Eminem's voice is back to full-blown "pills" sound

[EM-DZ]

Eminem need work with Royce and Dr.Dre beat
with real rapper not gay ass lil gayne

[EminemInsider]

omfg u guys r rly annoyin
no wonder Em dnt go on the net he dnt wana deal wit jackasses like u
i bet if tr was arnd in 99 u wud complain abt his nasial high pitch voice
then MMLP coms out u wud say y is he shoutin in TWIA i want him 2 be nasial
jus stfu & be hapy u gettn gr8 new music

No. Eminem's REAL fans loved his old work.

are you trying to say that if someone didn't like his old work but like his new ones then they're qualified as "fake fans"?

No, what I'm saying is those people aren't fans of Eminem. The "Eminem" they like isn't the real him.

It would be like saying you're a Michael Jordan fan but think he sucked with the Bulls.

[Alaine]

^ there's no such thing as the "real" Eminem, it's all him, 10 years ago or today, who are you to say what makes the real him?
I guess as a fan who grew up with him since the slim shady years, it's hard for some people to deal with his changes. But to me who just become fan for a year and had a chance to look at his career from top to bottom, I see the changes in him progress very normal & natural.
btw, if someone become his fans because he's popular & everyone loves him then that's fake fan, but if they like him because of his materials how could they be fake? What sounds good to your ears may not sound good to others and the opposite. I myself think he was godly in his first two albums and right now he is not as good as in 99-00 but I don't find it blasphemy if some people say Recovery, TES or Encore is his best album & they're fake fans for saying that, it's what their ears tell them and they're just honest about their opinions.

[GenePeer]

He's voice is far from being damaged. Remember him performing "Renegade"? or "Stan"? He pulled it of quite well, he just chooses to shout these days. Oh well, I'll have to wait a couple of years and he'll have changed once again, in the meanwhile, I'll be listening to other great rappers.

[BigBangBazinga]

This BS will continue when his next album drops, after the album has dropped, when the next album after that drops and after THAT album has dropped. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST!

[xxTrigger1989xx]

omfg u guys r rly annoyin
no wonder Em dnt go on the net he dnt wana deal wit jackasses like u
i bet if tr was arnd in 99 u wud complain abt his nasial high pitch voice
then MMLP coms out u wud say y is he shoutin in TWIA i want him 2 be nasial
jus stfu & be hapy u gettn gr8 new music

No. Eminem's REAL fans loved his old work.

That's such an ignorant statement
I love pretty much all his work except Encore. So I'm a fake fan for liking Recovery more than SSLP (I personally do. SSLP is good, but his voice on there was not for me)? Get the fuck out of here. People will like what they like, it's what their ears tell them. My ears tell me that TES is a better album, as a whole (IMO) than MMLP, but MMLP has better lyrics and emotion

Even if someone says Encore is their favorite album, it's not right to dismiss their opinion because they like Encore better than his first three albums. Fuck that

[Bistnal]

^But opinions can be wrong you know..if someone with supposedly superior knowledge and opinions tells you that your opinion is wrong and you're not a true fan for having a different taste then them, they have to be right lmao

[xxTrigger1989xx]

^But opinions can be wrong you know..if someone with supposedly superior knowledge and opinions tells you that your opinion is wrong and you're not a true fan for having a different taste then them, they have to be right lmao

Opinions can never be wrong. That's why they're opinions. They may not be GOOD opinions, but that doesn't make it really wrong...

[M-Pyre]

I agree 100% with you. I hate the fact that he shouts all the time when he raps now. And that forced/restrained almost moany delivery isn't making it any better.

I was actually listening to "Never enough", "No apologies", "Public Enemy #1", "Ricky Tic Toc" etc.....I appreciate those songs now more so than ever. "25 to life" is almost unlistenable to me now. Just being honest? What the fuck's happening Em? The sad thing is I KNOW he's able to rap....normally as it were...remember that Eminem, Royce & Denaun Westwood freestyle? Yeah. THAT'S the rapper we all want.

25 To Life will NEVER be unlistenable. The shouting on that song was executed wonderfully, it was proper for the song. Plus, lyrically 25 To Life is

uhhum, it's not that great. far from it to be honest.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I agree 100% with you. I hate the fact that he shouts all the time when he raps now. And that forced/restrained almost moany delivery isn't making it any better.

