First Single Face-Off

[xxTrigger1989xx]

So, now that we know that Cocaine was going to be the first single for the "emotionally driven" Relapse 2 (which would later turn in to Recovery), do you think that Cocaine would have been a better first single than Not Afraid? And, if you'd like, you can share which song you personally think is better and why

Mods, if this doesn't belong here, feel free to move it. But I've seen a million of these types of threads that remain in the main Eminem section, so...that's why I posted it here

[christalgurl]

I prefer Not Afraid. It's more inspirational and just a better way to represent what he wanted people to see of this "recovered" Em.

[Master Chief]

Cocaine > Not Afraid. But, as a single Not Afraid is better.

[Elision]

Not Afraid. It fit the whole theme much better.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Cocaine > Not Afraid. But, as a single Not Afraid is better.

Yeah, I pretty much agree. Though had he stuck with Cocaine, he might not have alienated some of his fans that didn't take kindly to Not Afraid lol

[EminemBase]

Well nobody knows that "Cocaine" was going to be the 1st single lol.

Also, people keep saying for Relapse 2... stylistically and content-wise - that song is Recovery. So you can call it Relapse 2 but it's trivial to call it that because it obviously came when he had re-shaped his style and ideas anyway, so it's Recovery lmao.

The 'new' Relapse 2 was Recovery at that time, he just didn't tell us it was called Recovery yet.

And, we don't know it was going to be the 1st single either. I can't see how it would be. The chorus is hardly catchy, it's a spacious, blur of a chorus and the two verses are snappy, lyrical verses which sound more like album verse. It doesn't really have a direct theme, can't imagine that it was going to the be 1st single for anything.

Also, people get over-familiar with singles and just the very fact it's a single and you have that perception... I bet you that no matter what was a single people would get sick of it and eventually say they hate it anyway lmao. If "Not Afraid" was an album track, most the people who say they hate it, probably wouldn't say that they hate it.

[cocaine2011]

NOT AFRAID>>>>>>>>> Cocaine


'Not Afraid is really a hit single. Talking about his demons, and drugs.


Cocaine is talking about his selling his soul for fame, or getting famous.

Like Careful What you wish for and my darling, he talks about how fame isn't what he pictured it to be.


NOT afraid is genius, perfect #1 single for Recovery.

[mdemaz]

Not afraid> Cocaine.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Well nobody knows that "Cocaine" was going to be the 1st single lol.

Also, people keep saying for Relapse 2... stylistically and content-wise - that song is Recovery. So you can call it Relapse 2 but it's trivial to call it that because it obviously came when he had re-shaped his style and ideas anyway, so it's Recovery lmao.

The 'new' Relapse 2 was Recovery at that time, he just didn't tell us it was called Recovery yet.

And, we don't know it was going to be the 1st single either. I can't see how it would be. The chorus is hardly catchy, it's a spacious, blur of a chorus and the two verses are snappy, lyrical verses which sound more like album verse. It doesn't really have a direct theme, can't imagine that it was going to the be 1st single for anything.

Well, not for sure, but it's really the only info we have on it right now lol

But yeah, I mean, Relapse 2 IS Recovery, but I just separate them because it was referred to as Relapse 2 until Not Afraid was announced

[EminemBase]

Well nobody knows that "Cocaine" was going to be the 1st single lol.

Also, people keep saying for Relapse 2... stylistically and content-wise - that song is Recovery. So you can call it Relapse 2 but it's trivial to call it that because it obviously came when he had re-shaped his style and ideas anyway, so it's Recovery lmao.

The 'new' Relapse 2 was Recovery at that time, he just didn't tell us it was called Recovery yet.

And, we don't know it was going to be the 1st single either. I can't see how it would be. The chorus is hardly catchy, it's a spacious, blur of a chorus and the two verses are snappy, lyrical verses which sound more like album verse. It doesn't really have a direct theme, can't imagine that it was going to the be 1st single for anything.

Well, not for sure, but it's really the only info we have on it right now lol

But yeah, I mean, Relapse 2 IS Recovery, but I just separate them because it was referred to as Relapse 2 until Not Afraid was announced

Well Relapse 2 isn't Recovery.

