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Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Eminem has the bigger impact ever
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Tupac & Biggie have the bigger impact ever
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Jay-Z & Nas have the bigger impact ever
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Rakim & LL Cool J have the bigger impact ever
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Someone else has the bigger impact ever
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby EM1973 » Dec 22nd, '10, 00:34

KillahBee wrote:I really dont't know, Em broke allkinds of barriers and is one of the first mainstream emcees to prove that rap isn't all about money and women, but I think the influence Rakim had is unparrelelled simply because pretty much every rapper to this day is influenced by him. Easiest way I can put it, Rakim had a bigger influence on the hip hop community, whereas Em had a bigger impact on a wider scale

This is a good post..Rakim was the teacher but my point to give Eminem the "bigger impact" is that made Hip-Hop a giant all over the world and many people learned and loved Ηip-Hop because of Marshall Bruce Mathers III.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby Master Chief » Dec 22nd, '10, 00:49

I think I would say yes.

But, that doesn't mean he's influenced as many rappers as 2Pac has.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Dec 22nd, '10, 02:00

Excellent topic, cheers to OP. :y:

i say yes because in todays time, and when eminem was in his prime, lyrically and public image wise, he's been a HUGE impact ever since he came out.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby mdemaz » Dec 22nd, '10, 02:08

I'd have to say golden age artists like Ice-T, cool J, Rakim, Beastie boys, vanilla ice and N.W.A..
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby Gorila » Dec 22nd, '10, 03:09

mdemaz wrote:I'd have to say golden age artists like Ice-T, cool J, Rakim, Beastie boys, vanilla ice and N.W.A..
:confusion: Vanilla Ice???? The rest of your list is fine its just that i find it hard to accept Vanilla Ice as in impact artist.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 22nd, '10, 03:39

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Slill_Slim_Shady wrote:I'll say yes, becouse Em made the whites start listen rap!!!!


Well that's just ridiculous and offensive.

This notion that what, no white people listened to hip-hop music before a white guy did it? lmfao. How absurd. Do you seriously think white people don't listen to black artists?

How do you think Eminem / white rappers got into it?

He may of made white teenie bopper girls listen to it, but white people were listening to fucking hip-hop before Eminem came.



You're ignorant if you can't admit Em introduced a lot of white people to rap music. I'm one of them.


Did I say Em introduced zero white people to rap?

Get your facts right before calling me fucking ignorant. My point was, PLENTY of white people listened to rap BEFORE Eminem also.

Ever heard of the fucking Beastie Boys? and they were in the 80s for fuck sake. And people like 2Pac couldn't of realistically done those numbers without a lot of white people having bought his shit too.

Em may of introduced white people around the world to it, because he reached more people, including America - but this guy / like others, was seemingly implying Eminem is the sole reason white people know about rap music, as if millions didn't already listen lmao.

I got news for you, most white people don't buy music according to skin colour. So just like a ton of black people thought 2Pac and Redman were amazing, so did a ton of white people. Eminem introduced it to a wider audience period - INCLUDING a wider BLACK audience. But people need to stop defining success, character and audiences by colour anyway. It's a big, fail.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby Eazy-GFX » Dec 22nd, '10, 03:48

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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby Emadyville » Dec 22nd, '10, 04:45

TheGentlePlayer wrote:Where is Young Money? :facepalm


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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby mdemaz » Dec 22nd, '10, 04:51

Gorila wrote:
mdemaz wrote:I'd have to say golden age artists like Ice-T, cool J, Rakim, Beastie boys, vanilla ice and N.W.A..
:confusion: Vanilla Ice???? The rest of your list is fine its just that i find it hard to accept Vanilla Ice as in impact artist.

Lol me nether but he was half gimmick half real rap you know...Before he blew up anyway! XD
But mainly all the def jam rappers and I forgot run D.M.C..
But if you want my opinion on who brought hardcore rap to mainstream it would have to be doctor dre's artists he produced for.
Snoop and Ice cube etc...Who impacted the world would defiantly be eminem.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby shadyboymez » Dec 22nd, '10, 05:27

TheGentlePlayer wrote:Where is Young Money? :facepalm


right where they belong, not on the list .. if you truly believe that Young Money will play a bigger role in rap history than Eminem, or anyone else mentioned there...than vote for the "someone else" option

i voted Tupac & Biggie ... because they are two people who both played a major role in the entire rap game, one from the east and one from the west. Eminem is only one person, and sure he himself did a massive amount for rap music and its fan base, i think 2pac and Biggie together have had more of an impact.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby Ice_Scarred » Dec 22nd, '10, 05:30

Really? Eminem made impact I would say. Especially in opening the door for other White rappers. But the biggest impact? Ummm...no. Sorry. Most hip-hop heads would agree.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby VenomBlackViper » Dec 22nd, '10, 06:19

Eminem aint the only one big overseas, a shit ton of people overseas know snoop dogg too. When I went to France people over there thought of snoop whenever hip hop was brought up. But I voted for eminem, wait till he dies and he'll be regarded greater than tupac & biggie.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby N.W.A. » Dec 22nd, '10, 09:09

Em is one of the best, but no. Run DMC, Public Enemy, NWA, Eric B & Rakim, Pac, Biggie. They changed things, The Chronic changed things. Much bigger impact.
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby dead prez » Dec 22nd, '10, 13:49

Let's be honest A LOT of white people bought Eminem's shit because he was more relatable to Pac, Biggie, etc. He took an interesting spin on the material he rapped about, but many people like to believe he was doing something innovative in Hip Hop. A lot of topics he rapped about was done before in different degrees, and let's act like he didn't get more attention from the white population because of his skin color.

I guess if you're talking about impact and pushing Hip Hop to become more main stream than yeah, but innovative ness no. Rakim was more of a teacher, and I'd say Biggie, Pac, and Nas influenced more rappers than he has yet...
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Re: Has Eminem the bigger impact in Hip-Hop History?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 22nd, '10, 15:52

How people like Nas are in the options but Run DMC, Daddy Kane and Scarface aren't.. I'll never know. Surely for impacts, you have to consider the pioneers?
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