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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby Alaine » Nov 19th, '10, 18:41

GenePeer wrote:
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GenePeer wrote:And Alaine, why did you have to mention that it wouldn't be a commercial success? Does that even matter?

it's amazed me that people still think commercial success does not matter to an artist at all. Of course it does. If you made a song would you prefer it to be listened by 3 people or by millions of people? every artist wants their music to be heard by as many people as possible, that's why they became professional & recording album, not doing karaoke or uploading youtube videos. Ok that's a little off your question but since we all know for sure it wouldn't be a commercial success, it's pointless to release it to the masses, just make it a mixtape would be easier. Actually now that I think about it, no way Jimmy Iovine would let Em have an ep with Royce out officially anyway since it's counted to Em's contract.

Anything Eminem releases will be sale if that's what you're worried about. Relapse is as "uncommercial" as an Em album can ever get and it's still 2x platinum. Of course, it wouldn't do 3x platinum in 6 months like Recovery, but that's where I was asking, does that really matter? Plus you not wanting an EP to come out because you don't care about the songs is just... :facepalm You can simply choose to not listen to it and let those who do to enjoy the new music.

edit: now i just realized you don't mind it being a mixtape. So what difference does it make FOR YOU if it's an EP or a mixtape? You won't listen to it either way :coffee: I don't get your reasoning.

Relapse is an official album by Eminem, and it was labeled as his comeback album too, it still had singles & videos & promos (CAB even went to #1). An Eminem album # An Eminem & somebody album, just look at D12's sale for example (and they actually had hits on the album).
And I guess I do care about his legacy & numbers more than normal people, a mixtape will not be counted to Eminem's discography while an EP is
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby true rue » Nov 19th, '10, 18:46

EminemBase wrote:He's also just not as worldly, plugged in or socially-aware as he was. So the material is just 99.9% about him fucking things, fucking the world, fucking women etc. it's getting seriously repetitive. And we're only noticing because he's doing it in such unimaginative (for him) ways.

Needs to step the ideas up now. It annoys me that he hasn't even TRIED to top say "Stan", in scope / ambition. I mean even if he tried and failed it'd be better than not trying. He's so obsessed with improving his technique, which I'm all for but at the same time, the content is suffering because of it. It's like he doesn't have that same ambition, to blow your head open.

Soooo many ideas he could do, simple-ideas that he could put his many lyrical strengths to use for and take to the extreme. Take for example "25 to Life", he takes a simple idea 'married to the game' and just BREATHES it, THAT is the creativity he needs to embody and aspire to always.

I'm really glad this period of his life (pills etc.) is over with, in his music, and the media have done it to death - As he won't be able to seriously revisit it without looking desperate / self-parody now. So it's going to force him to be original. But I also agree with you, the emotional content will be stale, we need concepts and big ideas. Not whimpering and bitching.


I agree 100%. What's weird is that when you read an article (like the one in Rolling Stone) or see an interview, he seems so focused, pretty content with his life, etc. and that makes the "whimpering and bitching" and choppy lyrical ideas more frustrating. There are a million things to write about and he has to find them.
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby pfati » Nov 19th, '10, 22:37

Alaine wrote:
CoSh wrote:@ Alaine you really want more emotional and love songs? :confusion: If he only made those kinda of songs from now on i would officially cut ties from this forum and from listening to him. I'm pretty sure he's done with them, they would sound very stale if he made any more after Recovery.

I said stories & emotional songs, I count songs as Going through changes, sing for the moment, lose yourself.. as his emotional songs & I count songs with concept like stan, ltwyl,.. are stories songs. In other words, I want relatable mature music, that's the kind of music he is capable of doing good right now.

well, i think em just has to come out with dope concepts now and mix it up which i think is what he is doing,,, the TI collab was dope as hell and both the royce collabs were dope and dont need a doctor was dope,,, those all had sorta different concepts and one of the sickest out of those is Echo... sooo yeah i'm happy with what he is doing and he isnt as choppy anymore, it seems like havin him work with REAL artist like royce has made him step up his game,, i mean EMINEM had to rewrite his verse for session two which means he really had to step up his game
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby Solace » Nov 19th, '10, 22:44

