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abortoin banned in ohio (dont fight in this topic pleez!!!!)

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do u think abortoin is right?

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no
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undecided
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Postby Nick419 » Mar 8th, '06, 22:08

in ohio? :confusion: i live in ohio and i didnt even know this! lol :laughing:
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Postby Ivy » Mar 8th, '06, 22:09

eminemfan419 wrote:in ohio? :confusion: i live in ohio and i didnt even know this! lol :laughing:


Well now you know...how could you not know...something like this has got to be all over the news and there has got to be discussions in classrooms and shit or among students and teachers... :zipped: :unsure: :flower:
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Postby Nick419 » Mar 8th, '06, 22:19

TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:
eminemfan419 wrote:in ohio? :confusion: i live in ohio and i didnt even know this! lol :laughing:


Well now you know...how could you not know...something like this has got to be all over the news and there has got to be discussions in classrooms and shit or among students and teachers... :zipped: :unsure: :flower:
ok 1. any student in my whole school could give a shit less about abortion and 2. i never seen this on the news and i watch most of it every morning to see if we have delays.
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Postby Ivy » Mar 8th, '06, 22:21

eminemfan419 wrote:
TaylorakaTiGGi wrote:
eminemfan419 wrote:in ohio? :confusion: i live in ohio and i didnt even know this! lol :laughing:


Well now you know...how could you not know...something like this has got to be all over the news and there has got to be discussions in classrooms and shit or among students and teachers... :zipped: :unsure: :flower:
ok 1. any student in my whole school could give a shit less about abortion and 2. i never seen this on the news and i watch most of it every morning to see if we have delays.



Sorry...I was just wondering... :'(
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Postby > Evil _ MoNkEy < » Mar 9th, '06, 00:42

AspirinE wrote:
yoshi wrote:It's right as long as women do it when there are some serious health complications under some special circumstances.. But decision should be made by court or doctor..



Fuck the court, and the doctor, its the womans decision.


HELL YES!..... thats wat im sayin... no one else should be able to choose but her :worship: Fuck the government!
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Postby ines » Mar 9th, '06, 08:38

abortion is not good, in fact all the ones that does that, they must get to court and get a hugh bill to pay.everybody knows that when you have un protected sex the change is big that you became pregnant.
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 08:53

Sarah wrote:
HELL YES!..... thats wat im sayin... no one else should be able to choose but her :worship: Fuck the government![/size][/color]

That's how I see it sometimes. But sometimes it's bad like when the women get's a abortion when it's her fault for getting pregnat and not taking notice of the risk she was taking when she had unprotected sex. So really....sometimes it's the womens fault and I don't believe abortion should be allowed in that matter. But if it was an accident then I think it should be allowed. But like I said earlier....only at the very beginning of a pregnancy[/quote]

well the woman could have not had sex and and not gotten pregnant wich means in that the foetus wouldnt develope anyway...

Guns kill more people than abortion kills foetuses, why dont we just ban guns then?
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Postby guess whos back... » Mar 9th, '06, 12:08

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Postby yoshi » Mar 9th, '06, 20:47

AspirinE wrote:
yoshi wrote:It's right as long as women do it when there are some serious health complications under some special circumstances.. But decision should be made by court or doctor..



Fuck the court, and the doctor, its the womans decision.

A foetus just shouldnt be considered a developed body. A single sperm can too be one day a grown baby, but the moment i just to put that rubber on, i kill about millions of sperms that tried to survive and one that had high potential of survivng.


Although it's not developed baby, it's fucked up if the woman says one day 'you know what, i wanna do abortion' - sick. If she didn't want baby, she should think before having sex and use her brain instead of.. whatever. :p

I just think abortion ain't just for fun - it may save woman's life one day..
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 20:51

yoshi wrote:
AspirinE wrote:
yoshi wrote:It's right as long as women do it when there are some serious health complications under some special circumstances.. But decision should be made by court or doctor..



Fuck the court, and the doctor, its the womans decision.

A foetus just shouldnt be considered a developed body. A single sperm can too be one day a grown baby, but the moment i just to put that rubber on, i kill about millions of sperms that tried to survive and one that had high potential of survivng.


Although it's not developed baby, it's fucked up if the woman says one day 'you know what, i wanna do abortion' - sick. If she didn't want baby, she should think before having sex and use her brain instead of.. whatever. :p

I just think abortion ain't just for fun - it may save woman's life one day..


so wearing a condom makes u less of a "potential baby" killer, i relly see them as too same things, one is a more severe case.

