Is Recovery a true comeback album?

[Devil'sAdvocate]

no,relapse is.

[buffalo bill]

Why does he denounce it now? Too influenced by fan reactions, reviews etc.? Or perhaps he was still in a bad place after getting clean and he doesn't like to think about that time now?

Yes, I've been thinking that too. The dark tone of the album and all that.

Saw an interview with Jonathan Ross he did to promote Recovery where he explained that he likes Relapse but thinks it's too narrow in focus, which struck me as more on point than the nonsense on Not Afraid.

He actually said he does like it? That's great. I wonder if there is a youtube link or something? [Edit: Thanks!] It's true I haven't actually heard him say it in words that imply it was a bad album artistically speaking.. he keeps talking about other issues. (Like that whole thing about "just jokey shit that you listen to once and then the joke is over" which is balderdash)

[MikeNUFC]

Relapse was the first album since his comeback. Therefore it's his comeback album.

Just cus you think Recovery is better it doesnt mean it's his comeback album lol

That's like saying, "I think MMLP is a better album that SSLP; therefore MMLP is his true debut album"

[buffalo bill]

Well, I think everyone is aware that Relapse was literally his comeback.

But if Relapse had been like Encore or worse, and Recovery like SSLP, MMLP or TES or better, I would definitely have been ready to agree in calling Recovery his "real" comeback. It's just a way to express a point.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Well, many people don't realize that Relapse was a concept album, not just a bunch of random songs about Shady killing people. Relapse was great, but Recovery is greater. All they see on that album is just accents, which I had no qualms with, really. They were kinda funny. But the lyricism was insane, lyrically I think Relapse is far ahead of it's time

Recovery, I think we get all sides of Em though, not just Shady or Em or Marshall. Which is what I would prefer him to do

[Kez]

Well, many people don't realize that Relapse was a concept album, not just a bunch of random songs about Shady killing people.

C'mon son, everyone "realises" it's a concept album, we aren't stupid; they just didn't want to hear that shit after waiting 4 and a half years for him to come back with an album.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Relapse was the first album since his comeback. Therefore it's his comeback album.

Just cus you think Recovery is better it doesnt mean it's his comeback album lol

That's like saying, "I think MMLP is a better album that SSLP; therefore MMLP is his true debut album"

I know this, but a lot of people don't look at it that way. I think Relapse is a good comeback album, but Recovery...he really made the right album for himself at this point in his life. Recovery WAS gonna be Relapse 2, which would have also been counted as a comeback album probably, since the albums were in pairs. But instead he released Recovery, which I still see as being a part of his comeback. He relapsed, the recovered. As different as they may seem, I still view them kinda together. They're both comebacks, to me

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Well, many people don't realize that Relapse was a concept album, not just a bunch of random songs about Shady killing people.

C'mon son, everyone "realises" it's a concept album, we aren't stupid; they just didn't want to hear that shit after waiting 4 and a half years for him to come back with an album.

WE do, but casual fans or listeners don't know that. For example, some of my friends like Relapse a lot better than Recovery, they don't like that he "went all serious and shit", even though neither one of them have listened to Recovery, in full, only a few songs like NA and LTWYL (they like On Fire though). But, they don't know what Relapse is REALLY about, even though they like the shit. A lot of people who felt turned off by the album can't see that he created this album for a reason, not just for the sake of making more music

[Kez]

WE do, but casual fans or listeners don't know that. For example, some of my friends like Relapse a lot better than Recovery, they don't like that he "went all serious and shit", even though neither one of them have listened to Recovery, in full, only a few songs like NA and LTWYL (they like On Fire though). But, they don't know what Relapse is REALLY about, even though they like the shit. A lot of people who felt turned off by the album can't see that he created this album for a reason, not just for the sake of making more music

Oh yeah i see what you mean, idiots like that are the reason he made Love The Way You Lie and Not Afraid in the first place lol.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

WE do, but casual fans or listeners don't know that. For example, some of my friends like Relapse a lot better than Recovery, they don't like that he "went all serious and shit", even though neither one of them have listened to Recovery, in full, only a few songs like NA and LTWYL (they like On Fire though). But, they don't know what Relapse is REALLY about, even though they like the shit. A lot of people who felt turned off by the album can't see that he created this album for a reason, not just for the sake of making more music

Oh yeah i see what you mean, idiots like that are the reason he made Love The Way You Lie and Not Afraid in the first place lol.

I like both those songs, but they are the songs I listen to the least on Recovery

[buffalo bill]

Love The Way You Lie is a great song, even though not as good as the best stuff on Relapse. I'm very glad he made that one.

Not Afraid is embarrassing and should be forgotten.

[nathan123]

Love The Way You Lie is a great song, even though not as good as the best stuff on Relapse. I'm very glad he made that one.

Not Afraid is embarrassing and should be forgotten.

he has the right to be corny now and again!

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Love The Way You Lie is a great song, even though not as good as the best stuff on Relapse. I'm very glad he made that one.

Not Afraid is embarrassing and should be forgotten.

he has the right to be corny now and again!

Not Afraid isn't that bad at all, in my opinon. The lines about Relapse though, should have been left out. The whole "That last Relapse cd was 'ehhh'" line was very lazy to me

[buffalo bill]

Love The Way You Lie is a great song, even though not as good as the best stuff on Relapse. I'm very glad he made that one.

Not Afraid is embarrassing and should be forgotten.

he has the right to be corny now and again!

Yes, he has, but Not Afraid is just not a good song. The lyrics are terrible, not just because of corniness, but because of the extremely lousy and misplaced puns, etc.

Beautiful is OK.

[MikeNUFC]

^Not Afraid is better than Beautiful and I HATE Not Afraid.