Rappers gave their Top-5 Rappers ever(2003)

[xxTrigger1989xx]

So, those with more than 1 vote each are as follows...

Biggie............16
Jay Z.............12
Rakim............11
2Pac..............10
Nas................10
Eminem...........9
Kool G Rap........6
Scarface..........6
KRS-One..........5
Big Daddy Kane...4
Slick Rick..........4
Big Boi.............3
Andre 3000........2
Busta Rhymes.....2
LL Cool J..........2
Ludacris...........2
Nelly...............2
Redman............2
Run DMC..........2
Snoop Dogg.......2
Jadakiss...........2

So, obviously, Biggie had influenced the game more than anyone else at the time and Eminem does not make the overall top 5. Names i rarely hear though which were high were Scarface and Slick Rick.

Biggie was the shit and mad underrated. He never went through really hard times, but he was one of the best storytellers of all time

N***as Bleed is godly

[mecuryball]

So, those with more than 1 vote each are as follows...

Biggie............16
Jay Z.............12
Rakim............11
2Pac..............10
Nas................10
Eminem...........9
Kool G Rap........6
Scarface..........6
KRS-One..........5
Big Daddy Kane...4
Slick Rick..........4
Big Boi.............3
Andre 3000........2
Busta Rhymes.....2
LL Cool J..........2
Ludacris...........2
Nelly...............2
Redman............2
Run DMC..........2
Snoop Dogg.......2
Jadakiss...........2

So, obviously, Biggie had influenced the game more than anyone else at the time and Eminem does not make the overall top 5. Names i rarely hear though which were high were Scarface and Slick Rick.

Biggie was the shit and mad underrated. He never went through really hard times, but he was one of the best storytellers of all time

N***as Bleed is godly

Yeah biggie was dope but wasn't around long enough to prove himself.we all wouldv'e been sayin thesame thing about guys like 50cent if he had died after he released a classic like (Get Rich Or Die Tryin).

[EM1973]

Biggie was one of the Greatest if not the Greatest Story teller and he had in my opinion the 2nd greatest album in Hip-Hop History Live After Death
He is in the most people'sTop-5 because of this..
But his legacy isn't bigger than Em's,Rakim's,Pac's,Nas's....Of caurse he has a big legacy but he isn't greater than them...

[EM1973]

http://books.google.gr/books?id=peyTxxk ... 03&f=false

Here is article which speak about Biggie's selection in the most MC's Top-5 back to 2003

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Biggie was one of the Greatest if not the Greatest Story teller and he had in my opinion the 2nd greatest album in Hip-Hop History Live After Death
He is in the most people'sTop-5 because of this..
But his legacy isn't bigger than Em's,Rakim's,Pac's,Nas's....Of caurse he has a big legacy but he isn't greater than them...

Yeah, just two albums from him

But, both are classics. Life After Death is among my top albums of all time

[dead prez]

Most people are blinded by Jay's achievements and longivity,that's why u ear him mention all the time,plus he's black(no racism)that's what he got ahead of Eminem.we all know if Eminem was black just like Rakim said,he would be placed much higher.
But good to see some of his fellow emcees ActKnowledge his talents.

Wtf, kinda stupid... You really want to play the race card.

[dead prez]

Kanye's first album came out 2004, so no wonder he isn't on anyones list

Because he's not an amazing rapper...as an all around artist, yes, he is great. As a rapper, he is merely good at it. Kanye hasn't written anything like Lose Yourself or 8 Mile. Not saying he can't, but to really put him in top 5, when really he's good at making music and albums, but he's not that great of a rapper, is madness. This Kanye dickriding is getting annoying, and it's not just you (even though you're the king of them) but it's just a few others on this forum. It's almost as annoying as this Lil B shit that all of the sudden just popped up. He made a great (not amazing or classic) album that is being MAD overrated right now

And before you start, I'm not a fucking "hater". I love Kanye's music, especially his recent album which I consider one of my favorites this year just behind Recovery. He's just...not the lyricist or the rapper to stand with the best. He is better than Wayne though, so...yeah, I'll give him that

Oh and there's no Em dickriding in this forum, sheesh.

[dead prez]

of course Eminem won by such an impressive margin, all that does is prove your point about the fans. Also, i think it says something about the age of his fans. Majority of people taking an online music poll are going to be in the 25 and under generation, which garners a large percentage of Eminem's fanbase. Therefore, this poll really means nothing in the big picture. I have to agree that Eminem and 2pac are the two greatest rappers of all time. But to say one is better than the other, is like saying Nirvana is a similar band to Phish. Different time period, same intense passion for the music.

Listen I'm old enough to remember a lot of things about Hip-Hop history.
Tupac is great no doubt because of his impact.I have him in my Top-5 because of his impact.
At 90's before Pac's death nobody in Hip-Hop industry called Pac the GOAT.Names like Big Daddy Kane,LL Cool J,Rakim had this Title.After his death 1996 people started to called Pac GOAT.The same with Biggie after 1997.I don't know your age but if you ask a person age 35-40 he can say to you that.

Look at this now.Eminem after Eminem Show considered the Greatest ever by a lot of people all over the world and he was/is alive.
And for their legacies Tupac "had" Biggie and Biggie "had" Tupac.Their rivalry helped both legacies....
Eminem "had" Eminem.In a class by himself.
In my opinion Em took Hip-Hop from 99'-02' to the highest level ever all over the world.
Tupac and Biggie made a lot for the Hip-Hop mainly at US.
Em made a lot for the game in all over the world...
All over the years Eminem and Tupac have the most fans in Hip-Hop history.But Eminem has very very big advantage outside of US.
In USA it's like 50-50 Em vs Pac.
In all over the world there is no debate.Trust me.Eminem>>>Tupac.By far more fans.

