50 Cent Calls His Next Album His “Detox”

[lil_bayly]

50 Cent says his upcoming album will be his, “Detox,” and speaks on the criteria for being a star.
http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2010/11/to ... his-detox/

[EminemBase]

Fact he considers the worth of an album or how good it is by how many "hits" the record has just shows why he's not a real artist. People have a cheek to call Em a pop rapper of the years, jut because he's huge. When he still puts his fucking mind into the mic.

Compared to this cunt who only goes for hits, that's his main concern. That's what he considers the worth of his music, whether it does well on the fucking Billboard charts.

[stillmatic]

Fact he considers the worth of an album or how good it is by how many "hits" the record has just shows why he's not a real artist. People have a cheek to call Em a pop rapper of the years, jut because he's huge. When he still puts his fucking mind into the mic.

Compared to this cunt who only goes for hits, that's his main concern. That's what he considers the worth of his music, whether it does well on the fucking Billboard charts.

oh boo hoo you little bitch, god what a little girl. you stalk any 50 post post anywhere here, you are to 50 cent what a fly is to sh1t.

the above is exactly what jay-z does, who has been known to say that he aims to make every song from his albums a single that can be played on radio. it all stems for the precedent set by ll cool j all the way back in the 80's, and artists such as snoop dogg, outkast, goodie mob etc. have all said similar...that they aim for all songs to be heard.

the difference between a 50 cent hit and a eminem hit is that eminem hits are usually not played at clubs and cars, whereas someone like 50 cent's is, that's why a hit is different to him then it is to eminem, it's apples and oranges really, they are not really comparable at all.

50 cent also gave his core fans 3 pieces of great material last year, with his 2 mixtapes and BISD which was clearly aimed at his core audience only. so yeah, what a sellout he is for trying to release material for a larger audience this time!!!

[EminemBase]

oh boo hoo you little bitch, god what a little girl. you stalk any 50 post post anywhere here, you are to 50 cent what a fly is to sh1t.

Okay first of all... If you're going to respond to me, I mean... I don't give a shit about grammar really but at least use fucking English you drip.

Secondly, what the fuck does my status vs. 50 Cent's status have to do with how good of a lyricist / rapper he is? That's the lamest response / defence ever.

That's a 10 year old's response. It's like you're crying, upset I'm insulting your hero that you emulate when you stand in front of mommy's mirror with a hair brush pretending to be a gangsta... So you outcry back at me like FUCK YOU MAN YOU'RE NOTHING COMPARED TO HIM.

the above is exactly what jay-z does, who has been known to say that he aims to make every song from his albums a single that can be played on radio. it all stems for the precedent set by ll cool j all the way back in the 80's, and artists such as snoop dogg, outkast, goodie mob etc. have all said similar...that they aim for all songs to be heard.

What the fuck does Jay-Z have to do with this? I don't like Jay either, I think he's an overrated fuck. Don't assume that I like Jay-Z because I dislike 50 you turd.

I realize it was a precedent set by LL, one that's to be followed by sell-outs with no taste, no character and no artistic merit, like 50. He's a clown.

the difference between a 50 cent hit and a eminem hit is that eminem hits are usually not played at clubs and cars, whereas someone like 50 cent's is, that's why a hit is different to him then it is to eminem, it's apples and oranges really, they are not really comparable at all.

No the difference is that Eminem's hits are still decent hip-hop (minus a few stupid ones). He still retains the qualities that make rap, rap. He still creates a unique flow, crafted to the beat, he RAPS (not half-croons / mumbles), he rhymes and he uses intelligence.

Difference is, Eminem still finds a way to angle his character just enough to make it catchy enough to be a hit, whilst retaining his artistic integrity and doing something unique. Where as 50 makes cheesy wannabe RnB / wannabe rap songs, just... fucking trash basically.

50 cent also gave his core fans 3 pieces of great material last year, with his 2 mixtapes and BISD which was clearly aimed at his core audience only. so yeah, what a sellout he is for trying to release material for a larger audience this time!!!

