Am I the only one who thinks Nas > Em?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Wayne better than EITHER of them is just laughable



Wayne might be better than...let's say...Gucci Mane or some other bullshit rapper. He's certainly better than Rick Ross. But Em and Nas? HELL no

[.єddy]

The shit I took 20 minutes ago > Lil Wayne

[SatansAngel]

Wayne better than EITHER of them is just laughable



Wayne might be better than...let's say...Gucci Mane or some other bullshit rapper. He's certainly better than Rick Ross. But Em and Nas? HELL no

Who gives a fuck who Lil Wayne is better than? He's garbage, so saying he's better than Gucci Mane is like saying a fat turd nugget is better than a fat load of diarrhea.

[Atone]

Half of hip hop > Nas

[stillmatic]

Storytelling: Eminem = Nas.
Rhyming: Eminem > Nas.
Lyrics: Eminem > Nas.
Versatility: Eminem > Nas.
Flow: Eminem > Nas.
Discography: Eminem = Nas. (thanks to Encore)

As biased as it may look to you, this is what I feel and I'm not gonna give Nas a point just to make my argument look better.

That is so silly, I don't even know when to start.

I especially enjoy when people say Eminem puts more emotion in his music. That is false, Nas doesn't need to yell or scream to convey the emotion in his music. In fact Nas often does some of his most emotional songs the way Eminem does, 'One Mic' is the best example, it's so hollow, so poignant and the way he brings the emotion up and gets louder is flawless, it's easy listening and and simply remarkable. Nas doesn't have to be controversial to bring out emotion in his music, this is not a shot at Eminem as he's great at how he brings out the fire in him, Nas is different though, just because you're angrier doesn't make your music more emotional.

To say that Eminem also has better lyrics than Nas' is untrue. Eminem is an unbelievable lyrcist, but his lyrics are always easy to understand even for the common idiot, whereas Nas' lyrics are so intelligent and complex, that it sometimes needs be broken down to understand. Nas music is also clearly more positive than Eminem's music, whilst Eminem does have great rebellious music which IMO should be seen as more positive than it is in the media, Nas simply has the most overwhelmingly anti-system and positive music in hip hop (excluding Tupac) - with songs like 'The world is yours', 'Patience', 'I can', 'If I ruled the world' etc. that will live on forever.

Nas also has many, many more and betters storytelling songs than Eminem. I don't understand where this belief that Eminem is somehow Slick Rick as a storyteller comes from, this is the widest gap between them IMO. Eminem is a great storyteller, top 5 in Hip Hop history, but Nas is up there Slick Rick battling it out for #1, whereas Eminem probably just makes the top 5. I assume people think Eminem's best storytelling song is Stan, just because that has a catchy hook and got a lot of radio play doesn't make it better than Nas' storytellings, listen to 'I gave you power', put things in context and tell me which songs better. For those who say Nas can't do Eminem type songs, be more specific. Nas can do whatever Eminem does, with the exception of silly goofy songs, which can also be a good thing.

Nas has also had to compete with Hip Hop elite and legends on wax, and not just popcorn artists like Ja Rule, or executives like Benzino or people who's music barely gets heard of outside their house like Canibus (as great as he is). Nas made Jay-Z cry in front of the world on radio, it's there for everyone to see. This is almost unheard of in music for a rival to almost come to tears over a diss toward them, let alone one of the biggest names in music in Jay-Z. For Rocafella members like Memphis Bleek to practically admit defeat is another notch in Nas' legacy. He made grown men cry over a song directed at them!

Finally, Nas has also not been afraid to collaborate with the greatest of the greats. He's gone head to head with the likes of Mobb Deep, Jay-Z, Wu Tang members, Q-Tip, Pete Rock, Lauryn Hill, Dr.Dre, Cormega, Foxy Brown, Scarface, Ice Cube, DMX, Mary J.Blige, Alicia Keys, Rakim, KRS One, Snoop Dogg, MC Shan etc. That's a record.

[SatansAngel]

directed at them!