You don't know what you're talking about and just pulling shit ouf of your ass. And notice Em only recently outsold Tupac even though he's been dead for more than ten years.

[dead prez]

In all over the world there is no debate.Trust me.Eminem>>>Tupac.By far more fans.

Not a chance it's as lopsided as you make it seem. In fact there is not a doubt in my mind if you went to hip hop heads all over the world, Tupac would come out on top.

If you go the average music fan who's got no idea of hip hop and was only exposed to it by Eminem who opened the lane for a lot of white people, then perhaps Eminem would win the debate easy. But if you ask hip hop heads who are ardent fans of hip hop, Tupac wins. No contest.

Read what I wrote about legacies.
Then I have to say that if you forget it Eminem is by far more skilled than Tupac,objective.
If you put Em with Pac on the mic Em would destroy Pac.
So if you ask hip hop heads all over the world there is no chance Tupac wins.
And you speak about Hip-Hop heads.If you ask old Hip-Hop heads who know the History of Hip-Hop how many of them do you believe they would consider Pac better than Em?
How many of them would consider Tupac the Greatest before his death?Very few!
You will hear names like KRS-One,Big Daddy Kane,LL Cool J,Rakim and then Pac.
Eminem is greater than Tupac.Tupac was a rebel and rivalry with Big made his legacy bigger.Em has a huge legacy because of his greatness and he is alive and many people called him GOAT even before 8-9 years.
The only reason some Hip-Hop people consider Pac greater than Em is because Em is white.
Some black people can't accept that Em is the Greatest because he is white and almost all Hip-Hop artists are black.

Skill means dick, Big Pun would run raps around prodigy but back in the day Prodigy was very well considered top ten material before he fell the fuck off. It's about who makes better music, as for your last part horrible appeal to motive and your excuse that Eminem is white cnan easily e used against him.

[dead prez]

So, those with more than 1 vote each are as follows...

Biggie............16
Jay Z.............12
Rakim............11
2Pac..............10
Nas................10
Eminem...........9
Kool G Rap........6
Scarface..........6
KRS-One..........5
Big Daddy Kane...4
Slick Rick..........4
Big Boi.............3
Andre 3000........2
Busta Rhymes.....2
LL Cool J..........2
Ludacris...........2
Nelly...............2
Redman............2
Run DMC..........2
Snoop Dogg.......2
Jadakiss...........2

So, obviously, Biggie had influenced the game more than anyone else at the time and Eminem does not make the overall top 5. Names i rarely hear though which were high were Scarface and Slick Rick.

Biggie was the shit and mad underrated. He never went through really hard times, but he was one of the best storytellers of all time

N***as Bleed is godly

Yeah biggie was dope but wasn't around long enough to prove himself.we all wouldv'e been sayin thesame thing about guys like 50cent if he had died after he released a classic like (Get Rich Or Die Tryin).

Hahahahahahaha

[EM1973]

of course Eminem won by such an impressive margin, all that does is prove your point about the fans. Also, i think it says something about the age of his fans. Majority of people taking an online music poll are going to be in the 25 and under generation, which garners a large percentage of Eminem's fanbase. Therefore, this poll really means nothing in the big picture. I have to agree that Eminem and 2pac are the two greatest rappers of all time. But to say one is better than the other, is like saying Nirvana is a similar band to Phish. Different time period, same intense passion for the music.

Listen I'm old enough to remember a lot of things about Hip-Hop history.
Tupac is great no doubt because of his impact.I have him in my Top-5 because of his impact.
At 90's before Pac's death nobody in Hip-Hop industry called Pac the GOAT.Names like Big Daddy Kane,LL Cool J,Rakim had this Title.After his death 1996 people started to called Pac GOAT.The same with Biggie after 1997.I don't know your age but if you ask a person age 35-40 he can say to you that.

Look at this now.Eminem after Eminem Show considered the Greatest ever by a lot of people all over the world and he was/is alive.
And for their legacies Tupac "had" Biggie and Biggie "had" Tupac.Their rivalry helped both legacies....
Eminem "had" Eminem.In a class by himself.
In my opinion Em took Hip-Hop from 99'-02' to the highest level ever all over the world.
Tupac and Biggie made a lot for the Hip-Hop mainly at US.
Em made a lot for the game in all over the world...
All over the years Eminem and Tupac have the most fans in Hip-Hop history.But Eminem has very very big advantage outside of US.
In USA it's like 50-50 Em vs Pac.
In all over the world there is no debate.Trust me.Eminem>>>Tupac.By far more fans.

You don't know what you're talking about and just pulling shit ouf of your ass. And notice Em only recently outsold Tupac even though he's been dead for more than ten years.

I don't know???And who knows you???GTFO.
If you forget it Em's MMLP sold more than any Pac's album in History.
Also 00's are different from 90's.Don't be stupid..Eminem's sales were/are to a generation with internet,downloads.torrents e.t.c..
As I said Pac considered the Greatest after 1996 and his death..Em considered by a lot the Greatest even after the MMLP and he was/is still alive.
Don't use Pac's death as a disadvantage on him.His death overrate him a lot.Biggie's death the same...
If Em died after The Eminem Show you know......
You have nothing to say really...