I was actually listening to "Never enough", "No apologies", "Public Enemy #1", "Ricky Tic Toc" etc.....I appreciate those songs now more so than ever. "25 to life" is almost unlistenable to me now. Just being honest? What the fuck's happening Em? The sad thing is I KNOW he's able to rap....normally as it were...remember that Eminem, Royce & Denaun Westwood freestyle? Yeah. THAT'S the rapper we all want.

25 To Life will NEVER be unlistenable. The shouting on that song was executed wonderfully, it was proper for the song. Plus, lyrically 25 To Life is

uhhum, it's not that great. far from it to be honest.

Yes it is, a good song doesn't have to have a million multis in it. The lyrics were good, it's one of the more underrated tracks on Recovery

You can like what you like, but you cannot say that it's a bad song, because it's not

[EminemInsider]

^ there's no such thing as the "real" Eminem, it's all him, 10 years ago or today, who are you to say what makes the real him?
I guess as a fan who grew up with him since the slim shady years, it's hard for some people to deal with his changes. But to me who just become fan for a year and had a chance to look at his career from top to bottom, I see the changes in him progress very normal & natural.
btw, if someone become his fans because he's popular & everyone loves him then that's fake fan, but if they like him because of his materials how could they be fake? What sounds good to your ears may not sound good to others and the opposite. I myself think he was godly in his first two albums and right now he is not as good as in 99-00 but I don't find it blasphemy if some people say Recovery, TES or Encore is his best album & they're fake fans for saying that, it's what their ears tell them and they're just honest about their opinions.

If Eminem had never gone into a pill-induced coma, do you think he ever would've made any of the music he's made the last 8 years...during OR after the pill popping?

There's your answer right there. There's a reason for the expression, "this is your brain...this is your brain on drugs."

There's nothing "normal and natural" about his career progression.

[EminemInsider]

omfg u guys r rly annoyin
no wonder Em dnt go on the net he dnt wana deal wit jackasses like u
i bet if tr was arnd in 99 u wud complain abt his nasial high pitch voice
then MMLP coms out u wud say y is he shoutin in TWIA i want him 2 be nasial
jus stfu & be hapy u gettn gr8 new music

No. Eminem's REAL fans loved his old work.

That's such an ignorant statement
I love pretty much all his work except Encore. So I'm a fake fan for liking Recovery more than SSLP (I personally do. SSLP is good, but his voice on there was not for me)? Get the fuck out of here. People will like what they like, it's what their ears tell them. My ears tell me that TES is a better album, as a whole (IMO) than MMLP, but MMLP has better lyrics and emotion

Even if someone says Encore is their favorite album, it's not right to dismiss their opinion because they like Encore better than his first three albums. Fuck that

You're the one using the term "fake fan." I'm saying you're a more of a fan of someone OTHER than the REAL Eminem if you don't prefer his earlier work...because that's what the unadulterated version of himself was all about.

[Mxracer6y]

If Eminem had never gone into a pill-induced coma, do you think he ever would've made any of the music he's made the last 8 years...during OR after the pill popping?

There's your answer right there. There's a reason for the expression, "this is your brain...this is your brain on drugs."

There's nothing "normal and natural" about his career progression.

Please don't speak on pills and their effects on a user unless you've been there and done that. One whose never done drugs should not speak about or claim to know how pills affected someone. If you've never done something, how can you have a theory on what it is like? Also keep in mind its never the exact same for everyone either.

The answer is simple. You can't. You can only go by what you've read about or heard about from someone, usually a third party. How do you know they're right? You can always take someones word for it, and they might give you a very accurate description, but that still does no justice. Thats all it is, is a description. Then its up to your imagination to try and piece together what you know to form a conclusion.

How many times has someone described or told you about something, and you had something pictured in your mind, on how you it would look. But then when you got there, or saw it for the first time it was NOTHING like what you pictured? Too many to count? Just about 100% of time?

Well thats EXACTLY what it is like for drugs/pills, and any other substance. You people are coming up with all these loony explanations and excuses for what and why he did what he did, and I'd bet 98% of you have never even seen a pill other than tylenol. I'd bet something like 60% of you have never even smoked pot.

