DJ Khalil Produced Kush?

[EminemBase]

Is this true?

I mean if so, that's ridiculous. I'm sick of Dre getting credit as a mastermind producer and yet, this fucking legendary album which has taken so long is seemingly produced by a plethora of other people?

That's scandalous man. So "Kush" is called a Dr. Dre song, despite the fact that somebody else wrote and is singing the hook, somebody else wrote his lyrics and somebody else has a verse. AND somebody else produced the actual music... in what way is that DRE'S song?

Other than the fact he hopped on it and stamped his name on it. Now, we all know he isn't a lyricist, fine, I can accept that - But then, at least produce all the fucking music. If that's all you have to do, DO ALL OF IT. It's like Eminem having other people write half his lyrics.

What Dre does is the equivalent to Van Gough having twenty other painters paint a massive portrait of flowers, then coming in at the end - painting the final petal and going "that's my work". Dre shouldn't be allowed to call Detox his work if other people are contributing to such a high degree. Should be called a fucking collaborative album.

The way this is going down also coincides with what 2Pac said about Dre years ago when he was still alive. He basically said (in a rant) that other people would make songs then Dre would come in and add a touch and do basically nothing, and get full production credit. I'm not being funny, I know Dre is a great producer but his legacy / level of involvement isn't far off fucking fraudulent.

[WakeUpShow]

if so, that's upsetting. It is such a great beat. I don't even know what to think about dre anymore. He's not writing and he's not producing What is he doing???

[slimsoxshady]

Dre's so boss...he just collects the check

[OMEGA]

What makes you think Khalil produced Kush? It doesn't sound like his work in the least. Kush is definitely Dre's style.

[DanWS]

Khalil definitely had something to do with it, but I don't know how much exactly. And I don't know how much involvement Dre had in it, either.

It's like with the Still Dre beat, apparently Dre was on the drum machine, someone else was was doing bass and Scott Storch was on the keys and came up with what became the signature sound of that song. I imagine something similar with Kush; that Dre did have involvement of some sort but how much compared to Khalil we don't know.

I know its Wikipedia and therefore untrustworthy but on there it says "The song is produced by Dr. Dre and co-produced by DJ Khalil with additional keys by Daniel "Danny Keyz" Tannenbaum". So it sounds like that "Danny Keyz" dude came up with that signature West-coast piano sound, while the effects in the song such as the risers definitely sound like theyre from Khalil's catalogue. So who knows how much Dre contributed to it.

[Hiphopdane]

It sounds very little like Khalil and very much like Dre so I doubt he had that much to do with it. I don't really care about the song anyway. I find the production kindda boring... lyrics are even worse.

It pisses me off though that Alex da kid is going to be a part of the album. I mean, he has delayed it so many times and now we get production from him? What the hell.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

its dre's keys and drumbs,khalils snare,im sure.

dre had like 70% of the production and khalil got the 30%

even tho dre doesnt write,u think he doesnt have a look on his verse before he records it,doesnt he have input on his own verse,or will he record what ever anybody writes for him.

[TheGentlePlayer]

The song is produced by Dr. Dre and co-produced by DJ Khalil with additional keys by Daniel "Danny Keyz" Tannenbaum and additional vocals by Sly, Kobe and Blackthoven.

[DanWS]

its dre's keys and drumbs,khalils snare,im sure.

dre had like 70% of the production and khalil got the 30%

even tho dre doesnt write,u think he doesnt have a look on his verse before he records it,doesnt he have input on his own verse,or will he record what ever anybody writes for him.

Khalil's snare? lol. What makes you say that?

[dR3]

He is the co-producer.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

It sounds like Dre. I'm pretty sure Khalil probably co-produced, it sounds more Dre than Khalil. I'm sure Khalil helped with some of the sound effects that DO sound like his work (like maybe during Akon's hook), but that West-Coast vibe it kinda has...I think Dre did

I agree with the OP, though, if it's not his work it shouldn't be called his work...But, he might have produced most of Detox for all we really know

[mdemaz]

Detox not a solo effort? I'm catatonic.

[stillmatic]

He is the co-producer.

and even that is pushing it, at best he's just an additional producer.

Not surprised to see the thread started by the person it was started by. All hearsay, no actual info and just gossip little girl talk.

in the 25 years dr.dre has been in the game, not once has anything like that ever been said. in the case of tupac, it was pac' saying that dre took too long. even then, dre barely ever produced any tracks when pac' was running death row, maybe only 2 or 3 so that argument is destroyed right there anyway.

dr.dre is very well known to flip tracks completely, which is why original producers still get an additional producer credit even though the track is completely lopsidedly changed. look at 'hate it or love it', cool and dre said that dr.dre compeltely changed the track from a harder bass feel to a soulful simple cool beat, and dre stil let them have the main producer credit, but for mary j.blige's remix to it she made sure it was dr.dre's (for history purposes).

[Hiphopdane]

Agree with Stillmatic - you're a great member of this site by the way.

No regular fan knows what is going on in the studio because they never have produced anything or even been to a studio! And if you have, absolutely nothing on the level of the likes of Dre, Kanye, RZA etc. It is ALL gossip and assumptions.

Look at Kanye West's new album. Not a single track has he produced all by himself. When thinking about it, he said on his twitter that he had worked hard on the Devil in a new dress track and he is not even credited as a producer on that one. In other words, there is so much work behind the music that you and I will never know of.

All I know is that tons of people, who actually know something about producing, praise Dr. Dre as a god. They are not doing that just for fun.

By Kanye West

"Do hip-hop producers hold Dr. Dre in high esteem? It's like asking a Christian if he believes Christ died for his sins. Dre has a whole coast on his back. He discovered Snoop -- one of the two greatest living rappers, along with Jay-Z -- and signed Eminem, 50 Cent and now the Game. He takes artists with great potential and makes them even better. I wonder where I'd be right now if Dre had discovered me.

I remember hearing Dre's music before I really knew who he was. I had a tape of Eazy-E's Eazy-Duz-It when I was ten years old (until my mother found out it had curses on it and confiscated it). I didn't know what "production" was back then, but I knew I loved the music. The more I learned about producing hip-hop, the more I respected what Dre was doing. Think about how on old N.W. A records the beat would change four or five times in a single song. A million people can program beats, but can they put together an entire album like it's a movie?

When I was learning to produce, working in a home studio in my mother's crib, I tried to make beats that sounded exactly like Timbaland's, DJ Premier's, Pete Rock's and, especially, Dr. Dre's. Dre productions like Tupac's "California Love" were just so far beyond what I was doing that I couldn't even comprehend what was going on. I had no idea how to get to that point, how to layer all those instruments. The Chronic is still the hip-hop equivalent to Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life. It's the benchmark you measure your album against if you're serious. But it's "Xxplosive," off 2001, that I got my entire sound from -- if you listen to the track, it's got a soul beat, but it's done with those heavy Dre drums. Listen to "This Can't Be Life," a track I did for Jay-Z's Dynasty album, and then listen to "Xxplosive." It's a direct bite.

I just met Dre for the first time in December -- he asked me to produce a track ("Dreams") for the Game's record. At first I was starstruck, but within thirty minutes I was begging him to mix my next album. He's the definition of a true talent: Dre feels like God placed him here to make music, and no matter what forces are aligned against him, he always ends up on the mountaintop."