I think they were leaked on purpose to build up hype. Since the Recovery hype is dead, there needs to be more Eminem hype.
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby Emadyville » Nov 19th, '10, 22:46

Solace wrote:I think they were leaked on purpose to build up hype. Since the Recovery hype is dead, there needs to be more Eminem hype.


exactly my thoughts, and no i dont think more will leak, at least not now or soon :y:
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby MikeBett » Nov 19th, '10, 23:10

I may be in the minority on this board but I don't like them tracks with royce, HONESTLY Em is not very good at making that kind of tracks anymore (random lines with no real subject), they're very boring and I don't care for them at all, his strength right now is making tracks with stories & emotions. Not to mention it will be a failure in term of commercial success for sure. But I know lots of you guys love royce & em though so I want them to leak all, that way you guys still get to hear the tracks, we all win.
Lol @ anything Eminem releases being a commercial failure....It would be even more sucessful then the D12 Albums...because it's 50% Eminem as opposed to 20 lol...Obies first album did great, and that's with Em on 2 tracks (and nice singles)

Royce being on the album does not take away the fact that it's an Eminem album..
And every Eminem album is going to sell
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby NicoleEM » Nov 19th, '10, 23:13

To answer the OP question,obviously the leak was stopped ..for now :shifty:
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby psu24 » Nov 20th, '10, 07:17

Alaine wrote:
GenePeer wrote:And Alaine, why did you have to mention that it wouldn't be a commercial success? Does that even matter?

it's amazed me that people still think commercial success does not matter to an artist at all. Of course it does. If you made a song would you prefer it to be listened by 3 people or by millions of people? every artist wants their music to be heard by as many people as possible, that's why they became professional & recording album, not doing karaoke or uploading youtube videos. Ok that's a little off your question but since we all know for sure it wouldn't be a commercial success, it's pointless to release it to the masses, just make it a mixtape would be easier. Actually now that I think about it, no way Jimmy Iovine would let Em have an ep with Royce out officially anyway since it's counted to Em's contract.

Not really, Em could put out what he wants at this point. So could Jay, so could Kanye (actually does), so could Wayne and people are still going to buy it. I'd rather him focus on what he does best, being one of the best lyricists to ever live, not rapping fast over club beats. The two songs with Royce actually give some hope he's going in the right direction. What would sales or gaining more fans matter, he already has the money, couldn't really gain any more popularity than he already has, I'd rather he'd keep his integrity and make good music.
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby LilWayne4Life » Nov 21st, '10, 02:27

CoSh wrote:Everyone seems to think the leaks are just getting started. I think they're done...what do u think?


Don't think there done.
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Nov 21st, '10, 02:40

Alaine wrote:
GenePeer wrote:And Alaine, why did you have to mention that it wouldn't be a commercial success? Does that even matter?

it's amazed me that people still think commercial success does not matter to an artist at all. Of course it does. If you made a song would you prefer it to be listened by 3 people or by millions of people? every artist wants their music to be heard by as many people as possible, that's why they became professional & recording album, not doing karaoke or uploading youtube videos. Ok that's a little off your question but since we all know for sure it wouldn't be a commercial success, it's pointless to release it to the masses, just make it a mixtape would be easier. Actually now that I think about it, no way Jimmy Iovine would let Em have an ep with Royce out officially anyway since it's counted to Em's contract.


She just hit the nail on the head

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Seriously, people bitch about selling out and shit...uh...do you expect these artists to make NOTHING? If I were a rapper, I would definitely want more people to hear my shit and buy my albums
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby Satan's Night » Nov 21st, '10, 04:16

Omega wrote:Yep. There's a Dre song ft. Eminem called "Hype" coming soonish.


Where did u hear that 4rm?
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby DarkSideOfEm » Nov 21st, '10, 04:33

2 more for a greater year
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby OneFallsRich » Nov 21st, '10, 13:33

"where i'm at" on monday :shifty:
I'm only entertaining you
My goal is to stimulate, making you high
And take you and I
To a place you can't see
But I believe you can fly
I don't mean nobody harm, I'm just partying
I'm not your dad, not your mom, not your guardian
Just a man who's on the mic
So let me entertain you...
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Re: Do you think any more songs will leak?

Postby JAGODA » Nov 23rd, '10, 16:45

Would it wanted some leaks again... :D
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