The Draft now known as the Selective Service System...

[Ivy]

The United States had a conscription, or mandatory military service, also known as the Draft....it was used a while back in World War I and World War II and also in the Vietnam War...The United States discontinued the Draft in 1973...Now in the United States, we have the Selective Service System or the SSS...this law first established in 1917...says that all males, over the age of 18 and below the age of 26, are required by law to register with the system for the purpose being readily available for potential soldiers in the event of war...All males must register within 30 days after their 18th birthday...is it justified that women aren't required by law to do the same???...If a male doesn't register within the limited amount of time...he could face up to 5 years in jail...and a chance of a 250,000 dollar fine...however...in 1986..the legislature revised this method and created an alternate one...The alternative method of encouraging registration, federal legislators and most state legislators passed laws requiring that in order to receive financial aid, federal grants and loans, and certain government benefits, an individual had to be registered with selective service...however...upon registering in the SSS...an individual can not say that he is Conscientious objector..which means thatis an individual whose personal beliefs are incompatible with military service, perhaps with any role in the armed forces (in which case he is either pacifist or antimilitarist) or object to a particular war...however..if one is drafted...they are allowed to say that they are a Conscientious objector...however...it is not stated by law whether this will prohibit them from going to war...There is one downfall to the SSS..which falls under the Selective Service Act...the SSS violates the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution...

13th Amendment: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction...

Men, if a draft is needed, are placed in several categories...the first to go would be those of the Armed Forces...then the rest are examined and placed into 4 Main Classes with several sub-classes...The Director of the Selective Service System is William A. Chatfield, appointed in October 29th, 2004, by President George W. Bush...

Is it justified that an individual can be "volun-told" to serve for their country in a time of war???....What is your opinion on women not being required...rather..not allowed..to register with the Selective Service System???

[Ivy]

My thoughts are why aren't women allowed to register...a lot of women are willing to go to war...and slowly we're just being allowed to...however...I think the SSS is needing to be revised for this century...not the 1900s...

[dantespyke]

Women arnt being drafted because of the infections that their reproductive places can get when in a dirty battlefield for months on end

[Ivy]

Okay??? ....men can also recieve infections...deadly ones...and shit..but that's no right for women not being able to serve their country...

[AspirinE]

Okay??? ....men can also recieve infections...deadly ones...and shit..but that's no right for women not being able to serve their country...

women shouldnt serve in the first place. ..


women are needed for continuation of family, and child support. Its like the fundumental shit, how hard is to know ur place in this world. Men have testosterone that boosts blood and competition appetite, women have oestrogen to be sentimental and compasionate, together those qualities make symbiosis (marriage). Women go to army, only to try and prove points. For a deskjob women is fine, but in combat- wat is a woman that is genetically deveoleped to have less muscle, and stamina gonna do ( the woman becomes a burden ).

[Ivy]

For myself being a woman..have a restriction like that is like an insult to the femine gender...We have all the abilities as men do to go to war...we may serve the mother and "house" wife if you want to call it...but men are also fathers and some are "house" husbands...Women have the mental ability and physical functioning to serve in war...How hard is it for a woman to pull a trigger back...today there is less hand to hand combat...but more weaponry...and we'd have the same gear and equipment on...and if we should not serve our country in combat...then why are women allowed to join the armed forces...is it because we're desk jockies???...women are cops...they get killed everyday...I just see the unfairness in this situation...

[AspirinE]

For myself being a woman..have a restriction like that is like an insult to the femine gender...We have all the abilities as men do to go to war...we may serve the mother and "house" wife if you want to call it...but men are also fathers and some are "house" husbands...Women have the mental ability and physical functioning to serve in war...How hard is it for a woman to pull a trigger back...today there is less hand to hand combat...but more weaponry...and we'd have the same gear and equipment on...and if we should not serve our country in combat...then why are women allowed to join the armed forces...is it because we're desk jockies???...women are cops...they get killed everyday...I just see the unfairness in this situation...

Lmao ... women...


Women dont NEED to go to war, and dont need to serve, and no u dont have the physical and mental aility to survive the a real war, not like iraq of course, were american and english soldiers go to humiliate and slaughter civilians to free them. In times of war(real war), women are needed at home, as they have to be with the family as comforter, its just stupid that they would go to war. i know some women try to be "ballbusters" and have to try to prove to men that they can, but its for your own good that u shouldnt go. Men are far more eficient at taking risks than women are, and its just the way it is. men fight for pleasure, women dont its something that is fundumental and shouldnt be changed. I for one being of socialist view dont support war at all and women, seeking a carreer in killing other people is just fucking imoral. Letting women go to war will make people even more blood firsty and cruel, sometimes giving someone a right to do something has effect on many others, so people needa think of society.

[Ivy]

LMAO...men...



I see your point of view...I really do...but you're not told you can't do something...just because of your sexuality...men have always been the first to do things...but slowly...women have earned what men have had all along...women do fight in war...take a look at that one chick when the war first began that got taken hostage..or what-not...and look at the casualty rate in Iraq...it's not only men...but includes women aswell...now...women are over on the front line...but they have certain "restricitions"...women...do have the mental capadability to survive in war...our brains are just the same as men...you're right...women do try to outdue men...it's because men doubt our ability to do things...when if they look at themselves...they might not be able to do things...women and men share a lot in common...they differ in a lot of things...but to deny someone of something...just because of gender is just being sexist and is bullshit...(my opinion on the matter)...

[AspirinE]

LMAO...men...