He's a sell-out because he aims for hits not quality. He thinks relevance is more important than intelligence. 'BISD' had a few good songs on it, but at the end of the day - Whether he sells out or not HE'S AN AWFUL RAPPER.

His rhymes are embarrassing and he has no creativity what so ever. He's so redundant, repetitive and lame. And I like him as a person, but as a rapper

[stillmatic]

That's a 10 year old's response. It's like you're crying, upset I'm insulting your hero that you emulate when you stand in front of mommy's mirror with a hair brush pretending to be a gangsta... So you outcry back at me like FUCK YOU MAN YOU'RE NOTHING COMPARED TO HI

ahh yes, play the man not the ball response. constant remarks about grammar and how poor the argument is, without any product in your own argument. keep going for it cuz, one day you'll get there.

my hero? okay.....because i was sure when it came to hip hop, the only people i consider heroes of mine are nas, kool g rap and az. now i'm confused.

What the fuck does Jay-Z have to do with this? I don't like Jay either, I think he's an overrated fuck. Don't assume that I like Jay-Z because I dislike 50 you turd.

I realize it was a precedent set by LL, one that's to be followed by sell-outs with no taste, no character and no artistic merit, like 50. He's a clown.

jay-z has everything to do with this because you're going at 50 cent for trying to make hits, when so many of the same artists out there use the same method when creating their albums. I used an elite rapper like jay-z as an example, same goes with the likes of outkast, ll cool j, snoop dogg...you can think whatever you want about them, but at the end of the day they are considered to be amongst the greatest rappers of all time, so they must be doing something right.

if they're sellouts, then so is eminem. its such a stupid argument as well, because your entire point is relating to be frustrated that others call eminem a sellout, so you must do the same to other artists. how about not giving a fuck what others say? eminem is not a sellout, neither are any of those artists.

No the difference is that Eminem's hits are still decent hip-hop (minus a few stupid ones). He still retains the qualities that make rap, rap. He still creates a unique flow, crafted to the beat, he RAPS (not half-croons / mumbles), he rhymes and he uses intelligence.

Difference is, Eminem still finds a way to angle his character just enough to make it catchy enough to be a hit, whilst retaining his artistic integrity and doing something unique. Where as 50 makes cheesy wannabe RnB / wannabe rap songs, just... fucking trash basically.

all you've established there is how different of a rapper eminem is to someone like 50 cent. 50 cent does use intelligence albeit in different ways, his is mostly with how the music is conveyed and how it comes out rather than the way eminem does it, mostly with his lyrics.

your point here has nothing to do what i said either. firstly, i'm not saying 50's hits are better than eminem, what im saying is 50 cent, and almost every other decent rappers hits knock the clubs and are played on car radios - it's that type of music. use eminem's last two big hits as an example - not afraid and love the way you lie - they are massive hits, but not the regular hip hop hits.

you think 50 cent has cheesy songs, that's your opinion. it doesn't make it a fact, just because you can't understand how he tries to balance his album with it isn't his fault. in fact, the funny thing here is that 50 failed to find that balance in his last album because he had barely ANY hit type of songs, it was all skewed towards explicit core audience songs.

He's a sell-out because he aims for hits not quality. He thinks relevance is more important than intelligence. 'BISD' had a few good songs on it, but at the end of the day - Whether he sells out or not HE'S AN AWFUL RAPPER.

His rhymes are embarrassing and he has no creativity what so ever. He's so redundant, repetitive and lame. And I like him as a person, but as a rapper

i see a lot of your argument is all about 50 cent not being 'intelligent' with his rhymes the way you want him to be, or as much as someone like eminem is. here's a fact for you, not every rapper can be as good as eminem or nas lyrically, who in their part are not as good as rakim or kool g rap, should we hate on them for that? no. 50 cent uses different avenues to convey his message, the same way andre 3000 built his career on using other parts of his arsenal to make up for his decencies, the same way kanye west uses the way the music sounds to make up for his lyrical decencies.

the best possible example i can give you is scarface, from as early as his geto boys days to now, if you seem to think he's not intelligent because he's not lyrically a master, then you simply can't understand his music. same goes for 50 cent. they often have more creativity then you'll ever know, you just don't allow them to show you.

