Em Still Adjusting To New Producers/Beats?

[MikeNUFC]

I think this may be a reason for some of his weaker verses and some of his lacklustre flows of late, especially when he ends the bar in the middle of the sentence.

He's obviously been used to Dre's production for years now - his flows on Relapse were far superior to anything he's done of late (although still not as good as his prime) - and I think this is due to his newer choice of beats, which he's still adjusting to and is effecting his flows and, in some cases, making his rhymes more forced.

Based on what I've heard in interviews and the like, it seems Em is hearing these newer beats and ganining inspiration from then and then writing his verses TO the beat. In the SSLP/MMLP days he, most of the time, wrote lines/verses all the time BEFORE hearing a beat and THEN crafted alread-written lines to that beat.

I'm not sure how he did it on TES but those were mostly his own beats so it's pretty different.

I feel these beats are holding him back slighlty as he's trying to craft rhymes and flows around beats he's not accustomed to, rather than having more natural flows and rhymes pre-written, which he can then fit around the production.

It's almost as if he's letting the production control his verses at times.

Thoughts?

[*shadysoldier*]

I think that he just needs to rap over his and Dre's beats.

[Mikey1990]

he needs to use beats like Difficult & Going Thru Changes
the beats on Recovery were not great

[M15HKA]

Been saying this for a long time. Hence why i think he should go back to producing some of his own beats too. Not completley go back to using his own beats and Dre's but predominantly that. It is a working formula. At times he seems very hit and miss on beat selection.

[cityfan31]

I think he needs a balance.

There's been some great successes (Cold Wind Blows, Goin Thru Changes, Seduction, Almost Famous, LTWYL) but also some shit (Won't Back Down, Not Afraid, INAD).

I love em's own production and Dre beats obviously so he needs to be very careful which beats he picks from other producers.

If i was Em right now, in light of all these leaks I would lock myself down in my own studio, make my own beats, stop shouting/doing stupid accents, making corny punchlines and produce a classic album myself. He is capable of it.

[TheGentlePlayer]

Why you guys always complaining?

[accutub]

Only shady aftermath beats!

[cityfan31]

Why you guys always complaining?

I think we're just discussing things - I love Relapse, Recovery, post-recovery stuff. I love it all. You can't say we haven't had variety over the past 2 years but I think a completely Em only Album would be sick.

[Rash J]

If i was Em right now, in light of all these leaks I would lock myself down in my own studio, make my own beats, stop shouting/doing stupid accents, making corny punchlines and produce a classic album myself. He is capable of it.

Yeah. But what you'll see him do is jump on a beat by producers like Swizz, have will.i.am on it and yell out stupid punchlines

[Slill_Slim_Shady]

but also some shit (Won't Back Down, Not Afraid, INAD).

What??? INAD has a lame beat??? Fuck no, the beat maybe is not the best but it's deff. not wack!!!!

[ajthongbam]

You're right man. I think he can show off everything of himself on beats like Going through Changes'. And the beat was very eminem-ish. Some beats he's been rapping on lately are controlling him. If he keeps the production all to Dre, himself, the problem with the new flow will be solved.

Anyway, what happened to the bass brothers? I think they are the best producers em has ever worked with.

[cityfan31]

but also some shit (Won't Back Down, Not Afraid, INAD).

What??? INAD has a lame beat??? Fuck no, the beat maybe is not the best but it's deff. not wack!!!!

Maybe I don't like it because it isn't mastered. I also don't think that beat belongs on Detox

[TheGentlePlayer]

but also some shit (Won't Back Down, Not Afraid, INAD).

What??? INAD has a lame beat??? Fuck no, the beat maybe is not the best but it's deff. not wack!!!!

Maybe I don't like it because it isn't mastered. I also don't think that beat belongs on Detox

INAD is for Detox

[GibbzyTrShady]

The man shud do what makes him happy, and yano what no matter what some people will love what he does an some ppl will hate it being where he is i dont think ide give two shits ide just make music i want to hear and odviosly hes liked all the beats he's chose so bascially yall needta stop bitching about every little thing he does or doesn't do an either enjoy his music as your odvioulsy fans or find something else to do with your time than bitch about eminem's Beat choice/accent/bars/ etc

[DanWS]

I don't think a lot of his new stuff has sucked because of the beat or because he's trying to get used to it. I think it's just the fact that he has run out of things to say. On Recovery he worked with new producers and was brilliant (in my opinion).