Eminem's voice is back to full-blown "pills" sound

[Berry]

I think we should have let Em take his natural course with Relapse, Relapse 2..

He would have realized it was redundant on his own and he would keep the same style rapping and just not use the accents.. I personally think us steering him towards Recovery changed everything..

If you think about it.. Relapse has an Eminem feel to it, it's him doing himself.. It's concept songs and nice flow.

Then we complained about it... We should have known Em was smart enough to change his sound every album like he naturally does.. Relapse 2 wouldn't have had accents.. it would have had its own signature sound..

Now we have got it in his head and he is self conscious so he is not doing himself anymore.. He is trying to please us.. when we never should have been complaining in the first place.

Boom baby!

[xxTrigger1989xx]

You can like what you like, but you cannot say that it's a bad song, because it's not

Did you really spend about 5 posts saying how you should accept someone's opinion then write you "cannot say 25 To Life is a bad song"? Why cant YOU accept their opinion that it's a bad song?

25 To Life is so overrated on these boards its ridiculous. I was fooled into thinking it was an amazing song on first few listens then I really took of my 'Excited About Recovery Leak' glasses and saw it was nothing special.

His rhyming is not amazing as you seem to think. Just because you think he "has multies throughout" doesnt mean the rhyming is any good - in fact it doesnt have even have multies throughout - "stayed/paid", "step/breath/depth/left/wept/set", "laugh/half", "snap/rap/that" among quite a few other monosyllabic rhymes - the second verse is full of them.

The only good multie on the whole song is "sacrifices that I made/acted right I would have stayed" which is impressive. I suppose "heard you yet/deserve respect/perfectness" is nice as well. It goes downhill from there though - the rest of the multies are relatively simple.

There's no real storytelling in the song (to the person who said that) and the concept is one of the most played-out in hip-hop.





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That argument on page 5 =

Saying something is bad just because you don't like it, THAT'S what I'm not for. You misunderstand me. I don't go out of my way to say songs are bad, I don't remember it if I did before. I don't like Almost Famous, for instance, but it's not at all a bad song. It's just not for me

[Kez]

Be careful what you wish for, 'cause you just might get it - Eminem

See, he warned us on Relapse bonus tracks.

Again, if you seriously believe Eminem has started being way too agressive on most of his songs just because that's what people said they wanted, then you must think Eminem's a serious pussy.

[MikeNUFC]

Saying something is bad just because you don't like it, THAT'S what I'm not for. You misunderstand me. I don't go out of my way to say songs are bad, I don't remember it if I did before. I don't like Almost Famous, for instance, but it's not at all a bad song. It's just not for me

So we can't say Encore is bad? We cant say Fack is bad? We cant say Just Lose It is bad?

We cant say anything is bad even if we think it is?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. The whole "respect someones opinion" and "opinion cant be wrong" is going wayyyyy too far

[JotaMF]

:facepalm

Again, if you seriously believe Eminem has started being way too agressive on most of his songs just because that's what people said they wanted, then you must think Eminem's a serious pussy.

why not? he clearly cares about what his fans think about his music, and we all know how everyone bitched about the accent.... so Em droped it

[JotaMF]

So we can't say Encore is bad? We cant say Fack is bad? We cant say Just Lose It is bad?

We cant say anything is bad even if we think it is?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. The whole "respect someones opinion" and "opinion cant be wrong" is going wayyyyy too far

thats not what he said. he said dont mix not liking something with something being bad. example: i kinda dig My First Single, its funny, but i recognize that shit is wack

[DBek23]

Saying something is bad just because you don't like it, THAT'S what I'm not for. You misunderstand me. I don't go out of my way to say songs are bad, I don't remember it if I did before. I don't like Almost Famous, for instance, but it's not at all a bad song. It's just not for me

So we can't say Encore is bad? We cant say Fack is bad? We cant say Just Lose It is bad?

We cant say anything is bad even if we think it is?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. The whole "respect someones opinion" and "opinion cant be wrong" is going wayyyyy too far

If you took out puke, 1st single, rain man and ass like that and put in ricky ticky toc, we as americans and love you more, Encore would've been BMF.