[EminemInsider]

Please don't speak on pills and their effects on a user unless you've been there and done that. One whose never done drugs should not speak about or claim to know how pills affected someone. If you've never done something, how can you have a theory on what it is like? Also keep in mind its never the exact same for everyone either.

I'm not basing it on what I think, I'm basing it on what Eminem has said.

Quotes like, "I lost 5 years of my life to Ambien" and "My brain was clouded...everything about me was just...slow" are pretty telling.

The answer is simple. You can't. You can only go by what you've read about or heard about from someone, usually a third party. How do you know they're right? You can always take someones word for it, and they might give you a very accurate description, but that still does no justice. Thats all it is, is a description. Then its up to your imagination to try and piece together what you know to form a conclusion.

Blah blah blah.

Eminem was popping pills to the point of being 2 hours away from dying and he says they completely fucked up his life and his music. What more needs to be said? Is he LYING about that?

How many times has someone described or told you about something, and you had something pictured in your mind, on how you it would look. But then when you got there, or saw it for the first time it was NOTHING like what you pictured? Too many to count? Just about 100% of time?

Occasionally. Not anywhere near "100% of the time." When someone tells you about what something was like for THEM, they're probably telling you a pretty good description.

Well thats EXACTLY what it is like for drugs/pills, and any other substance. You people are coming up with all these loony explanations and excuses for what and why he did what he did, and I'd bet 98% of you have never even seen a pill other than tylenol. I'd bet something like 60% of you have never even smoked pot.

Eminem says you're wrong. That's pretty much the end of this discussion.

And his music doesn't lie. People who don't have their heads so far up their ass they don't know which way is up were aware there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with him after hearing Encore for the very first time.

[Mxracer6y]

Please don't speak on pills and their effects on a user unless you've been there and done that. One whose never done drugs should not speak about or claim to know how pills affected someone. If you've never done something, how can you have a theory on what it is like? Also keep in mind its never the exact same for everyone either.

I'm not basing it on what I think, I'm basing it on what Eminem has said.

Quotes like, "I lost 5 years of my life to Ambien" and "My brain was clouded...everything about me was just...slow" are pretty telling.

Blah blah blah.

Eminem was popping pills to the point of being 2 hours away from dying and he says they completely fucked up his life and his music. What more needs to be said? Is he LYING about that?

Occasionally. Not anywhere near "100% of the time." When someone tells you about what something was like for THEM, they're probably telling you a pretty good description.


Eminem says you're wrong. That's pretty much the end of this discussion.

And his music doesn't lie. People who don't have their heads so far up their ass they don't know which way is up were aware there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with him after hearing Encore for the very first time.

The thing you dont understand is people make up excuses. I'm sure the pills played a part in his downfall in the recent years, no where near 100%. In fact, the pills came as a result of other shit that was going on in his life. He turned to pills to deal with his problems. Not the other way around.

But at the same time the pills caused even more problems. Its a vicious cycle, the pills continue to bring you down while you think otherwise. He'd also been on pills and other drugs during the time of MMLP and TES and other shit. He just wasnt ABUSING them near as bad or as frequently. THATS where things went bad.

When you continually hear people say negative things about you, its easy to come up with a reason why or an excuse. Its much easier to blame the pills than to blame himself.

Coming from someone who has tried just about every type of drug(except for the hard shit, ie. heroine.. pcp.. etc) I've eaten all types of pills.. sniffed them... the whole works. I can sit here and tell you that theres no fucking way em can sit there and blame pills for 100% of his problems. Sometimes substances bring out the REAL you... the you that you wouldn't let anyone know existed otherwise. You stop giving a shit about what people have to say or think about you, nothing is important anymore.

I'm not basing it on what I think, I'm basing it on what Eminem has said.

That's exactly my point. You basing all your information from a third person perspective. How could you possibly think that is accurate information? Just because he SAID it, doesn't mean you can take that for 100% factual information. You can only get an IDEA of what it MAY have been like. Like peaking through a window. Someone could hand you a box and tell you the holy grail is inside. You could take his word for it... but unless youve opened the box and looked for yourself, how do you know for sure? Someone could give you a cup of coffee and tell you its very hot........ anyway, you get the idea.