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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Dec 16th, '10, 18:19

LilWayne4Life wrote:
Words Myth wrote:Kanye, Em, Dr. Dre, Kid Cudi

not Wayne and not Drake....Drake is a flash in the pan and will be over with by, oh say 2012...Wayne...it took Wayne 13 years to become what he is....he's rich but he doesnt define a generation


Your entire post resembles one big bubble of hate.

- Wayne
- Drake
- Kanye
- Eminem
- Lupe/Jay-Z


It wasn't filled with hate lol. He spoke the truth, Drake is a fad that will end when his music becomes stagnant, which it's already starting to, people just don't see it yet. Wayne is the only person in YM who will actually stick around for a while. He didn't even say anything bad about Wayne, except for he doesn't define a generation, and he doesn't. Only three people on your list would define a generation, and that's Em, Kanye, and Jay-Z. Money doesn't equal impact, Wayne's had very little impact on the rap game, compared to Eminem and Jay-Z. Kanye's getting there
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby LilWayne4Life » Dec 16th, '10, 18:25

xxTrigger1989xx wrote:
LilWayne4Life wrote:
Words Myth wrote:Kanye, Em, Dr. Dre, Kid Cudi

not Wayne and not Drake....Drake is a flash in the pan and will be over with by, oh say 2012...Wayne...it took Wayne 13 years to become what he is....he's rich but he doesnt define a generation


Your entire post resembles one big bubble of hate.

- Wayne
- Drake
- Kanye
- Eminem
- Lupe/Jay-Z


It wasn't filled with hate lol. He spoke the truth, Drake is a fad that will end when his music becomes stagnant, which it's already starting to, people just don't see it yet. Wayne is the only person in YM who will actually stick around for a while. He didn't even say anything bad about Wayne, except for he doesn't define a generation, and he doesn't. Only three people on your list would define a generation, and that's Em, Kanye, and Jay-Z. Money doesn't equal impact, Wayne's had very little impact on the rap game, compared to Eminem and Jay-Z. Kanye's getting there


Drake is no where close to being "over" he built a incredible fan base on his own INTERNATIONALLY, not just the states. When people mention there top rappers drake is ALREADY mentioned. Wayne not only defines a generation he is the definition of rap in todays world. The young generation is influenced and want to rap like wayne. Like i said his post was full of hate. Why would it matter if it took wayne 13 years to be where he is? how many rapeprs can you name 13 years ago that is still relevant as wayne? you can count them in one hand.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby FreeSpeech » Dec 16th, '10, 18:31

Hey, I mean, thanks to all the haters Drake knows G4 pilots on a first name basis...
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby Almostlity » Dec 16th, '10, 18:43

Drake sold like 50-60k WW (first week)

Huge fanbase.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby FreeSpeech » Dec 16th, '10, 18:49

Almostlity wrote:Drake sold like 50-60k WW (first week)

Huge fanbase.

He sold 447,000. Big difference...
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby Almostlity » Dec 16th, '10, 18:55

slimshady10 wrote:
Almostlity wrote:Drake sold like 50-60k WW (first week)

Huge fanbase.

He sold 447,000. Big difference...


in US.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby FreeSpeech » Dec 16th, '10, 19:02

Almostlity wrote:
slimshady10 wrote:
Almostlity wrote:Drake sold like 50-60k WW (first week)

Huge fanbase.

He sold 447,000. Big difference...


in US.

I mean, who really cares what nationality is bumping you? The US is pretty much the homeland of hip hop, I'd be more worried if most of his sales WEREN'T in the US. Sales have a lot to do with marketing and whatnot too.

In the end, 447,000 records is 447,000 records. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby Almostlity » Dec 16th, '10, 19:05

slimshady10 wrote:I mean, who really cares what nationality is bumping you? The US is pretty much the homeland of hip hop, I'd be more worried if most of his sales WEREN'T in the US. Sales have a lot to do with marketing and whatnot too.

In the end, 447,000 records is 447,000 records. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.


LilWayne4Life wrote:Drake is no where close to being "over" he built a incredible fan base on his own INTERNATIONALLY, not just the states. When people mention there top rappers drake is ALREADY mentioned. Wayne not only defines a generation he is the definition of rap in todays world. The young generation is influenced and want to rap like wayne. Like i said his post was full of hate. Why would it matter if it took wayne 13 years to be where he is? how many rapeprs can you name 13 years ago that is still relevant as wayne? you can count them in one hand.


50k ain't that incredible imo lol
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby classthe_king » Dec 16th, '10, 19:09

slimshady10 wrote:I mean, who really cares what nationality is bumping you? The US is pretty much the homeland of hip hop, I'd be more worried if most of his sales WEREN'T in the US. Sales have a lot to do with marketing and whatnot too.

