em could have easily made drugs into a person and actually talked with them. People go crazy when it comes to drugs. It makes a lot more sense and makes the song a lot better if you think of it like it's about drugs (because of the whole concept of Recovery), but the good thing about Em is you can take what you want out of the song. Some can think it's about drugs, others about women. That's the beauty of art and music, my friends

[Jaz]

Lmao.

Okay, it's pretty obvious you're blindly trying to tell me I don't know what a metaphor can do, when it's you in fact who doesn't know.

The personification of drugs into women is possible, but the drugs can't do random things that women would do in a relationship, that cannot be connected in some way to something drugs do themself.

The example you gave, of hip hop thinking.. that was related to him being left off the list by PEOPLE involved in hip hop. People can think.

Women can have feelings for you and then suddenly that might change when you have some for them.
Drugs are in a constant state. They aren't going to turn their back on you.

THAT is what doesn't make sense. I could make the same comparison with other lines I cited. There's just too many lines in which the personification DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

I can take a shit on a piece of cardboard and say it's a metaphor for the way logging companies clear cut the forest, but sadly, that doesn't mean the metaphor works really can work that way.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Amadeo FTW

It shocks me how people can't take the parallels between 25 To Life and Space Bound and put them together. Em chose these songs for a reason, I've explained this. Em had two addictions, drugs and hip-hop. A RECOVERY from both was needed, Em needed to get off drugs and get over them (like you do with women) and he needed to kind of get over hip-hop and just make music for the sake of music, not to prove something (even though he says "I've got something to prove to fans..."). Em is a juggler of personas, making some of his music contradictions. And with such a mind, comes a level of insanity. It is very easy to take something such as drugs, and treat them as if they are a person, as if you are in a relationship with them. Both 25 To Life and Space Bound SEEM to be about women, but they are really metaphors for addiction. Only in 25 To Life, it's easy to assume the song is about Kim until he shouts "Fuck you, hip hop!". You have to know a lot about Eminem, as well as English (as in school) to believe the the song is about drugs.

Like I've said, the song can be taken both ways, and I think was meant to be taken either way. It can be about a woman, but why can't there be an underlying subtext about drugs in there? Relapse was an entire metaphor for drugs, why can't Space Bound be one?

[Jaz]

You have to know a lot about Eminem, as well as English (as in school) to believe the the song is about drugs.

Like I've said, the song can be taken both ways, and I think was meant to be taken either way. It can be about a woman, but why can't there be an underlying subtext about drugs in there? Relapse was an entire metaphor for drugs, why can't Space Bound be one?

Lmao, Relapse was NOT a metaphor for drugs as a whole. The concept of the album was that he was relapsing and taking drugs, yes, but that isn't a metaphor.

Oh, and I've been an Em fan for years, and have always been great in English classes in both high school and college. Where are you going with that?

[Jaz]

Lmao. You honestly blow my mind. You're not only reaching with what you're saying in the first place, but you're changing what he's saying, THEN reaching because it's still a stretch.

He says
"Why do we say that until we get that person we think's
Gonna be that one and then once you get 'em it's never the same
You want 'em when they don't want you, soon as they do feelings change.."

What feelings that drugs have are changing? What ANYTHING about drugs is ever changing? I can see your argument for Em's feelings about drugs changing, but the other way around doesn't work.


How can he 'stop someone from breathing' and say that's a personified version of drugs? What can he do to drugs that is the same as killing a person? What could drugs do that would be the same as a person looking into the sky, seeing a star and remembering him? Why would he want drugs to remember him even if they could?

I know EXACTLY what drugs can do. Nothing they can do can be related to the things I mentioned in that last section there.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

You have to know a lot about Eminem, as well as English (as in school) to believe the the song is about drugs.

Like I've said, the song can be taken both ways, and I think was meant to be taken either way. It can be about a woman, but why can't there be an underlying subtext about drugs in there? Relapse was an entire metaphor for drugs, why can't Space Bound be one?

Lmao, Relapse was NOT a metaphor for drugs as a whole. The concept of the album was that he was relapsing and taking drugs, yes, but that isn't a metaphor.

Oh, and I've been an Em fan for years, and have always been great in English classes in both high school and college. Where are you going with that?

English is my best subject, I'm in college right now. Relapse IS about drugs. Each song has drug references, except Beautiful, and each song was a metaphor for the crazy shit that goes through your mind. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you, it's futile and you'll never look at things from both sides. I believe the song is about drugs, but it can also be about a woman, depends on perspective. It seems like the people who argue it's ONLY about a woman refuse to even see the possibility that it's about drugs. That shows how open your mind is, which is not very

I wasn't even arguing with you, I was speaking generally, you're already in an argument with Amadeo, why would you bring me into it, just to insult my intelligence, when you don't even know me. I haven't called you a dumbass, why would you call me one? Just because I see a song, that's called SPACE BOUND (as in, 'getting high') for fuck's sake, differently than you do? That seems very chilidish to me, despite your boasting of how great in English you were. Plus, you pretty much make the same argument over and over, about how drugs can't talk or anything that humans do. If you were so great in English class, what would this be called?

