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50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby stillmatic » Sep 4th, '10, 07:06

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That is huge. YN said it best - 'to be a fly on the wall for that convo'.

Fif said this about.

"We got a chance to kick it for a minute," 50 said. "I know people were interested in what that conversation was like. But they can ask Jay-Z. I take people's actions as if it's genuinely how they feel. I can only use what I saw you do as if that's what you meant. I can't understand what your motivation was prior to that."

It does look like a positive pic, but you can tell both are holding back.

There's no doubt this is a case of friendly competition (that they did for 10 years) gone a little wrong after Jay made the comments at the AMA's.
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby ThomasJ » Sep 4th, '10, 07:13

This is for real?
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby nathan123 » Sep 4th, '10, 12:56

^^ what did jay z say at the AMA's ?
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby Almostlity » Sep 4th, '10, 12:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwxIobtab4


Jay sold +400k and 50 sold just over 150(?)
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby Weather Man » Sep 5th, '10, 04:10

Cool Pic.
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby stillmatic » Sep 5th, '10, 04:44

Almostlity wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwxIobtab4


Jay sold +400k and 50 sold just over 150(?)


Jay's album somehow leaked only 8 days before it's release whereas 50's leaked 33 days before it was released.

As much as I like Jay, and I think he's a better rapper than 50 Cent and is already an established immortal, Jay didn't help himself with those comments considering he was the one who went at 50 first. Not to mention that 50 Cent sold in 44 million WW in 6 years whereas Jay sold 37 in 15 years....so if numbers don't lie, then 50 walks over Jay.
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby EminemBase » Sep 5th, '10, 06:22

stillmatic wrote:
Almostlity wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwxIobtab4


Jay sold +400k and 50 sold just over 150(?)


Jay's album somehow leaked only 8 days before it's release whereas 50's leaked 33 days before it was released.

As much as I like Jay, and I think he's a better rapper than 50 Cent and is already an established immortal, Jay didn't help himself with those comments considering he was the one who went at 50 first. Not to mention that 50 Cent sold in 44 million WW in 6 years whereas Jay sold 37 in 15 years....so if numbers don't lie, then 50 walks over Jay.


That leaking excuse is bullshit. 50 himself said, before it leaked that leaking was a good thing and would only help his sales as people could 'preview' the material. THEN after it leaks and he sells fuck all he BLAMED the sales flop ON the leaks, lmfao. Guy is a clown, forgets what he says one week to the next.

If an album is BRILLIANT regardless, then people will want to own it and therefore buy it. Eminem sold like 600k + of Relapse and it leaked like 2 weeks early. Yes I know it was his comeback, but point is - If you provide a solid album that fans appreciate, they'll want to own it hands down. Leaking AFFECTS it to a degree, but if the material is golden, not so much.

50 sold fuck all because his album had a few good tracks and a lot of shit ones. So people heard it, after all his nonsense hype talk saying it would change the game etc. (LMFAO) and just thought "what a load of trash". He also talked himself down in sales by guaranteeing it would do 1 million first week etc. People get tired of the arrogance / if it's not justified.
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby stillmatic » Sep 5th, '10, 06:49

EminemBase wrote:
That leaking excuse is bullshit. 50 himself said, before it leaked that leaking was a good thing and would only help his sales as people could 'preview' the material. THEN after it leaks and he sells fuck all he BLAMED the sales flop ON the leaks, lmfao. Guy is a clown, forgets what he says one week to the next.

If an album is BRILLIANT regardless, then people will want to own it and therefore buy it. Eminem sold like 600k + of Relapse and it leaked like 2 weeks early. Yes I know it was his comeback, but point is - If you provide a solid album that fans appreciate, they'll want to own it hands down. Leaking AFFECTS it to a degree, but if the material is golden, not so much.

50 sold fuck all because his album had a few good tracks and a lot of shit ones. So people heard it, after all his nonsense hype talk saying it would change the game etc. (LMFAO) and just thought "what a load of trash". He also talked himself down in sales by guaranteeing it would do 1 million first week etc. People get tired of the arrogance / if it's not justified.


You have a lot of hate in your heart, settle kettle.

There is excuse for the leak, it's a known fact in business or the music industry. If you genuinely believe 50 Cent saying that it was a good preview, then you're struggling. Of course an artist is going to say that, that's the only thing they can say in a situation like that. What you expect him to write it off and whinge about it leaking and it not being fair? That would lead to questions being asked that no one would want to answer at Interscope or G Unit Records. I don't understand why you put "THEN" in capitals either, that makes no sense.

The comparison of Relapse to BISD is hilarious. Are you serious? There is a HUGE difference between a 2 week leak and a 33 day leak (more than 1 month). The 2 week leak is expected, it's almost a precedent for labels to prepare for a 2 week leak now, the 4 week+ leak was completely unexpected and threw 50 Cent's project under the bus, there is no turning back from that. Whether the record is brilliant or crap, 50 Cent has a huge audience outside of his core that would have bought it. The fact that they were able to get it 1 month before it's release left them too much time for them not to care when it was eventually released in retail stores.

Excluding the leak (which was more than 50% of the problem) 50 Cent's album didn't sell much because it was clearly directed at his core audience, there wasn't many radio friendly singles and because it leaked completely early. The fact that 50 Cent had to record music videos simply for the internet signifies how much of a core audience album it was, sort of like Relapse was to Eminem. 50 Cent obviously believed his core audience deserved it, especially after the heavy praise he received for the mixtapes he released last year, and it meant to him that his fans wanted more of that. The leak ruined any chance of anyone outside his core audience buying it.

I'm not even a big 50 Cent fan, but some of the logic in your post is completely wrong. Ask any businessman, any artist and whether a 33 day leak would destroy their product and they'll loudly answer yes.
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Re: 50 Cent and Jay-Z pic

Postby DrRapid » Sep 5th, '10, 18:15

^Well said :y: I prefer BISD over Blueprint 3, I don't think Relapse was any better either.
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