IF u say people shouldnt fuck if they dont want kids then condoms and pills should be banned..


Just my opinion... though.
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Postby yoshi » Mar 9th, '06, 20:57

^ I didn't say ppl shouldn't fuck :p

The only thing I want people to do is just a lil bit of thinking before every action. Nothing else.

Condoms and pills exist to prevent such situations. Plus I don't say it's killing anyone, BUT being a potential killer isn't the same as being killer, is it?..

Just my opinion.. :happy: :p
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 21:13

yoshi wrote:^ I didn't say ppl shouldn't fuck :p

The only thing I want people to do is just a lil bit of thinking before every action. Nothing else.

Condoms and pills exist to prevent such situations. Plus I don't say it's killing anyone, BUT being a potential killer isn't the same as being killer, is it?..

Just my opinion.. :happy: :p



So wat makes a foetus an alive human being
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Theres a certain point in a foetuses developement when first brain activity starts, but even then it doesnt have a conscience... its just developing its main surviving functions.

If we can declaire a person being dead, coz he has no brain activity, then till somepoint the baby is too dead... U might say "but it will be someday" - it was up to the mother to make it and carry it, and its not technically alive till somepoint (its the same as choosing to fuck or not to fuck, thats wat im trying to say). I for one would care less, if i was aborted at that moment or even at 9 months.

It depends on how u define life, and what makes it worth..


Say my opinion is inhumane, and immoral, have any of u thought of wat would happen if abortion was completely banned?

Not only will population rise greatly, but there is gonna be more broke mothers with 3-4 babies hungry, trying to survive. logically its a stupid thing to do.
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Postby yoshi » Mar 9th, '06, 21:21

Your opinion ain't inhumane, I get it. And what I'm tryin to say it's not to treat life [or some form of life] like it was something worthless.. I never said it should be banned - it should be done under some circumstances.. And not just because the man forgot to put condom on..
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Postby Ivy » Mar 9th, '06, 22:26

Attention please...Abortion in Ohio is LEGAL...it wasn't banned...I'll say it again...ABORTION IN OHIO IS LEGAL...however, South Dakota is trying to cause abortion to be illegal...and will do so accordingly...If abortion becomes illegal in South Dakota, it will be going agaisnt the Supreme Court's decision in the ruling of Roe vs. Wade, so the US Supreme Court will have no choice but to open the case back up and make another decision in which will determine if abortion will still be legal or if abortion will become illegal. Why is South Dakota trying to puch abortion to be illegal? Because there are 9 Supreme Judges that decide whether something becomes a law or not, 2 have retired in the past year and Bush has assigned 2 "new" Judges. This could change the fate of abortion and humanity as we know it.


To Sarah and for all others who would like to know
Sarah asked me what my personal reasons were in why I was agaisn't abortion, here it is...My mother tried several times to become impregenated, and finally she achieved her wish...however, after 5 months of pregnancy, and waiting to see if I were going to be male or female, the date arrived...she soon found out of what the doctor's thought, that I was going to be male(military doctors, that says enough)...and she went frantic, she didn't want a male, she wanted a female...so she went to an abortion clinic soon after and made a date of when she was going to abort the fetus...however, my father thought otherwise...I was his child, he should have a say in it...my dad went to Military Court, and fought the case, pushing the abortion date back until the Court made a ruling...the court decided that the decision of abortion should be joint between my mother and father...I wasn't aborted as you can see...4 months later when I was born, I was a female...my mom was shocked...however, I never was treated as I should've been by my mother...I was my father's pride and joy...today I've found out by studying the history on my mother's side of the family...that all mother's on my mom's side of the family have never gotten along with their daughters...and my mother wanted to prove to her mother that she could get along with her daughter...bullshit...we still haven't gotten along to this day...and the Federal Court of the United States has stated that my mother is an unfit parent, so I will never be allowed to have the chance of living with her, so I live with my father...

That is why I feel so personal about abortion, if it weren't for my father and his eternal strenghts and for him seeking justice, my mother would have killed me all because of my sex...that's why I'm agaisn't it...
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Postby AspirinE » Mar 9th, '06, 23:21

Clarky '05 wrote:Just done this in R.S a couple months back, i think that abortion is OK in some circumstances like rape or accidentally having a child.....but getting drunk at a party one night and sleeping with a random guy unprotected [-X It's your own fault


tell me that after next x-mas... lol
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