It's called personification, and it's something you should have learned by the end of middle school. I'm done arguing with you, peace

[Jaz]

Lmao, you OBVIOUSLY don't understand that a metaphor can't be a direct reference like that. I know Relapse is about drugs, it's fucking obvious. I'm saying it's not a metaphor.

He says he takes drugs and he says he does crazy shit because of it. Where's the metaphor there? Back to the drawing board man, I stopped reading your post about 2 lines in because of the above.

[femzy]

Lmao.

Okay, it's pretty obvious you're blindly trying to tell me I don't know what a metaphor can do, when it's you in fact who doesn't know.

The personification of drugs into women is possible, but the drugs can't do random things that women would do in a relationship, that cannot be connected in some way to something drugs do themself.

The example you gave, of hip hop thinking.. that was related to him being left off the list by PEOPLE involved in hip hop. People can think.

Women can have feelings for you and then suddenly that might change when you have some for them.
Drugs are in a constant state. They aren't going to turn their back on you.

THAT is what doesn't make sense. I could make the same comparison with other lines I cited. There's just too many lines in which the personification DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

I can take a shit on a piece of cardboard and say it's a metaphor for the way logging companies clear cut the forest, but sadly, that doesn't mean the metaphor works really can work that way.

"Drugs are in a constant state. They aren't going to turn their back on you."

Incorrect. Drugs very much turn their back on you. In the beginning its all great, its fun and carefree, an escape from everything much like a new relationship, then you get it and you don't want it (it becomes an addiction) and turns its back on you.. it starts taking a toll on your body, ruining your relationships, destroying your life. If that's not a betrayal I don't know what is. Drugs are like love or an addiction to a person. Both can be addictive that's why both of you are close but no cigar. He wrote it as much about a woman as he wrote it about drugs. It's meant to be about both, and the lines are interchangeable throughout the entire song.

[Jaz]

Lmfao, any time someone tells me the third verse is from the drugs' perspective I automatically throw out everything they've said up to that point.


I didn't 'ignore' your exhibits, in fact I agreed with you that those ones could go either way. There's still MANY lines that don't make sense inside that metaphor though. You really don't get what I'm saying whatsoever. I know exactly what a metaphor is you fucking lame.

the 'fluttering in the wind thing' from your little poem you brought in just means people are just floating about in a huge universe. You know, something people do. It's a huge universe and we are tiny pieces of it.


You say yourself that the drugs aren't changing, but then cite the lines in which the drugs supposedly no longer want him. How is that possible? No matter what, he can have drugs.

Edit: And to the guy who just came in, I didn't say drugs couldn't do that, but how can drugs view of YOU change? Even after being personified something still has to somewhat follow it's own characteristics. Otherwise it isn't personification, it's just changing the subject. That's what I was getting at...in fact that's what I clearly said. You guys are just twisting my words. When I say turn their back on you, I don't mean after you take them, I mean before.

[femzy]

Lmfao, any time someone tells me the third verse is from the drugs' perspective I automatically throw out everything they've said up to that point.


I didn't 'ignore' your exhibits, in fact I agreed with you that those ones could go either way. There's still MANY lines that don't make sense inside that metaphor though. You really don't get what I'm saying whatsoever. I know exactly what a metaphor is you fucking lame.

the 'fluttering in the wind thing' from your little poem you brought in just means people are just floating about in a huge universe. You know, something people do. It's a huge universe and we are tiny pieces of it.


You say yourself that the drugs aren't changing, but then cite the lines in which the drugs supposedly no longer want him. How is that possible? No matter what, he can have drugs.

Edit: And to the guy who just came in, I didn't say drugs couldn't do that, but how can drugs view of YOU change? That's what I was getting at...in fact that's what I clearly said. You guys are just twisting my words.

Well I would assume that when drugs are finished with you they make you stop breathing and you die if you don't kill it first. In a metaphorical sense using personification drugs can go from being this great carefree thing to destroying you and then deciding it doesn't want you no more by trying to get rid of you. You cannot take drugs if you are dead... much the same way a woman may decide out of the blue one day she don't want him no more.

[femzy]

Jaz you are trying to make it be about one or the other and that is where your logic fails. It's not about one or the other, its about both. Ultimately it is a metaphor for addiction whether that be a woman or a pill or both.

[Solace]

Lmao at you taking only the lines that could come across as either drugs or a female

Yeah, it's called arguing. You don't provide IRRELEVANT evidence to back up your argument. A judge doesn't say to a criminal lawyer "Lmao @ the Prosecution for only showing fingerprints on the weapon and not talking about pink elephants and fairies."

[Jaz]

Jaz you are trying to make it be about one or the other and that is where your logic fails. It's not about one or the other, its about both. Ultimately it is a metaphor for addiction whether that be a woman or a pill or both.

Actually, that's not what I've been trying to prove. I'm just trying to explain to him that there's many lines that don't fit the metaphor he was saying the entire song is about.

Idk how he can possibly argue that it's about both, and then claim verse 3 is from the perspective of drugs. It's a flawed argument and I don't intend to let him use it.