Illmatic & All Eyez on Me accolades

[Master Chief]

Albums like Paid in Full,Mama said knock you out,Live After Death,MMLP are in the discussion with Illmatic for the Greatest album ever in Hip-Hop.
All have very big impact in the Hip-Hop.

Mama Said Knock You Out? Really? There are a million albums better than that. And smh @ you for not including a Pac album. Me Against The World > that whole list except MMLP.

[dead prez]

^^ You should have at least used R2D for Big, it seems like you're going by commercial success. Whereas the albums I listed aren't that commercially successful (certainly not Word..life) except Enter 36 chambers, oh and Deltron3030 (amazing album) is also on illmatic's level.

[EM1973]

Albums like Paid in Full,Mama said knock you out,Live After Death,MMLP are in the discussion with Illmatic for the Greatest album ever in Hip-Hop.
All have very big impact in the Hip-Hop.

Mama Said Knock You Out? Really? There are a million albums better than that. And smh @ you for not including a Pac album. Me Against The World > that whole list except MMLP.

Paid in Full>>any Pac's album and it's not even close.And how the hell are million albums better thaN MSKYO?Live After Death is a diamond!
Which of Pac's album is Top-5 objectively?Top-10 maybe yes,Top-5 no.
Pac has bigger impact than Big overall but Live After Death>>>any Pac's album.

[dead prez]

Why do you keep going by sales to determine an album's worth? Tons of albums that sold dick are classics and better than albums that sold well.

[EM1973]

Fuck the sales.Which of these albums isn't great?

[Master Chief]

Albums like Paid in Full,Mama said knock you out,Live After Death,MMLP are in the discussion with Illmatic for the Greatest album ever in Hip-Hop.
All have very big impact in the Hip-Hop.

Mama Said Knock You Out? Really? There are a million albums better than that. And smh @ you for not including a Pac album. Me Against The World > that whole list except MMLP.

Paid in Full>>any Pac's album and it's not even close.And how the hell are million albums better that MSKYO?Live After Death is a diamond!
Which of Pac's album is Top-5 objectively?Top-10 maybe yes,Top-5 no.
Pac has bigger impact than Big overall but Live After Death>>>any Pac's album.

I hate Paid In Full personally, overrated because of impact. MSKYO is good but so are plenty other Hip-Hop albums. And lmao @ you pointing out that LIFE After Death went Diamond. SALES DON'T MATTER. I guess we can safely say that Tha Carter 3 >>> Illmatic considering C3 is 3x platinum and Illmatic is just platinum.

Pac's Killuminati & MATW are classics and are definitely either top 10 or top 5 material. Oh and Life After Death has a lot of fillers. All Eyez On Me = Life After Death, i'll give you that but Me Against the World & Killumniati are way better that LAF. Now, R2D is a different story. That album is just as good if not slightly better than those two.

[dead prez]

Fuck the sales.Which of these albums isn't great?

I didn't say any of them weren't good, but you using sales to try and prove their wort is retarded.

Anyways albums on illmatic's level

Stunts, Blunts and Hip Hop
The Infamous
Sun Rises in the East
Deltron 3030
Straight outta compton
Amerikkka's most wanted
Dah Shinin
Word...Life
The Score
Dr. Octagonecologyst
Ready 2 die
The Chronic

etc. you get gist, granted it's arguable none of these albums are better (I do prefer some over illmatic) but illmatic isn't so far ahead of these albums that it puts these to shame.

[Master Chief]

Death Is Certain - Royce Da 5'9" >>>>>

[EM1973]

I hate Paid In Full personally, overrated because of impact. MSKYO is good but so are plenty other Hip-Hop albums. And lmao @ you pointing out that LIFE After Death went Diamond. SALES DON'T MATTER. I guess we can safely say that Tha Carter 3 >>> Illmatic considering C3 is 3x platinum and Illmatic is just platinum.

Pac's Killuminati & MATW are classics and are definitely either top 10 or top 5 material. Oh and Life After Death has a lot of fillers. All Eyez On Me = Life After Death, i'll give you that but Me Against the World & Killumniati are way better that LAF. Now, R2D is a different story. That album is just as good if not slightly better than those two.

Who speaks about sales??
Paid in Full it doesn't matter if you don't like objectively is far more important album for the Hip-Hop than any of Pac's.Pac knew that!Rakim was his idol.
"Life After Death had something for everyone on there. It was more universal and you could definitely hear the difference [from Ready to Die]. He was enjoying life more on this album. That album set a higher standard in the game forever."
I can't tell it better than the young MC.

At Mama said Knock you out LL had a lot to prove and this album was so much great.Fantasic lyrics,vocals,music.

[classthe_king]

What the hell happened to this forum?

It seems like now even the smart people are dumb.

[dead prez]

What the hell happened to this forum?

It seems like now even the smart people are dumb.

Wtf are you talking about, and which smart people are you referring to?

[classthe_king]

Everyone is trying to pretend like they know Hip-Hop by bringing up "classics" but they're horrible arguing tactics show they really don't know what they're talking about and are just hiding behind albums and artists that they think will make them look smart.

And btw, SIHKIH is not only the best Jedi Mind Tricks album but IMO the greatest Hip-Hop album of all time. It's the closest album to being perfect I have ever heard.

[dead prez]

Hope you're not referring to me, cause that's some ballsy accusation right there mate.

Oh and Deltron 3030 takes a dump on that album.

[classthe_king]

Del The Funkee Homosapien?

I've never listened to that album but I've listened to his work before and that right there was a ballsy statement.

[dead prez]

Well considering that's his best album, you should definitely give it a listen everything from lyrics, to production was top notch.