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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby EminemBase » Aug 29th, '10, 22:49

classthe_king wrote:When you brought up the second part about the lyrics you made it relevent


No I didn't.

Because you are taking the comparison way too literally in terms of, the subjects involved. Whether Nicki is 1% lyrically what Eminem is or not is not relevant at all to the comparison.

Because the point being made is that people are not even hearing her lyrics due to the fact they're automatically dismissing her because they hate her voice.

Now that in no way puts into question the quality of the lyrics, that's a separate debate and it certainly does not compare her lyrics to Eminem's lyrics. The comparison is in the upshot of the action. The upshot of dismissing somebody on an arbitrary annoyance, and that upshot can apply to anybody.

But the reason it's relevant with Nicki Minaj is there are a lot more people on average who are dismissing her just because of her voice, than most other rappers. Just like there were with Eminem. But that in no way compares or questions the quality of either's lyrics. That's a different argument.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby dR3 » Aug 29th, '10, 23:09

Classic Kanye beat. I like the song as a whole, fuck Ross and Minaj though.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby DrRapid » Aug 30th, '10, 10:37

I really like this song now somehow but I'd still take Nicki out just like I'd take Lil Wayne out, their voices have always bothered me. I've got used to Wayne's a bit more now though cause of some features that he always seems to be in.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby MikeNUFC » Sep 2nd, '10, 11:20

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kamilniewulis wrote:lol at the nikki hate, she's fucking sick stfu

No, she sucks.

Can someone tell me how she is any good?

You can't. She's fucking terrible.

Kanye says Nikki could be the 2nd best rapper alive behind Em and stuff. Proves he's a fucking idiot (I like Kanye's old music, but he's a complete dick head).

When you have Nas, Raekwon and Black Thought (among others) still making music, saying that is an insult to them. And that's just the ones still making music.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby ThomasJ » Sep 2nd, '10, 11:38

MikeNUFC wrote:
Amadeo wrote:
kamilniewulis wrote:lol at the nikki hate, she's fucking sick stfu

No, she sucks.

Can someone tell me how she is any good?

You can't. She's fucking terrible.

Kanye says Nikki could be the 2nd best rapper alive behind Em and stuff. Proves he's a fucking idiot (I like Kanye's old music, but he's a complete dick head).

When you have Nas, Raekwon and Black Thought (among others) still making music, saying that is an insult to them. And that's just the ones still making music.

Raekwon did a song with Justin Bieber. :n:
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby MikeNUFC » Sep 2nd, '10, 11:42

^So what?

There's no difference between working with Beiber, than working with some R & B singer.

I didn't think he was right for the song, personally, but I'm not gunna hate on Raekwon for it. He's a grown fucking man, can do what he wants/work with who he wants. His verses were tight, I don't mind the song.

People love to overexaggerate when it comes to Beiber - I hate his music but he's a just a fucking kid at the end of the day.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby ThomasJ » Sep 2nd, '10, 11:47

That's not the point...
The point is,how do you go from OB4CL to that?
I just hope he doesn't go all pop on us...
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby DrRapid » Sep 2nd, '10, 12:01

I don't see anything wrong in trying to do something different instead od sticking to his Mafioso style.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Sep 2nd, '10, 12:10

TJthaGreat wrote:That's not the point...
The point is,how do you go from OB4CL to that?
I just hope he doesn't go all pop on us...


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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby Almostlity » Sep 2nd, '10, 12:15

I can't see anything pop-related in that song besides JB.. Raes verses were pure RAP, not Pop. C'mon sons.. kanye even sampled Wu-tang. Ya'll some close-minded dummies.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby KillahBee » Sep 2nd, '10, 17:27

Almostlity wrote:I can't see anything pop-related in that song besides JB.. Raes verses were pure RAP, not Pop. C'mon sons.. kanye even sampled Wu-tang. Ya'll some close-minded dummies.

Exactly man, thats what I find funny about that Rae/Bieber track - Raekwon rips it, Kanye flips probably the grimiest beat ever (Wu Tang Aint Nothing To Fuck Wit) on a track that has a hook sung by Bieber, shit is hilarious to me!
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby classthe_king » Sep 2nd, '10, 22:26

Him doing a song with Justin Bieber made me lose respect for him, big time.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby DrRapid » Sep 2nd, '10, 22:36

classthe_king wrote:Him doing a song with Justin Bieber made me lose respect for him, big time.

It's a bit like Common with the Jonas Brothers, but I just ignore that bullshit. As long as the JB track isn't everywhere on the radio/billboard and stuff I'm cool with it if you know what I mean.
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Re: Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

Postby classthe_king » Sep 2nd, '10, 22:37

DrRapid wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Him doing a song with Justin Bieber made me lose respect for him, big time.

It's a bit like Common with the Jonas Brothers, but I just ignore that bullshit. As long as the JB track isn't everywhere on the radio/billboard and stuff I'm cool with it if you know what I mean.


I don't care about the Jonas brothers as much but you don't understand my hatred for Justin Bieber. Raekwon doing this track makes him look like the biggest bitch ever.
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