Relapse 2 was a continuation of Relapse and a batch of songs he basically had ready to go anyway. People keep saying there was no tracklist so therefore there wasn't an album but that's nonsense, he said he had it 95% ready to go right after Relapse.

But, that song - Cocaine, is Recovery. It's emotional, self-aware and realistic and stylistically would slot right on Recovery. Anything from the sessions with new Dre about killing people = Relapse / 1 + 2. Anything from the new producer sessions with Em rapping about drugs / fame = Recovery.

[Static]

I would actually like Cocaine better (if it was finished, aka. had a third verse and was mastered), I think it could've made a cooler music video too. I like the content of Cocaine better. But ohwell, Not Afraid is awesome too. And the fact that I've heard Not Afraid so many times that I could write it down word for word might have a slight impact on my opinion. I'm kinda tired of it.

[kindafeelslikedejavu]

Well nobody knows that "Cocaine" was going to be the 1st single lol.

Also, people keep saying for Relapse 2... stylistically and content-wise - that song is Recovery. So you can call it Relapse 2 but it's trivial to call it that because it obviously came when he had re-shaped his style and ideas anyway, so it's Recovery lmao.

The 'new' Relapse 2 was Recovery at that time, he just didn't tell us it was called Recovery yet.

And, we don't know it was going to be the 1st single either. I can't see how it would be. The chorus is hardly catchy, it's a spacious, blur of a chorus and the two verses are snappy, lyrical verses which sound more like album verse. It doesn't really have a direct theme, can't imagine that it was going to the be 1st single for anything.

Well, not for sure, but it's really the only info we have on it right now lol

But yeah, I mean, Relapse 2 IS Recovery, but I just separate them because it was referred to as Relapse 2 until Not Afraid was announced

Well Relapse 2 isn't Recovery.

Relapse 2 was a continuation of Relapse and a batch of songs he basically had ready to go anyway. People keep saying there was no tracklist so therefore there wasn't an album but that's nonsense, he said he had it 95% ready to go right after Relapse.

But, that song - Cocaine, is Recovery. It's emotional, self-aware and realistic and stylistically would slot right on Recovery. Anything from the sessions with new Dre about killing people = Relapse / 1 + 2. Anything from the new producer sessions with Em rapping about drugs / fame = Recovery.

No, everything with dre about killing people was for relapse 1. relapse 2 was not supposed to be the same theme as relapse 1, as em said him self before relapse was released that relapse was more slim shady and r2 was more em/marshall. others who heard the 2nd album were also quoted saying that relapse 2 was going to be even better than relapse 1. i'll edit in sources when i have time to find them online.

[Lundra]

How is cocaine from Relapse 2 when he actually sounds good and has a good flow with no accent...
Plus it's Alex Da Kidd witch he worked with during Recovery..

[BigBangBazinga]

Not afraid> Cocaine.

[EminemBase]

No, everything with dre about killing people was for relapse 1. relapse 2 was not supposed to be the same theme as relapse 1, as em said him self before relapse was released that relapse was more slim shady and r2 was more em/marshall. others who heard the 2nd album were also quoted saying that relapse 2 was going to be even better than relapse 1. i'll edit in sources when i have time to find them online.

That's not true. All the songs with Dre were done in the same sessions.

I think you'll find when people asked Em to describe Relapse 2 (before the change) he said it was 'more of the same shit' as Relapse 1. It was a continuation, not a different album. Hence it being a sequel and... not a different album.

Mr. Porter also referenced "Talking My Ball" when he was asked what the Relapse 2 tracks were like. He said it was a lot of material like that. And, things like "Buffalo Bill" were intended for Relapse 2 and they're EXACTLY like Relapse.

"Cocaine" is like Recovery. Relapse 2, was like Relapse.

Em even said himself that the reason Recovery became Recovery, was because the material was so different to Relapse / Relapse 2 material. So it deserved its own title. "Cocaine" sounds like Recovery. People seem to think that... he just altered Relapse 2 and then called it Recovery...

Recovery is not a new title for Relapse 2, it's a different album. Relapse 2 wasn't like Recovery and it wouldn't of had "Cocaine" on it, "Cocaine" is a Recovery track.