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Cinderella Man

Postby Elision » Aug 10th, '10, 05:19

Okay, he speaks a lot about time in this track.

But one question -- how does this relate to Cinderella? In fact, how does he relate to Cinderella at all?

Any help would be great :(
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Emadyville » Aug 10th, '10, 05:24

Well as far as I know he is referencing the movie Cinderella Man, not Cinderella. And in the movie the main character is the underdog and still becomes the greatest, even though he is at many disadvantages.

In the song I think he is trying to say that he is amazing at what he does, such as the "who can set fire to water", etc. And he talks about how he he fucked up with his addiction and putting out a sub-par album in Relapse (opinions aside because he specifically said this), that he is back and gunna "win" even though he is at a disadvantage (his addiction, being away from rap for so long, and putting out encore and relapse I suppose). This is also shown in the line "I will make no mistakes shit my...".

I hope that helped :y:
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby paradigmal » Aug 10th, '10, 05:27

Who can catch lightning in the bottle,
Set fire to water,
Commin out the nozzle on the fire hose,
Flyer than swatters.

^^ he can do anything

"Now guess who who (hey),
Heres a clue (hey),
He came to a ball in a wife beater
Lost his nike shoe,
It's in ya ass (hey),
He's in ya ass, he's all up in ya psyche too,
Now what's his name"

Cindarella lost her shoe at the ball

Cindarella is a story about a girl who lives in obscurity basically, and out of nowhere she gets this notoriety all of a sudden. Eminem was in a dark place, but yet, he somehow came up out of that hole he was living in- and rose back to the top.
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Lebron>Kobe » Aug 10th, '10, 22:49

Cinderella Man= Movie about a boxer coming out a retirement and dominating even though he is much older than his competitors. Hence the "fuck the past mother fucker hes the shit right now" line.
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby mrjizzbomber » Aug 10th, '10, 23:50

paradigmal wrote:Who can catch lightning in the bottle,
Set fire to water,
Commin out the nozzle on the fire hose,
Flyer than swatters.

^^ he can do anything

"Now guess who who (hey),
Heres a clue (hey),
He came to a ball in a wife beater
Lost his nike shoe,
It's in ya ass (hey),
He's in ya ass, he's all up in ya psyche too,
Now what's his name"

Cindarella lost her shoe at the ball

Cindarella is a story about a girl who lives in obscurity basically, and out of nowhere she gets this notoriety all of a sudden. Eminem was in a dark place, but yet, he somehow came up out of that hole he was living in- and rose back to the top.


...

sarcasm, right?

Its about the movie, guy.
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Elision » Aug 10th, '10, 23:54

Thanks guys. Didn't know there was a movie. I actually came to my sister for the story of Cinderella, and I couldn't figure out the whole time thing :'(


Obviously, I got the whole losing her shoe at the ball and all that ;)
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby shadyfalcon » Aug 11th, '10, 00:02

It is not about the movie at all. Think about March Madness, a team that makes it far in the tournament when they are not expected to is a Cinderella team. The term 'Cinderella anything' just refers to the fact that this 'anything' is an underdog and is exceeding expectations.

The term was around long before the movie, thus this is how the movie got its name.
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Disabled_Bum » Aug 11th, '10, 00:26

I'm Sorry The Answer To This, Just Does Not Come To My Mind At All.
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby DƎRDYPK » Aug 11th, '10, 00:26

Disabled_Bum wrote:I'm Sorry The Answer To This, Just Does Not Come To My Mind At All.


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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Skip2Malu52 » Aug 11th, '10, 00:39

Lol at anyone who thinks the song has anything to do with the movie of the same name. :laughing:
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby mrjizzbomber » Aug 11th, '10, 03:40

Skip2Malu52 wrote:Lol at anyone who thinks the song has anything to do with the movie of the same name. :laughing:


Jesus fucking christ people...

The movie was about a supposedly washed up boxer who comes back to become a champion.

Now... see if you can replace a single word in the above one-sentence synopsis and have it apply remarkably well to Eminem.

Its not ABOUT the movie, or anything, but the term "Cinderella Man" is supposed to make you think of comebacks and triumph...

He did the same title-your-track-with-the-name-of-a-movie-to-succinctly-state-the-meaning-of-your-song thing once before... Rain Man anyone?

Edit: Yes, the 'came to the ball in a wife beater, lost his nike show' bit is a reference to the old fairytale... Eminem has the uncanny ability to use a phrase in multiple contexts. But if you think Eminem is calling himself Cinderella,...
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby mrjizzbomber » Aug 11th, '10, 03:41

Just to make your super-difficult analysis of this song easier, here are the lyrics that are relevant to the ideas of triumph, comebacks, rising up and determination which are the themes of the movie Cinderella Man:
yeah,
you know technically,
im not even really supposed to be here right now,
so fuck it,
might as well make the most of it.

ahh ah ah ah eh eh eh eh ehhh

yeah, haha
feels good,
whooo,
guess im lucky,
some of us don't get a second chance.
but i aint blowing this one.
naw man, haha,
shit i feel like i can do anything now

who can catch lightning in the bottle,
set fire to water,
commin out the nozzle on the fire hose flyout, and squat us

cinderella man, cinderella man, cinderella man, cinderella man.

smash an hour glass,
grab the sand,
take his hands an cuff em,
spin around to freeze the clock,
take the hands of time an cuff em.

