Eminem's Longevity

[GenePeer]

One more thing you may want to add: Recovery is the first album to hold (is it 4/5?) weeks on top of both UK and US charts since... Eminem Show

I was too young when MMLP got out (8yr), i got into Eminem because of TES. I don't get how he sold that 1.7mill first week! Thus not just being big! I heard some documentary say it's also because of controversy, but his one single (TRSS) wasn't that controversial. Plus It was released just a week before the album, so it can't be because of the success of the single. Was it that he was just that big??

[Alaine]

^That album sold 150,000 in 7 weeks.
Em is selling close to 150,000 in his 7th week.
Thats the difference

I lol'd

I agreed with you though, being white helped him a little at first (caught people attention etc), it's a kind of gimmick too, but gimmick can only help you in short period of time, after that only talent stands, which is what Eminem CLEARLY proved by his longevity in the game. At this stage if anyone STILL saying he's selling NOW because he's white is delusional.

[EM-DZ]

Mr.Mathers the real artist
p.diddy+50 cent+all wack rapper make money from vitamine water+clothes not music

[Peace_Maker]

He's white. Like it or not it was a big factor in his commercial success. His longevity is due to his talent, a fan base only fades when the talent does.

C'mon son, I thought this was dealt with 10 years ago.

The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Madonna, Led Zeppelin, Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, David Bowie

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All of those are amongst some of the highest selling artists EVER, and yes they are all white too. Does it make any of their achievements less impressive just because they are white? of course not

Or are you just talking about "white rappers". There has never ever been, and (probably) never ever will be a white rapper that is as successfull as Eminem, never mind more successful.

(Yes The Beastie Boys enjoyed some success but they don't count, and they are a group. Em is a solo artist)

There have been hundreds and hundreds of white rappers that have tried, and there have been hundreds and hundreds of white rappers that have failed (commercial success wise). Being a white rapper doesn't automatically give you success. Look at Asher Roth for instance, and he is one of the more successfull ones and he hasn't done anything major. People don't even talk about him lol



^That album sold 150,000 in 7 weeks.
Em is selling close to 150,000 in his 7th week.
Thats the difference

Was like #5 on Billboard, and #38 in the UK (two of the main countries in the world for music sales)

If you're saying that being white may have helped him a little bit (Sales Wise) then fine, maybe. I see where you're coming from, but its not the sole reason he has been so successful.

Eminem - 86+ million albums sold worlwide

The 2nd highest selling white rapper of all time, is?? His sales will not even be anywhere remotely close to Eminem's

Thats what I mean when I say being white doesn't qualify you to automatic commercial success, or sales. Em is a unique motherfucker

You're seriously dense if you think that being white played no factor in his stardom.

[Alaine]

^ he actually said he agreed it might help him a little, but "its not the sole reason he has been so successful", which is obvious true.

anyway, I didn't know that Asher Roth's album failed that hard, I remember I love college was a hit, he is white so shouldn't he be successful? where did he go wrong?

[GenePeer]

^ he actually said he agreed it might help him a little, but "its not the sole reason he has been so successful", which is obvious true.

anyway, I didn't know that Asher Roth's album failed that hard, I remember I love college was a hit, he is white so shouldn't he be successful? where did he go wrong?

these days, a successful single is just a successful single, not a lead to a successful album.(e.g. B.o.B., Flo Rida)

[Ella]

When that video was released in 2000, Eminem was selling 1.79 million copies in his first week with the MMLP, and Rihanna was only 12 years old lol...

Lool u kno what else is crazy.. ALL of Rihanna's US album sales only equal to half of MMLP

[Alaine]

^ he actually said he agreed it might help him a little, but "its not the sole reason he has been so successful", which is obvious true.

anyway, I didn't know that Asher Roth's album failed that hard, I remember I love college was a hit, he is white so shouldn't he be successful? where did he go wrong?

these days, a successful single is just a successful single, not a lead to a successful album.(e.g. B.o.B., Flo Rida)

oh well at least b.o.b & florida has hits after hits, Asher had 1, poor boy Em's comeback stole his thunder

[MikeNUFC]

I think the main thing is the fact he hasnt overexposed himself. As Amadeo said, he's all about quality > quantity and it's so easy to get bored of someone if their jumping on every ones album and drop 3 mixtapes a year. From day one he's just released his best stuff (apart from Encore but that can easily be blamed on drugs).

Also the fact he's switched his style up from CD to CD. Listen to As The World Turns, then Criminal, then Sing For The Moment, then Stay Wide Awake then Seduction. So many different flows, styles and deliveries. Another thing to stop people getting bored of him.

Another reason is the mass-market appeal. Becuase of his style he appeals to so many different generations. You've got young kids who like the rebellion in his music, young adults who get the irony and wit, older people who can appreciate the talent and like some of his rock influenced stuff. he has rock fans, rap fans, pop fans.

Also he potrays so many different emotions that everyone can relate to. Yeah, not all of us want to kill our ex-girlfriend but everyone has felt heartbreak and pain and we can relate to that horrible feeling.

[Peace_Maker]

^ he actually said he agreed it might help him a little, but "its not the sole reason he has been so successful", which is obvious true.

anyway, I didn't know that Asher Roth's album failed that hard, I remember I love college was a hit, he is white so shouldn't he be successful? where did he go wrong?

these days, a successful single is just a successful single, not a lead to a successful album.(e.g. B.o.B., Flo Rida)

oh well at least b.o.b & florida has hits after hits, Asher had 1, poor boy Em's comeback stole his thunder

Why? How did that steal Asher Roth's thunder? Because Em is also white?

[Peace_Maker]

Let us get this straight.

Eminem = White + Talented

That's what I amount his popularity sky rocketing to.

Show me another artist who was white and talented before Em.

[Alaine]

Why? How did that steal Asher Roth's thunder? Because Em is also white?

yeah

[Jay-19]

Eminem is the GOAT, that's why he always stays relevant.

[Peace_Maker]

Let us get this straight.

Eminem = White + Talented

That's what I amount his popularity sky rocketing to.

Show me another artist who was white and talented before Em.

SouljaBoy = Black + Un-Talented

7 weeks at #1

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One Mic, what you have just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Emadyville]

Eminem is the GOAT, that's why he always stays relevant.

i should lock this thread and end on that