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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby RealSickLindley » Nov 20th, '10, 02:34

Ok.. This should be a good tester..

As far as rapping technique, who's more talented, Pac or Crooked?

(I know there are opinions, but there is NO contest)
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby 14Shots » Nov 20th, '10, 02:55

RealSickLindley wrote:Ok.. This should be a good tester..

As far as rapping technique, who's more talented, Pac or Crooked?

(I know there are opinions, but there is NO contest)


there is more to being an emcee than "rapping technique"

omg multi multi multi

crooked I cant make a song to save his life.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby RealSickLindley » Nov 20th, '10, 02:57

14Shots wrote:
RealSickLindley wrote:Ok.. This should be a good tester..

As far as rapping technique, who's more talented, Pac or Crooked?

(I know there are opinions, but there is NO contest)


there is more to being an emcee than "rapping technique"

omg multi multi multi

crooked I cant make a song to save his life.

Not just multies no, i'm not one of those people.

I mean just intelligently putting words together with a good vocabulary and original concepts.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 20th, '10, 03:16

RealSickLindley wrote:
14Shots wrote:
RealSickLindley wrote:Ok.. This should be a good tester..

As far as rapping technique, who's more talented, Pac or Crooked?

(I know there are opinions, but there is NO contest)


there is more to being an emcee than "rapping technique"

omg multi multi multi

crooked I cant make a song to save his life.

Not just multies no, i'm not one of those people.

I mean just intelligently putting words together with a good vocabulary and original concepts.

thank u for backing me up. there really is no contest. if ur not being lyrical, then rapping is just talking. wow way to go pac u can talk over a beat. dude has zero talent. yeah i said it, bring the hate.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby RealSickLindley » Nov 20th, '10, 03:24

I wouldn't say zero talent, he could rhyme, just nowhere near the unbeatable podium people put him on.

He was a decent rapper, with so much passion, and this passion got him noticed, and him getting noticed took hip hop that extra step as a genre that it couldn't reach before.

But regarding the comparison of rappers for just talent, for every Pac verse you can find, i can find a Crooked I verse to make it sound almost like nursery rhymes.
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Postby MikeBett » Nov 20th, '10, 03:54

If you can't feel Tupac then you don't understand a real struggle, and cannot appreciate the poetry of a man who metaphorically defines himself as a rose that grew from concrete!

Too busy counting syllables to realize the art.
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Postby 14Shots » Nov 20th, '10, 03:56

CoSh wrote:thank u for backing me up. there really is no contest. if ur not being lyrical, then rapping is just talking. wow way to go pac u can talk over a beat. dude has zero talent. yeah i said it, bring the hate.


you're acting as if pac would write out essays then read them in a monotone voice over a beat.

listen to dear mama, how long will they mourn me, pain etc. and if you cant feel the emotion then i dont know what to say. jesus christ Pac has ZERO talent? get the fuck out, you dont belong in hip hop.

this retard actually said pac has never told a decent story in his life. lets pretend Dopefiends Diner (amnog others) doesnt exist. smfh.

answer this question honestly. how many pac albums have you heard from front to back?
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Postby RealSickLindley » Nov 20th, '10, 03:58

MikeBett wrote:If you can't feel Tupac then you don't understand a real struggle, and cannot appreciate the poetry of a man who metaphorically defines himself as a rose that grew from concrete!

Too busy counting syllables to realize the art.

I've just explained that the dude has passion (grew up as a black panther) and he had a massive influence (took the genre mainstream). So stop using the 'oh, some people just listen for multies' shit as an excuse.

Tupac was a better artist than Crooked, he could make music better, as in stuff that the masses would want to hear..

But if you don't think Crooked is/was a better rapper then you're misguided.
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Postby KaRtLiDgE » Nov 20th, '10, 04:02

ur an idiot (to the guy who said Tupac had no talent). ANYONE CAN RHYME WORDS!!! So many people mistake that multis and good rhyme schemes are the best test of talent. When hip-hop was created, it was what the artist was saying that was the skill. THEN as hip-hop evolved, if the artist can say some good lyrics while also having multis, that is even more skillful.

I would bet that you can get a piece of paper and write 16 bars full of multis. I know I can in under 10 minutes. But would it have any listener value? No. That is why we are not rappers.