But as it stands, yes, yes it is bad.

Almost Famous was ok, 25 to life is my angry at work song (which gets tons of heavy rotation. And I do mean TONS.) and if you disagree with me, I'll hunt you like it's deer season. HA jk. Tons o' fun, this is.

[MikeNUFC]

i like fack and encore. just cause its not a serious song doesnt mean its shit. its fun and i heart it

That's got nothing to do with it.

And I dont hate them cus they're not serious (I love As The World Turns, My Name Is, Real Slim Shady, Brain Damage etc), I hate them cus they're poorly executed and have embarrasing toilet humour

I was adressing Trigger's comment that you can't say something's bad.

If you took out puke, 1st single, rain man and ass like that and put in ricky ticky toc, we as americans and love you more, Encore would've been BMF.

Would have still been crap. But thats another argument.

thats not what he said. he said dont mix not liking something with something being bad. example: i kinda dig My First Single, its funny, but i recognize that shit is wack

But I do think 25 To Life is pretty bad? What's wrong with that?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

So we can't say Encore is bad? We cant say Fack is bad? We cant say Just Lose It is bad?

We cant say anything is bad even if we think it is?

I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. The whole "respect someones opinion" and "opinion cant be wrong" is going wayyyyy too far

If it's bad, it's bad. Encore is bad (I don't think it's THAT bad, but it's certainly his worst album, without a doubt). Fack is worse

25 To Life, a song that is not bad (it really isn't, I haven't met one person on this forum saying it truly is bad), but you simply just don't like it...that's fine. But it's by no means a bad song, and I stick by it. I respect you and your opinions, you usually know what you're talking about, but that's how I, myself, view music. Others have a more critical approach to music, such as class or yourself, and some people can like almost anything, as long as it sounds good to them. As long as you feel something, I think that's really all that truly matters

When I first heard 25TL, I felt something. I instantly knew it was my favorite song on Recovery. We all like different things, listen to different music for different reasons, and we all have our opinions. That will never change

You even said yourself at first you really liked it. So that must mean that you don't think it even is bad. I might be overrating it a little bit, but the song means more to me than it does to most people. I'm sorry, but that's just how I feel about it

[DBek23]

If you took out puke, 1st single, rain man and ass like that and put in ricky ticky toc, we as americans and love you more, Encore would've been BMF.

Would have still been crap. But thats another argument.

That IS another argument!

*goes to make debate notes on Wiki*

*run run run*

jokes.

[GenePeer]

This discussion has gotten stagnant. I think it's wack. You can't call it wack. I think it's wack. You can't really call it wack. Move on!

at the mario pictures Mike

[xxTrigger1989xx]

This discussion has gotten stagnant. I think it's wack. You can't call it wack. I think it's wack. You can't really call it wack. Move on!

at the mario pictures Mike

I know it has, but I felt the need to defend myself. At least I didn't be like "fuck you Mike". I respect him enough not to be a dick about it

[cityfan31]

Didn't he say himself that the reason he changed direction with Recovery was because of the different producers he started using? And that the relapse songs didn't make him feel the same way as his old stuff?

Either we can believe him - who makes the music - or yes, he went on TRshady and saw how people hated the accent and changed because of them.

C'mon guys I don't think for a minute eminem changed because of anyone. He put out Encore as an album. Therefore, no one has any influence on him, even Dre admitted that. End of argument.

[classthe_king]

And to the fans, I'll never let you down again, I'm back
I promise to never go back on that promise, in fact
Let's be honest, that last Relapse CD was "ehhhh"
Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground
Relax, I ain't going back to that now

He deffinitely did it for the fans and yes Kez, I think Eminem is a pussy

[WakeUpShow]

And to the fans, I'll never let you down again, I'm back
I promise to never go back on that promise, in fact
Let's be honest, that last Relapse CD was "ehhhh"
Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground
Relax, I ain't going back to that now

He deffinitely did it for the fans and yes Kez, I think Eminem is a pussy

lets see you pistol whip a huge bouncer haha jk