In the end, 447,000 records is 447,000 records. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.


A wise man said men lie, women lie but numbers don't
And I believe him cause that lie was fucking dope
But then I started thinkin and the thing about it is
Numbers might not lie but sometimes they tell fibs
Cause if you take the numbers for real and add em up
You would see that rappers twice as good is gettin half as much



That's the truth
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby Almostlity » Dec 16th, '10, 19:11

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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby classthe_king » Dec 16th, '10, 19:20

LilWayne4Life wrote:Wayne not only defines a generation he is the definition of rap in todays world. The young generation is influenced and want to rap like wayne.



That's why Hip-Hop is in the fucking shitter right now? You just keep on proving on your own why Lil Wayne sucks so much lmao
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby LilWayne4Life » Dec 16th, '10, 19:24

Almostlity wrote:
slimshady10 wrote:I mean, who really cares what nationality is bumping you? The US is pretty much the homeland of hip hop, I'd be more worried if most of his sales WEREN'T in the US. Sales have a lot to do with marketing and whatnot too.

In the end, 447,000 records is 447,000 records. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't.


LilWayne4Life wrote:Drake is no where close to being "over" he built a incredible fan base on his own INTERNATIONALLY, not just the states. When people mention there top rappers drake is ALREADY mentioned. Wayne not only defines a generation he is the definition of rap in todays world. The young generation is influenced and want to rap like wayne. Like i said his post was full of hate. Why would it matter if it took wayne 13 years to be where he is? how many rapeprs can you name 13 years ago that is still relevant as wayne? you can count them in one hand.


50k ain't that incredible imo lol


Drake has sold out concerts (10,000+) in the U.S, Canada, UK & australia

TML is certified platinum in canada and has entered the charts in

Australian
Canadian
Dutch
French
German
Irish
New Zealand
South African
Swiss
UK
UK
US

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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby FreeSpeech » Dec 16th, '10, 19:28

classthe_king wrote:A wise man said men lie, women lie but numbers don't
And I believe him cause that lie was fucking dope
But then I started thinkin and the thing about it is
Numbers might not lie but sometimes they tell fibs
Cause if you take the numbers for real and add em up
You would see that rappers twice as good is gettin half as much



That's the truth


Prince EA's dope, but he's also a whiny bitch. He whined when he didn't win some online contest, he disses Wayne and other dudes in his songs since he's mad he isn't getting paid. His friend Wax is much more likable, he's dope and admits he loves Wayne and Hova. He has a song called "Lil Wayne Diss" or something like that, and then in the video description it says "Sike, Weezy's dope!" or something like that. He can give props where they're due.

And yeah Amostlity, I didn't see where the dude said he was huge internationally, I agree, he's not. Didn't even break top 10 in the UK. But he's huge here, which is really all that matters.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby classthe_king » Dec 16th, '10, 19:33

slimshady10 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:A wise man said men lie, women lie but numbers don't
And I believe him cause that lie was fucking dope
But then I started thinkin and the thing about it is
Numbers might not lie but sometimes they tell fibs
Cause if you take the numbers for real and add em up
You would see that rappers twice as good is gettin half as much



That's the truth


Prince EA's dope, but he's also a whiny bitch. He whined when he didn't win some online contest, he disses Wayne and other dudes in his songs since he's mad he isn't getting paid. His friend Wax is much more likable, he's dope and admits he loves Wayne and Hova. He has a song called "Lil Wayne Diss" or something like that, and then in the video description it says "Sike, Weezy's dope!" or something like that. He can give props where they're due.


No...he whined because he did win the Online contest but then still wasn't chosen to go on the BET Cypher, which is understandable. And so what if Wax admits he likes Wayne? What's that have to do anything. He's not giving credit where they're due. Lil Wayne is awful, he's just saying that to get fans, just like Eminem.
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Re: Current Rap Artists Who Are Bigger Than Rap

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Dec 16th, '10, 19:50

Wayne didn't get really popular 'til somewhere in between Tha Carter 2 and 3. I don't count that as "defining a generation"

Eminem had ten times the impact Wayne did
Jay-Z is definitely bigger than Wayne, arguably the biggest rapper in the world right now
Kanye is a true artist, beyond a rapper

Wayne...just raps. There's nothing special about him, except that he shot himself with his own gun, showing just how special he really is :laughing:
He has some dope lines here and there, but overall, the fact remains that he is an average rapper. The majority of real hip hop heads would laugh in your fucking face if you said Wayne was the GOAT and "defined a generation" as well as being "bigger than rap" lol
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