[EminemBase]

^ Like fuck am I reading all that.

Tommorw I shall respond. From what I glanced already though, total babble. Saying Jay-Z has everything to do with it because he happens to be another artist doing the same

That is absolutely ridiculous. SO I guess I should critcize... Soulja Boy whilst I'm at it? Lmfao. What a totally inane argument. I'm speaking about 50 Cent, so I'm gonna criticize, 50 CENT. What anybody else is or isn't doing is totally irrelevant.

Even if the entire fucking genre was doing it, that wouldn't validate or make it okay or make my criticism any less valid and I'd still make it. Dumb dumb dumb argument.

[slimsoxshady]

Fact he considers the worth of an album or how good it is by how many "hits" the record has just shows why he's not a real artist. People have a cheek to call Em a pop rapper of the years, jut because he's huge. When he still puts his fucking mind into the mic.

Compared to this cunt who only goes for hits, that's his main concern. That's what he considers the worth of his music, whether it does well on the fucking Billboard charts.

well GRODT is arguably one of the best albums of all time
and BISD was not commercial at all
so you can't fault him for thinking he's done if he doesn't put out any hits over this next year or so

[EminemBase]

Fact he considers the worth of an album or how good it is by how many "hits" the record has just shows why he's not a real artist. People have a cheek to call Em a pop rapper of the years, jut because he's huge. When he still puts his fucking mind into the mic.

Compared to this cunt who only goes for hits, that's his main concern. That's what he considers the worth of his music, whether it does well on the fucking Billboard charts.

well GRODT is arguably one of the best albums of all time
and BISD was not commercial at all
so you can't fault him for thinking he's done if he doesn't put out any hits over this next year or so

Get Rich is not one of the best albums of all time. Okay ONE of, but not in the top regions, that's laughable. It's a bombastic album top to bottom but again, largely due to the superb, coherent production and great hooks.

Only thing he's ever truly brung to the table is those dark, melodic hooks. Well, back then anyway. But aside from that, it's just an album of cliché' and bad lyricism. It's certainly a great album overall but nowhere near one of the best of all time.

And Before I Self Destruct was commercial. Firstly the atrotious, desperate singles "Baby By Me" and "Do You Think About Me" and a few others which just ruined the album. As that's his formula every time. Then, even the not-so radio friendly songs are still commercial. Few exceptions such as "Stretch" and "Death to My Enemies" which are good songs.

But then shit like "I Got Swag" etc. he's clearly compromising himself and also, gangsta rap is about as commercial as you can get these days. It's so tried and tested. Besides which, again - My main argument wasn't even just that he's commercial. Like I said, THAT ASIDE, he's still an absolutely awful rapper. He's a bad lyricist and he's so so uncreative.

Only thing he ever had going for him was his image and catchy hooks. He's always sounded embarrassing, well - at least since his tongue has swollen anyway. But the less relevant his old image has become - the more you've seen him fail. He's talking about stuff he's not living now and isn't an artist aka creative so is unable to do anything else.

And that's why he flopped hard. Not because the material was THAT bad in comparison to other stuff which did better and not because his album leaked early. But because his image / life is paramount to his music, without it - it's just lame. Which is why he starts up drama every single album, I mean check the history. He's a desperate ex-drug dealer with a record deal.

[stillmatic]

^ Like fuck am I reading all that.

Tommorw I shall respond. From what I glanced already though, total babble. Saying Jay-Z has everything to do with it because he happens to be another artist doing the same

That is absolutely ridiculous. SO I guess I should critcize... Soulja Boy whilst I'm at it? Lmfao. What a totally inane argument. I'm speaking about 50 Cent, so I'm gonna criticize, 50 CENT. What anybody else is or isn't doing is totally irrelevant.

