Funkmaster Flex the bitch disses Tupac 14 years later

[mcZu]

Guys, don't succumb to the level of insults.. Keep it respectable.


EDIT:

Emotion is part of lyricism, you're delivery can be as sad as hell, without the correct words, bars, lyrics, it won't have the proper impact as it should have.

Still not really saying much new here. The only case a delivery could be intently sad and not come across right is if the delivery simply don't fit the mood of the piece. If you're talking about a happy subject in a sad way, then sure.. but the only way I see this happening is purposefully and to prove your point alone, not in any real music.

Like I said, you're right in that the words themselves can have their own inlaid emotion, but in a song that emotion WILL NEVER be heard. Only through the way the words are delivered will emotion be portrayed properly.. Unless you're reading the lyrics, in which case I don't care to argue about that because that's something different all together.

Still, it remains part of lyricism. I'm not saying you're wrong, 'cause you're right, without the proper delivery it won't be emotional music; however, since lyricism is the craft of writing, and writing emotional packed lyrics is part of that, I still believe that ''emotion'' is an aspect of lyricism. The things you write depicting a certain feel is what people usually refer to as emotional writing. Take Joe Budden for example, he often has certain references to his personal life in his bars that portray an emotion, that is the emotional aspect of writing. Like how rhyming and wordplay is part of the tools one uses to write, emotional phrasing is one as well.

[Jaz]

What would you say if I said that the emotion you're speaking on is located in the subject the words are about and not the words themselves?


I'm not 100% sure they are, but I can see that becoming a possibility.

[WakeUpShow]

Lost argument so insults me because he can't say anything back to my logical response.

@Jaz Make better music than Pac did and you can talk

1. You have no say in whether hip hop is good or not.
2. Tupac has never rhymed a word more than 1 syllable.
3. Lost the battle to Biggie by making a song with no real shots showing he was butthurt.
4. Has never switched his flow once besides Dopefiends Diner


Ethered. I'm out. BTW you suck at life. Open your ears and get off pacs cock. I win and you know it, so i'm not responding anymore. Anyone with half a brain can tell 2Pac was a shitty rapper. I guess you don't even have a half of a brain lol at you, you waste of sperm, respond all you want, because i'm out. And no matter how much you say you win, you lost. Just accept it and move on. @ you.

end of thread.

1. I'm sure k block already stripped that away from you already.
2. Listen to 2Pac for the first time in your life. PLEASE
3. Hit 'Em Up & Bomb 1st > Who Shot Ya. Face the facts, shut the fuck up.
4. Stupid exaggeration, listen to 2Pac. open your eyes.

You're claiming you won an argument = loss. 6th grade insults = loss. you're not responding anymore so shut the fuck up, sit and swallow what I'm saying nd if anyone who likes 2Pac has half a brain-cell then LMAO @ the state of the world. You claim you win an argument lmao it's funny. And I thought that you had the "guts" to admit a loss. LIE.

end of argument. Because you said you weren't gonna respond. so SHUT THE FUCK UP

i'll respond. LOL x 1,000,000,000,000

[Slim's Shady]

^ Respond with something logical maybe?

This is why your opinion on Hip-Hop has less value than anyone else's

[mcZu]

What would you say if I said that the emotion you're speaking on is located in the subject the words are about and not the words themselves?


I'm not 100% sure they are, but I can see that becoming a possibility.

That's definitely the case, but you shouldn't forget that the words and phrases together lead to the way the subject is portrayed.

[WakeUpShow]

^ Respond with something logical maybe?

This is why your opinion on Hip-Hop has less value than anyone else's

you like 2pac lol

[mcZu]

CosH, Slim's Shady, either stay on topic, dicuss something like normal people, or get out of this thread. This isn't the place to fight out a personal feud.

[Slim's Shady]

CosH, Slim's Shady, either stay on topic, dicuss something like normal people, or get out of this thread. This isn't the place to fight out a personal feud.

I told him to respond with something logical, he obviously can't do that.

[WakeUpShow]

CosH, Slim's Shady, either stay on topic, dicuss something like normal people, or get out of this thread. This isn't the place to fight out a personal feud.

peep my post in the first page, i knew this shit would happen. i'll lol at him over pm

[BILI]

Funny thing is that both Pac and Biggie are bad MCs.

[WakeUpShow]

CosH, Slim's Shady, either stay on topic, dicuss something like normal people, or get out of this thread. This isn't the place to fight out a personal feud.

I told him to respond with something logical, he obviously can't do that.

i gave my points, i could converse with you like shakespeare but you would still say it wasn't logical just because you couldn't think of a good comeback.

[Jaz]

What would you say if I said that the emotion you're speaking on is located in the subject the words are about and not the words themselves?


I'm not 100% sure they are, but I can see that becoming a possibility.

That's definitely the case, but you shouldn't forget that the words and phrases together lead to the way the subject is portrayed.

Meh, I don't think this is gonna go anywhere really.

Essentially we're arguing whether a song's delivery can stand alone as the driving emotional force, or if the words create that delivery. At that point it might just be becoming opinion.

[Slim's Shady]

CosH, Slim's Shady, either stay on topic, dicuss something like normal people, or get out of this thread. This isn't the place to fight out a personal feud.

I told him to respond with something logical, he obviously can't do that.

i gave my points, i could converse with you like shakespeare but you would still say it wasn't logical just because you couldn't think of a good comeback.

Are you fucking kidding me?

"lol you like 2pac", "I'll respond LOL x100000". After I gave you a paragraph. Real logical, and you began with the insults because YOU couldn't think of a comeback. Yeah, logical and not immature at all.

[mcZu]

What would you say if I said that the emotion you're speaking on is located in the subject the words are about and not the words themselves?


I'm not 100% sure they are, but I can see that becoming a possibility.

That's definitely the case, but you shouldn't forget that the words and phrases together lead to the way the subject is portrayed.

Meh, I don't think this is gonna go anywhere really.

Essentially we're arguing whether a song's delivery can stand alone as the driving emotional force, or if the words create that delivery. At that point it might just be becoming opinion.

Don't know about opinion, but we're definitely agreeing to disagree. Let's leave it at that, since this thread's initial topic wasn't even about this, lol... If you ever want to dicuss it again, hit me up.

[WakeUpShow]

wow thats all i have to say. I responded like that because you made me regurgitate the same points over and over again. I was just toying with your foolish mind at that point. I'm out for real now, i'm not responding anymore. Your argument is so dumb, i feel like you know biggie is better, and you're just fooling with me.