Finally, Nas has also not been afraid to collaborate with the greatest of the greats. He's gone head to head with the likes of Mobb Deep, Jay-Z, Wu Tang members, Q-Tip, Pete Rock, Lauryn Hill, Dr.Dre, Cormega, Foxy Brown, Scarface, Ice Cube, DMX, Mary J.Blige, Alicia Keys, Rakim, KRS One, Snoop Dogg, MC Shan etc. That's a record.

Wu-Tang members and Rakim are the only notable ones.

Em can lyrically slaughter the rest of them.

[stillmatic]

Sorry but all of AZ, Ice Cube, Scarface, Q-Tip, Prodigy (of Mobb Deep in mid 90's/early 00's), KRS and Lauryn Hill would give Eminem a run for his money. It's not all lyrical either.

Fwiw. Nas bodied Canibus multiple times too, including on Canibus' own shit.

[SatansAngel]

Sorry but all of Ice Cube, Scarface, Q-Tip, Prodigy (of Mobb Deep in mid 90's/early 00's), KRS and Lauryn Hill would give Eminem a run for his money. It's not all lyrical either.

Fwiw. Nas bodied Canibus multiple times too, including on Canibus' own shit.

Cube is trash lyrically. No multis, simple one dimensional lyricist.

[ThomasJ]

Sorry but all of Ice Cube, Scarface, Q-Tip, Prodigy (of Mobb Deep in mid 90's/early 00's), KRS and Lauryn Hill would give Eminem a run for his money. It's not all lyrical either.

Fwiw. Nas bodied Canibus multiple times too, including on Canibus' own shit.

Cube is trash lyrically. No multis, simple one dimensional lyricist.

Dead Homies
Growin' Up
Take Me Away
Hood Robbin'

Just to name a few.

[SatansAngel]

Sorry but all of Ice Cube, Scarface, Q-Tip, Prodigy (of Mobb Deep in mid 90's/early 00's), KRS and Lauryn Hill would give Eminem a run for his money. It's not all lyrical either.

Fwiw. Nas bodied Canibus multiple times too, including on Canibus' own shit.

Cube is trash lyrically. No multis, simple one dimensional lyricist.

Dead Homies
Growin' Up
Take Me Away
Hood Robbin'

Just to name a few.

I'm not trynna take anything away from Cube, he's a legend and has contributed a lot to West Coast rap and hip hop PERIOD but Em would stomp him lyrically.

[SatansAngel]

When the fuck did Nas get on a track wit Canibus?
What album and how many collabs they done?

[stillmatic]

When the fuck did Nas get on a track wit Canibus?
What album and how many collabs they done?

Canibus was on the FIrm album.

There's also another song that was put together by Canibus people I'm pretty sure for a mixtape or something, I can't find it on youtube right now, will look later too.

As for Ice Cube, calling him lyrically trash is just stupid dude and you know it. Ice Cube's music paved the way for Eminem's anger too, Ice Cube was original soldier and militant of Hip Hop, his words were as fucking vicious as they ever came. In terms of classic material, Ice Cube has more than any artist in Hip Hop history IMO (including NWA + Westside Connection).

It's not just lyrics either, thats why I mentioned Ice Cube being a force if Em ever got in a song with him. Ice Cube's momentum when delivering his rhymes could easily body Eminem if he was on his A game, just as Eminem could do the same to him.

[Robbie G]

I'm a huge Nas fan but I'd still take Em in his Prime over Nas in his prime.

[I'mShady]

Prime Nas> anyone, ever (Illmatic)
But overall Em>>>Nas

SSLP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Illmatic
MMLP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(infinity (not infinite don't mix up))>> illmatic

TES >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Illmatic...

Man, I'm a huge Eminem fan, but Illmatic is, with no doubt, the best hip-hop album of all-time.
sorry

[xxTrigger1989xx]

^^ No it isn't. It's WAY UP on the list, but not of all time. Sorry Kanye.

LULZ

It might be one of the best, but it's not the best

TES murders everything. A damn near flawless album