Even if the entire fucking genre was doing it, that wouldn't validate or make it okay or make my criticism any less valid and I'd still make it. Dumb dumb dumb argument.

you don't have a point, you said you glanced at it. either respond to the whole thing, or shut up. simple.

the point i was making is that 50 cent is not the only artist to follow that method of recording music, the likes of jay-z, ll cool j, outkast and snoop dogg do the exact same thing. why do i mention them? because you were speaking as if 50 cent is some big sell out who's the only big rapper out there who only tries to make hits, first of all that's wrong, and second of all no he's not.

i also proved you wrong, i said his last album was skewed to the left with nothing but street songs for his core audience with the exception of one-two songs....that right there destroys your entire argument. not to mention during that period he also released 2 mixtapes that were street heavy with nothing but music that wouldn't be considered "hit making music".

go attack lil wayne, drake, gucci mane, waka flocka etc. they are the ones who do what you are trying to say.

respond to whole thing or there's no argument really.

[stillmatic]

Embase won though... I guess

if you follow embase's line of thought, only rappers who are lyrical are intelligent or good.

so following that logic it immediately means that legends like scarface, andre 3000, kanye west, de la soul, ll cool j, snoop dogg etc. who are known to be sometimes lyrical, but most often not are not intelligent and crap.

so the new era of rappers like kid cudi, b.o.b., big sean etc. what are they? just because they are not super lyrical, that means that they are not intelligent and crap?

no.

the beauty of hip hop is its diversity. if it was just about being super lyrical, it would be boring as shit.

[EminemBase]

Embase won though... I guess

if you follow embase's line of thought, only rappers who are lyrical are intelligent or good.

so following that logic it immediately means that legends like scarface, andre 3000, kanye west, de la soul, ll cool j, snoop dogg etc. who are known to be sometimes lyrical, but most often not are not intelligent and crap.

so the new era of rappers like kid cudi, b.o.b., big sean etc. what are they? just because they are not super lyrical, that means that they are not intelligent and crap?

no.

the beauty of hip hop is its diversity. if it was just about being super lyrical, it would be boring as shit.

No no, that's not my line of thought AT ALL.

I'm a HUGE fan of most the people you just mentioned. Especially B.o.B (signature is a bit of a give way), Kid Cudi and Kanye West.

I'm not just criticizing 50 for not being lyrical, I'm saying - he's an awful rapper / artist period. He has nothing going for him. His career was built on backstory, drama, hot beats and hooks. He's not a true artist, he's not creative.

Beyond a pure lack of new or interesting ideas, he just SOUNDS awful too. He can't ride a beat properly and just slurs and mumbles. And yes I'm aware it's because of his swollen tongue, I don't care what the reason is, he sounds terrible now.

B.o.B is creative (extremely) and MAJORLY talented, and IS in fact lyrical, and a great singer and multi-instrumentalist. Same for Andre 3k. Kid Cudi is not lyrical but is still very innovative in pushing new sonic boundaries right now, he's doing something very unique.

Kanye is just... Incredible on all-fronts, lyrically he's good - Not amazing but he more than makes up for that in ambition, innovation and integrity.

50 Cent does not deserve to be mentioned in the same fucking breath as them. So stop generically lumping people in and misunderstanding my argument. You've tried to simplify it a few times now. Firstly by saying I'm saying 50 is only shit because he's commercial, secondly because he's not lyrical. NO, he's shit because he is - UNORIGINAL / UNSKILLED / BLAND AND EXTREMELY LIMITED.

He is boring and uncreative. He's not an artist.

[stillmatic]

I'm not just criticizing 50 for not being lyrical, I'm saying - he's an awful rapper / artist period. He has nothing going for him. His career was built on backstory, drama, hot beats and hooks. He's not a true artist, he's not creative.