theres a storm commin that the weather man couldn't predict,
i start the ball prick you better flee cuz i get ticked
its a rap, i was down, when i was down i was kicked
i got up
im bout to punch ya to the ground, ya trick,
its a trap,
fuck my last cd this shits in my trash,
i be god damned if another rapper gets in my ass,
i hit the gas and i spit every rap as if its my last.
you can die in the blink of an eye,
so batchin ya eyelashes, and keep winking and blown kisses
cuz your flirting with death
im destroying your livelihood, i aint just hurting your rep,
i catch a flow and get goin,
no remorse, im showinn they slowin, for no one,
knowin there is nothing you can do about it
zero in on the target like a marksman,
the target is you,
i shut ya lane down,
took ya spot, parked in it too,
watchin it flow, lighter fluid, saliva what can ya do,
go get ya crew to hype ya up stand behind you like whoooo!
that boys hot enough to melt hell burn satan too,
fry his ass, and put his asses back together with glue,
see you can hate em, he don't blame you frankly he would too,
this game could ill afford to lose him,
how bout you?

now guess who who(hey),
heres a clue(hey),
he came to a ball in a wife beater
lost his nike shoe,
its in ya ass(hey),
he's in ya ass, he's all up in ya psychy too,
now whats his name

cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,

if i had a time machine, im missin you,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
music is my time machine so call me,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,

fuck catching a lightnin
he struck it
screamed shut up and thunder,
flipped the world upside down and made it rain upward
cinderella man
cinderella man
cinderella man
cinderella man,

rewound the future to the present,
paused it don't ask how,
fuck the past motherfucker
he's the shit right now he's

cinderella man
cinderella man
cinerella man
cinderella man..

cinderella man
send the fellow shady dang came to wrap the game up
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in cellophane,
raise hell from hell he came,
but didn't come to bore you with the cinderella story,
nor did he come to do the same,
he cant afford to be a label in this day in age,
and at this stage of the game
mediocrity cannot be allowed to fly,
so say bye,
to the O H I,
to the new case of rock
consider it as last of rod,
coop degraww
raise em high in the sky,
keep em up
time to bring the place alive,
thanks for bein patient
i will make no more mistakes,
shit my potatoes baked,
hommie the veggies on my plate can fly,
my fillet is smoking weed,
get back if the steaks are high,
shit i ain't even suppose to be here
by the grace of God,
the skin on my teeth
and the hair on my nuts
i skated by,
now y'all are on thin ice
with anchor weights i hate to lie,
how fuckin irritated are you,
how much in ya face am i,
it aint shit you could do beferret,
prove us here in spirit
im the spittin image
ill mirror it
when i stand near it,
your pussy lyric,
i couldn't hear it,
who forms pyramids and raps circles around square Lyricists,
who?
here's a clue.
he came to the ball in his wife beater,
lost his nike shoe, its in ya ass, he's in ya ass,
he's all up in ya psychy too.

cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,

if i had a time machine, im passin ya,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,

music is my time machine so call meee,

cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
cinderella man,
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby Heffernan » Aug 11th, '10, 04:34

Emadyville wrote:Well as far as I know he is referencing the movie Cinderella Man, not Cinderella. And in the movie the main character is the underdog and still becomes the greatest, even though he is at many disadvantages.
In the song I think he is trying to say that he is amazing at what he does, such as the "who can set fire to water", etc. And he talks about how he he fucked up with his addiction and putting out a sub-par album in Relapse (opinions aside because he specifically said this), that he is back and gunna "win" even though he is at a disadvantage (his addiction, being away from rap for so long, and putting out encore and relapse I suppose). This is also shown in the line "I will make no mistakes shit my...".

I hope that helped :y:

cinderella is the underdog, who "becomes the champion" even though she was faced with many disadvantages

i see where the name comes from :whistle:


ive reasd some pretty supid comments in this thread

damn

every single time the word "cinderella" is mentioned it OBV is referencing the MOVIE cinderella...u know the classic fairlytale...yes that is where the boxing movie got its name from too...think about it
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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby neomerge » Aug 11th, '10, 05:33

Nollie wrote:Okay, he speaks a lot about time in this track.

But one question -- how does this relate to Cinderella? In fact, how does he relate to Cinderella at all?

Any help would be great :(


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Re: Cinderella Man

Postby WakeUpShow » Aug 11th, '10, 05:40

trinell05 wrote:Wrong, wrong wrong.

Eminem is Cinderella and Dr. Dre is the fairy godmother (Eminem doesn't realize Dre is the godmother at this point) who transforms him into a fuckable bitch who then goes to the Rap Olympics. But Eminem loses and he runs out of the arena crying, he drops his demo tape on the floor, which Dre finds. Dre uses to voice recognition software with his beats headphones and determines that the voice must come from Detroit or something, but doesn't realize the rapper on the tape is white. He posts a bulletin, asking for the missing rapper to show himself. Eminem doesn't see the notice but Debbie does and is all like, "oh my gawd, my fucking loser son is gonna get it!" but she passes out before she can respond to the ad. Some magic happens and Dre then contacts Eminem with a record deal. Fuckin Cinderella Man. :worship:

I got that on the first listen. But Eminem needs to be careful because his microphone will turn back into a cock at 40. :o

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