The raw emotion in Pac's voice and in his lyrics is unbelievable. A LOT MORE RARE than artists who spit multis and all types of middle rhymes and are always creating rhyme schemes.
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Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 20th, '10, 04:03

14Shots wrote:
CoSh wrote:thank u for backing me up. there really is no contest. if ur not being lyrical, then rapping is just talking. wow way to go pac u can talk over a beat. dude has zero talent. yeah i said it, bring the hate.


you're acting as if pac would write out essays then read them in a monotone voice over a beat.

listen to dear mama, how long will they mourn me, pain etc. and if you cant feel the emotion then i dont know what to say. jesus christ Pac has ZERO talent? get the fuck out, you dont belong in hip hop.

this retard actually said pac has never told a decent story in his life. lets pretend Dopefiends Diner (amnog others) doesnt exist. smfh.

answer this question honestly. how many pac albums have you heard from front to back?

lol ive heard dopefiends diner, only thing good about that song is the flow. the story is so elementary and played out. he could have stopped a murder, wow really thought out. YOU DONT BELONG IN HIP HOP. blinded and following the crowd. grow a pair and make ur own opinion
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Postby MikeBett » Nov 20th, '10, 04:04

i wasnt necessary talking to you(Lindley)...I just put that out there...

and all a rapper means is a person who performs rap music....as a singer is someone who sings

2pac is the better rapper. Because his rap songs are better
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby MikeBett » Nov 20th, '10, 04:07

CoSh wrote:
14Shots wrote:
CoSh wrote:thank u for backing me up. there really is no contest. if ur not being lyrical, then rapping is just talking. wow way to go pac u can talk over a beat. dude has zero talent. yeah i said it, bring the hate.


you're acting as if pac would write out essays then read them in a monotone voice over a beat.

listen to dear mama, how long will they mourn me, pain etc. and if you cant feel the emotion then i dont know what to say. jesus christ Pac has ZERO talent? get the fuck out, you dont belong in hip hop.

this retard actually said pac has never told a decent story in his life. lets pretend Dopefiends Diner (amnog others) doesnt exist. smfh.

answer this question honestly. how many pac albums have you heard from front to back?

lol ive heard dopefiends diner, only thing good about that song is the flow. the story is so elementary and played out. he could have stopped a murder, wow really thought out. YOU DONT BELONG IN HIP HOP. blinded and following the crowd. grow a pair and make ur own opinion



Lol Rap was different in the early 90's and that story wasn't played then. There was no superlyrical shit when Pac was alive
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby KaRtLiDgE » Nov 20th, '10, 04:11

MikeBett wrote:If you can't feel Tupac then you don't understand a real struggle, and cannot appreciate the poetry of a man who metaphorically defines himself as a rose that grew from concrete!

Too busy counting syllables to realize the art.



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"I'm not saying I'm gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world." - Tupac Shakur.

The things that Tupac said made people think. Made people smarter. Provided people with an escape from real life struggles for a few minutes. His music made you happy, sad, confident, angry, amped up to fight someone or amped up to make love to your girlfriend.

Rappers with no emotional intent in their lyrics provide a crash course in rhyming words. The funny thing is, most of those listeners can probably rhyme those words and more. At least I definitely feel I can rhyme words for hours of some real respected multis. (The kind that you can't look into a rhyming dictionary and find.)

Why would I praise someone for a "talent" that I feel millions of people also possess?
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby KaRtLiDgE » Nov 20th, '10, 04:16

Oh and one last thing.... I GUARANTEE that your beloved Eminem would not be where he is today if it wasn't for Tupac. I'm also sure Eminem would agree as well. Just listen to how Eminem talks about Tupac. He talks about him like a god. Whilst we all still know Biggie was a better lyricist and had a better flow. It don't matter. Tupac was better at what hip-hop was created on. The sole reason for its creation: emotions for people to relate to.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby MikeBett » Nov 20th, '10, 04:21

His music made you happy, sad, confident, angry, amped up to fight someone or amped up to make love to your girlfriend.


Exactly! ...He had the power to spark your EMOTIONS...

Not just say a technically skilled line and make you say uuw...

really make you FEEl...feel what he is saying in the same place you feel love and hatred...

but nooo he didnt have any talent because he didn't anylize and reconstruct his verse after he wrote it. He doesnt have any talent because all he wanted to do was just tell he exactly how he really felt.
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