Beyond a pure lack of new or interesting ideas, he just SOUNDS awful too. He can't ride a beat properly and just slurs and mumbles. And yes I'm aware it's because of his swollen tongue, I don't care what the reason is, he sounds terrible now.

B.o.B is creative (extremely) and MAJORLY talented, and IS in fact lyrical, and a great singer and multi-instrumentalist. Same for Andre 3k. Kid Cudi is not lyrical but is still very innovative in pushing new sonic boundaries right now, he's doing something very unique.

Kanye is just... Incredible on all-fronts, lyrically he's good - Not amazing but he more than makes up for that in ambition, innovation and integrity.

50 Cent does not deserve to be mentioned in the same fucking breath as them. So stop generically lumping people in and misunderstanding my argument. You've tried to simplify it a few times now. Firstly by saying I'm saying 50 is only shit because he's commercial, secondly because he's not lyrical. NO, he's shit because he is - UNORIGINAL / UNSKILLED / BLAND AND EXTREMELY LIMITED.

He is boring and uncreative. He's not an artist.

again you speak as if 50 cent being awful should be viewed throughout the hip hop community, as if it's fact, when it's just your opinion.

without getting into the specifics of everything you say about 50 cent, and me getting into specifics about areas of his music that is creative and exciting, i think to me it's just clear you are not a fan of the type of rap music he makes.

the people who make 50 cents type of music consider him amongst the elite, and if anyone who has a right to speak about things like that it's them - the likes of snoop dogg, ice cube, scarface, dmx just to name a few of the elite gangsta rap artists out there have labeled 50 cent's music as great.

you seem to hate on him especially because he's "commerical"...how so exactly? he had 1 album that was commercial and that was curtis, and that was during a period when he had released so much music before that and had too much going on when that album came out, it was clear that album was done for the brand 50 cent and interscope rather than him wanting it out, it was done in less than a week too.

you don't like the fact that 50 cent in his music talks about the harsh realities of life in the ghetto's of the united states without trying painting a positive picture, that's your issue. you don't like him, done, we get it, it's done. your constant attacks get tiring.

ps. did you just say that kanye, b.o.b and andre 3000 are lyrical? b.o.b is new and wouldn't have a long history of fans, but even the most ardent of kanye and 3k fans would never ever say he's lyrical. they are lyrical at times, but it is common knowledge in hip hop that is not their strength, in fact it's not even debatable.

[Willy]

BoB is lyrical. Listen to him noob.

[EminemBase]

ps. did you just say that kanye, b.o.b and andre 3000 are lyrical? b.o.b is new and wouldn't have a long history of fans, but even the most ardent of kanye and 3k fans would never ever say he's lyrical. they are lyrical at times, but it is common knowledge in hip hop that is not their strength, in fact it's not even debatable.

I've said all I want to say on 50. We're going in circles. He's not creative, he's not innovative and he's an awful rapper. Regarldess of how commercial he is.

As for saying Andre 3k is not lyrical >>>> <<<< You've just ethered yourself right there and proved you know nothing.

And you quite clearly don't know much B.o.B or understand him if you think he's not lyrical either. B.o.B cannot be defined as one genre. He's foremost a hip-hop artist, that's his vibe and the backdrop of his music but he incorporates many genres.

It's not that hip-hop is not his strong point - it's that he's a fantastic singer and MUSICIAN also, and likes to make full / proper songs and not just rap. He's a very special artist, but if you think he can't rap strong... You clearly don't know much B.o.B and are just basing that off of a perception.

You've proven you're ignorant and hypocritical enough to me now. I'm out of this thread. Slander me all you want (which you will, predictably) when I'm gone. B.o.B is creative as fuck and is very lyrical, in a true sense. He's poetic and mature, and an amazing songwriter already.


>> Anything 50 has ever made or could dream up.

Andre 3k deserves a mention in one of the greatest. 50 Cent deserves his mention as one of the worst. Later.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

50 is shit now.