I see your point of view...I really do...but you're not told you can't do something...just because of your sexuality...men have always been the first to do things...but slowly...women have earned what men have had all along...women do fight in war...take a look at that one chick when the war first began that got taken hostage..or what-not...and look at the casualty rate in Iraq...it's not only men...but includes women aswell...now...women are over on the front line...but they have certain "restricitions"...women...do have the mental capadability to survive in war...our brains are just the same as men...you're right...women do try to outdue men...it's because men doubt our ability to do things...when if they look at themselves...they might not be able to do things...women and men share a lot in common...they differ in a lot of things...but to deny someone of something...just because of gender is just being sexist and is bullshit...(my opinion on the matter)...

Women dont go to frontlines in major wars, they hold positions that are less dagerous. If ur a woman that wants to take on a mans job then ur a dyke, fo real. Tell me wat the fuck for there are enough men to go to the army, they should send the faggots to the army so they can BECOME MEN..

its not about gender its about moral and social values (the thing that america lacks greatly these days), sexism is wen women arent aloud to vote ( even though we have the almost the same brainsize an are no less different in intellect. How hard is it to admit that u do not have BALLS.
See those two things on ur chest? yes, they are tities, they are for breast feeding, mother nature gave u a hint!


EDIT: and dont mention iraq, coz its like safari for americans, theres little resistance, the only way people resist is by killing themselves. Its a facist war were a country that has unlimited power exploits other peoples rights.
Women that go to that war, dont get no respect from me, infact after i finally dominate the world, i will send them to gulaks for hard labour ment especially for men.

[Ivy]

It's not about going to the frontline and fighting...but for the women...it's just being able to know that you can...being told you can't do something, just makes you want to do it more...To deny someone of something that they are capable of doing is unjust...but to grant them to do something, doesn't mean their going to do it...just to know you can do it is fair enough...however...I see where your point is heading and where it is...

[Ivy]

i have a question......when you register, do you go to training...or do you just sighn papers and stuff

It's required that you register...you're automatically registered when you go to vote...but if you register...you sign a legal document...but you're not enlisted into the Armed Forces...you're only required to fight if the draft is reopened as you want to put it...However...if you enlist into the Armed Forces...then yeah...you have to fight...because you're working for the government...

[AspirinE]

Tell me wat the fuck for there are enough men to go to the army, they should send the faggots to the army so they can BECOME MEN..

LMAO!! Your hate for faggots is funny

See those two things on ur chest? yes, they are tities, they are for breast feeding, mother nature gave u a hint!

Not just for breat feeding, but for other things aswell

LMAO!


Ok, on a more serious note: She kinda does have a point there. Women should be able to do everything men can do. Only thing I find wrong with it is that war is probably too dangerous for women anyway. Not that they can't handle it (most couldn't) but like...men are natually stronger than women and more....how do I put this?....Built for fighting. It just seems to be more of a mans job (if that's how you put it)

I can send my dog to war too, and it is faster than women and more loyal.


lets say a woman with a good agility and strength(for a woman) has to go mono-a-mono against an iraqi with a lot of facial hair, agility and strength that is beyond average. Wat is she gonna do? ...

If women say they have the courage to go to war, then i should be aloud to go to the nearest irish pub and knock a bitch(female bitch) out for calling me a "ruski". Two way standarts wont do. If women are tough enough to go to through man slaughtering frontlines than they should stop bitching about insignificant pain or situation.

Any woman that actually has the same strength of controlling emotional contcentration on competition as a man,then she probably has an exesive level of testosterone caused by poisonouse nail glitter and already has a mini-penis growing somewere in the pubic jungles.

[Ivy]

lets say a woman with a good agility and strength(for a woman) has to go mono-a-mono against an iraqi with a lot of facial hair, agility and strength that is beyond average. Wat is she gonna do? ...

Aim her pistol to the Iraqi's facial hair face and pull the trigger...of course...the safety better be off...better yet...let's use the AK-47....women are trained and qualified by the government before they can go anywhere near the frontline...their trained just like the men...so how can you judge whether a woman is going to or not going to know what she's doing???...

[AspirinE]

lets say a woman with a good agility and strength(for a woman) has to go mono-a-mono against an iraqi with a lot of facial hair, agility and strength that is beyond average. Wat is she gonna do? ...

Aim her pistol to the Iraqi's facial hair face and pull the trigger...of course...the safety better be off...better yet...let's use the AK-47....women are trained and qualified by the government before they can go anywhere near the frontline...their trained just like the men...so how can you judge whether a woman is going to or not going to know what she's doing???...

Iraqies can be trained ones too u know, u need watch some real wars, were guys high on weed dont spread poisonous gas on civilian areas, and murder them and have time to strip prizoners naked and make pictures.


Would u let me punch you as hard as i would punch another guy? No, id be sued for assualting a "weaker sex".

Unless u girlies aint willing to deal with the equality and completely equal rights, u shouldnt pull the sexism card in my face.

[Ivy]

If we were to get into a physical arguement...I would want you to use your strength...I wouldn't want you to hold anything back...The fight wouldn't be justified as a fight...


And I'm not playing the sexist card...you're just thinking that women aren't capable of doing something, when you yourself aren't one...I can't judge from a guys point of view...because I don't know what the guy's weaknesses are or not...but I can judge from being a woman and living my life as one...and for all the "faggots" in the military...there are a lot...but of course...it's "don't ask....don't tell.."....a faggot can't be asked if their gay...and they can't say if their gay...that's another descrimination right there...why can't faggots be in the military??? I don't want them in their..because their brain is already chemically unstable...but what do the people that are homosexuals think about not being able to go in the military or not being able to fight in war...it's the same viewpoint as women...but all that I've said is just my opinion...is it just??? Well...to me it is...to you it may be total bullshit...