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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby 14Shots » Nov 20th, '10, 04:27

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CoSh wrote:thank u for backing me up. there really is no contest. if ur not being lyrical, then rapping is just talking. wow way to go pac u can talk over a beat. dude has zero talent. yeah i said it, bring the hate.


you're acting as if pac would write out essays then read them in a monotone voice over a beat.

listen to dear mama, how long will they mourn me, pain etc. and if you cant feel the emotion then i dont know what to say. jesus christ Pac has ZERO talent? get the fuck out, you dont belong in hip hop.

this retard actually said pac has never told a decent story in his life. lets pretend Dopefiends Diner (amnog others) doesnt exist. smfh.

answer this question honestly. how many pac albums have you heard from front to back?

lol ive heard dopefiends diner, only thing good about that song is the flow. the story is so elementary and played out. he could have stopped a murder, wow really thought out. YOU DONT BELONG IN HIP HOP. blinded and following the crowd. grow a pair and make ur own opinion


how am I following the crowd? I never said Pac was the GOAT.

if you had said you thought Pac was overrated and you were into rappers who were more on the rhyming side of things I could understand that. But you said Pac had ZERO talent. that's insane and why no one should take you seriously.

also way to avoid answering my question faggot.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby KaRtLiDgE » Nov 20th, '10, 04:32

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His music made you happy, sad, confident, angry, amped up to fight someone or amped up to make love to your girlfriend.


Exactly! ...He had the power to spark your EMOTIONS...

Not just say a technically skilled line and make you say uuw...

really make you FEEl...feel what he is saying in the same place you feel love and hatred...

but nooo he didnt have any talent because he didn't anylize and reconstruct his verse after he wrote it. He doesnt have any talent because all he wanted to do was just tell he exactly how he really felt.


don't get me wrong, 90% of my favorite rappers can be considered great lyricist and I love all those multis as much as anyone on this website.... but when it comes to the point that your ambition to spit as many rhymes as humanly possible takes away from the point you were trying to convey to the listener, the music becomes trash. The great emcees from the mid-90s and on were the ones who could find that balance somewhere in the middle consistently.

It is a very tricky thing to judge though. I feel that is why so many people are giving their opinion on this topic (and why I am posting because I usually don't post much.) Its tricky because songs that are 80%technique and 20%emotion still have some listener value. An artist can grow a fanbase on having a great technique, but the songs that will go down as the best ever are the ones that people relate to.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby Elision » Nov 20th, '10, 05:37

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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby MikeBett » Nov 20th, '10, 05:41

KaRtLiDgE wrote:
MikeBett wrote:
His music made you happy, sad, confident, angry, amped up to fight someone or amped up to make love to your girlfriend.


Exactly! ...He had the power to spark your EMOTIONS...

Not just say a technically skilled line and make you say uuw...

really make you FEEl...feel what he is saying in the same place you feel love and hatred...

but nooo he didnt have any talent because he didn't anylize and reconstruct his verse after he wrote it. He doesnt have any talent because all he wanted to do was just tell he exactly how he really felt.


don't get me wrong, 90% of my favorite rappers can be considered great lyricist and I love all those multis as much as anyone on this website.... but when it comes to the point that your ambition to spit as many rhymes as humanly possible takes away from the point you were trying to convey to the listener, the music becomes trash. The great emcees from the mid-90s and on were the ones who could find that balance somewhere in the middle consistently.

It is a very tricky thing to judge though. I feel that is why so many people are giving their opinion on this topic (and why I am posting because I usually don't post much.) Its tricky because songs that are 80%technique and 20%emotion still have some listener value. An artist can grow a fanbase on having a great technique, but the songs that will go down as the best ever are the ones that people relate to.


Most rap I listen to is lyrical shit too....but passion is still number one too me....If you dont have any passion behind your lyrics theyre empty...
I think Pac and DMX are the only 2 rappers of my favorite that wouldn't be considered lyrical
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby marshalryder » Nov 20th, '10, 20:05

Multies and cyphers dont make legends.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby Robbie G » Nov 20th, '10, 20:17

marshalryder wrote:Multies and cyphers dont make legends.


Exactly. Getting shot does.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby TheHundred$ » Nov 20th, '10, 20:22

Robbie G wrote:
marshalryder wrote:Multies and cyphers dont make legends.


Exactly. Getting shot does.


50 must be mothafuckin Zeus then.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Nov 20th, '10, 21:07

cool from jay.

LOL @ the posts,but i agree 2pac is shit

u want real west coast G rap,listen to that sick sick sick nikka crooked I
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby Block » Nov 20th, '10, 22:57

classthe_king wrote:No. KRS-One is garbage


Are you serious, man? He basically birthed battle rapping. Of course emcees are going to evolve over time, but you have to pay homage to where it all started. KRS is a living legend; There will never be another emcee with as much clout and respect as he has.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby biterph0bia » Nov 20th, '10, 23:17

Nice list Jay.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby marshalryder » Nov 21st, '10, 08:50

Robbie G wrote:
marshalryder wrote:Multies and cyphers dont make legends.


Exactly. Getting shot does.

or committing suicide.
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 22nd, '10, 02:04

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:cool from jay.

LOL @ the posts,but i agree 2pac is shit

u want real west coast G rap,listen to that sick sick sick nikka crooked I

Are you serious? :laughing:
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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby marshalryder » Nov 23rd, '10, 09:30

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:cool from jay.

LOL @ the posts,but i agree 2pac is shit

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Re: Eminem is on Jay-z`s TOP 5 MC`S Dead/Alive.

Postby ThomasJ » Nov 23rd, '10, 09:34

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:cool from jay.

LOL @ the posts,but i agree 2pac is shit

u want real west coast G rap,listen to that sick sick sick nikka crooked I

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