Most skilled MC.Tupac vs Biggie vs Nas vs Jay-Z.

by **EM1973** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:20

by **Slim's Shady** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:22

*Predicts Nas as the winner*

I would have to say that Biggie is the most skilled out all of them.

by **MikeNUFC** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:24

Nas or Jay-Z

Nas is more consistent so that.

by **mcZu** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:28

In my opinion, Nas is the most skilled.

by **Satire** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:33

Nas was more lyrical, Biggie had the best flow/mic presence, Jay Z, in his prime, was a nice balance of both.

Jay Z sucks now though so I'm gonna go with Nas for still being good.

by **NicoleEM** » Nov 28th, '10, 21:51

Would have to go with Nas :coffee:

by **obzion** » Nov 28th, '10, 22:01

Nasty Nas

by **Hiphopdane** » Nov 28th, '10, 22:05

Voted for Biggie because of his story telling skills, flows, vivid thoughts and musicality. Jay-Z would have got it if he didn't sell out so early (prime Jay-Z = freshest delivery of all time).

by **WakeUpShow** » Nov 28th, '10, 22:36

If you could combine Pac's emotion, Big's flow, Nas' lyrics, and Jay's all around attitude that would be one sick MC

by **obzion** » Nov 28th, '10, 22:54

Lello18 wrote:I would chose Eminem but since he ain't an option and the question means most skilled MC between these 4....

hmmmm... real tough one, heard alot of pac albums, 1 nas album, 4 jay-z albums and none of biggie...

so that takes big out of my answer cause I dunno his music, I pick....... Nas

only one nas album?! man, you're sleeping on one of the GOAT :shakehead:

by **stillmatic** » Nov 29th, '10, 01:18

In terms of skill it's easily between Nas and Biggie, and Nas wins out because of his rhyme schemes and story concepts. Tupac is very skilled too, and this is often underrated. Jay-Z is so behind the rest when it comes to talent, that's it not even funny.

Skill - Nas > Biggie > Pac.
Overall - Nas > Pac > Biggie.

Imo.

by **Fa-Q** » Nov 29th, '10, 01:32

I know Jay is nothing as far as an MC...as a rapper he's great...but MC he is nothing special

by **EminemBase** » Nov 29th, '10, 01:43

Well, 2Pac is renowned for his emotion so people assume he's overrated as a lyricist - which he is, BUT at the same time he's underrated because of that perception.

As, he was still a very skilled lyricist and one of the best. Like Em, he had many shades to his character, he chose more and more to emphasize emotion and content over lyrical focus - As Em also did post MMLP but because of this people are blindsided in seeing his lyrical skill too. So, 2Pac deserves a mention but Nas is a better 'technical' lyricist.

I say 'technical' as, well he's better at rhyme schemes etc. but Nas also can't do what 2Pac could do and there's more to great rap lyricism and great lyricism than just rhyme schemes and one-liners etc. Not that Nas is a one-liner kind of guy, but I don't mean punchlines, I mean ALL one-liners, one-liner poetic points and so on. But, there's so much to being a great lyricist.

And I think the more a lyricist can do, the greater they are. Which is why Em is the greatest of them all, as he can do it all. They can't.

Back to the thread though, as for Biggie - I'm not well-versed enough in his work to give a proper opinion but from what I've heard he's good. PS. It's kind of bizarre he's looked at as this kind of, ultimate truth telling gangsta, the ultimate... Honesty of the genre when in reality he was a fraud himself lmao.

Anyone who doubts me - Go look into his background PROPERLY. Don't just read Wikipedia - There's videos of his own mother talking about his life. He went to fucking private school and his mother provided a middle-class environment for him. He always had food on the table and clothes etc. and she was like talking about him rapping about growing up in the slums with no food etc. and saying how that was just him rapping about other people's lives.

Doesn't take anything away from him as a lyricist, but it's just wrong that people have this perception of him, when he was actually a fake. He knew those sorts of people but he was rapping their lives, not his.

And, jay doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as 2Pac and Nas. He's always annoyed me, I quite like him as a person but he's by far the most overrated MC i've ever come across. And it's only been recently that EVERYBODY has been sucking his cock. And the justification is always what he's done as a business man...

It's like, who gives a fuck? That's a separate discussion. All these polls that rate 'great MC's' and evoke fucking money-making skills and "swag" into it are ridiculous. I couldn't give a fuck if Jay was the black Bill Gates, he's not that great of an MC and Nas and 2Pac are easily better.

by **xxTrigger1989xx** » Nov 29th, '10, 01:50

Biggie, definitely. His storytelling skills are godly :worship:

by **FreeSpeech** » Nov 29th, '10, 03:32

Strict lyricism: Nas
Repeat Listenability: Jay Z
Meaning/soul/artistic: Tupac
Delivery/Mic Presence: Biggie

It's impossible to really compare the 4. I listen to Jay the most, because he has the best beats and is the most listenable. I listen to Tupac for songs like Can't C Me and Hail Mary, good pump up music to make you feel unstoppable. I respect his deep songs, but I don't care for them. I listen to Biggie a good deal, kind of as an alternate for Jay, very listenable. I used to love Nas, but he got a little boring. I like him, but I find him very pretentious at times. Hip hop never died buddy...