My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy vs Recovery

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Both great albums. But if I were to look at how many plays each album I have made, Recovery wins. Whether that's cuz Em is my favourite artist or not I dunno, maybe. But at the end of the day if I've played it more then surely that means I've gotten more out of it/enjoyed it more than I did MBDTF. I stopped listening to Recovery for a few months but lately I've been listening to it again and it's made me appreciate it all over again. At the moment I'm barely playing MBDTF but who knows maybe in a couple months I'll start spinning it once more. I still think it might be too early for me to decide just how good each album is.

I switch between the two often, I love both, but I play Recovery more

[OMEGA]

I care more about Recovery's content, and it slaughters Kanye's album in terms of lyrics. That's what I care about in albums.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

MBDTF - The most overrated album of all time of ALL TIME

Kanye West - the most overrated rapper of all time

This and Kanye is so commercial, he makes collabs with every fucking pop star that he has chance to, a big part of his songs maybe are good produced but are so unpointless!!!!
BTW @uscarred i thought i'm the only one here

Unpointless?
That's a new word I guess, but that means it's not pointless, AKA it has a point.
You lose.

[Almostlity]

MBDTF - The most overrated album of all time of ALL TIME

Kanye West - the most overrated rapper of all time

This and Kanye is so commercial, he makes collabs with every fucking pop star that he has chance to, a big part of his songs maybe are good produced but are so unpointless!!!!
BTW @uscarred i thought i'm the only one here

*shrug Eminem *shrug

[MikeNUFC]

I love how hip-hop fans destroy Eminem for working with Rihanna but it's fine for Jay-Z/Kanye to do it. Plus Em actaully had a good reason to put Rihanna on LTWYL - it's not just a random hook.

On topic, I've actaully got into MBDTF lately. The production is out of this world and it's enjoyable in parts. Still think it's disgustingly overrated though and I prefer Recovery by a long shot.

This is the kinda bullshit rhymes that puts me off:

She find pictures in my email
I sent this girl a picture of my dick
I don't know what it is with females
But I'm not too good with that shit

I hate how Kanye is always prasied for being "artistic" - half his "artistry" is just pretentious bullshit or terrible rhymes that he can cover up as being "artistic"

[TheGentlePlayer]

^^
these two bars was awfull

[xxTrigger1989xx]

MBDTF - The most overrated album of all time of ALL TIME

Kanye West - the most overrated rapper of all time

This and Kanye is so commercial, he makes collabs with every fucking pop star that he has chance to, a big part of his songs maybe are good produced but are so unpointless!!!!
BTW @uscarred i thought i'm the only one here

*shrug Eminem *shrug

Rihanna actually had a purpose for her to be on LTWYL though. It was proper for the concept of the song, he chose the best girl he could have for that particular song because of the Chris Brown incident. It's Eminem's sense of irony

Whereas a big problem with MBDTF is it's LOADED with features from a lot of bullshit artists like Fergie and Rick Ross. That's not to say I don't like the album, I do, but I'm just trying to prove a point

Like Mike said, it's kinda dumb when Eminem can't feature Rihanna (when the song itself is actually very good) without being called pop or whatever, but other rappers can like Jay and Kanye. It's bullshit and it's just another excuse for people to hate Em

[ShadyNarkoticz]

She find pictures in my email
I sent this girl a picture of my dick
I don't know what it is with females
But I'm not too good with that shit

I liked the edited version more: "I sent this girl a picture of my HEY!"

MBDTF & Recovery are two COMPLETELY different albums. I love both to death but they aren't the same to even be compared, other than being popular. Recovery is lyrically insane, one of his best lyrically and no mainstream artist can even begin to touch his skill and it's one of my favorite albums. MBDTF is an amazing album from start to finish. Kanye doesn't need to be all "lyrical, syllable, miracle" to get his story and his point across on this album.

If we are going by sheer playability, I can put MBDTF on from start to finish and not even think about skipping tracks but I can't with Recovery, since a month after it's release. I just got bored with it. MBDTF tells an amazing story from start to finish and it plays out like watching a movie and you don't skip scenes while watching a movie. It's kinda like Illmatic to me, I can't just listen to one track off of Illmatic.

"Runaway", years from now, will EASILY go down as one of the best hip-hop songs ever.

[OMEGA]

I see Kanye more like an entertainer than a real rapper. I mean, every time I see someone praising MBDTF and saying "lyrics are great!" they use the pussy in sarcophagus line, as if it was something extraordinary. Really? And people dare to call some of the Recovery lines corny? What the fuck....

Sometimes when listening to Kanye albums I wonder what a lyrical beast like Nas or Em could do to those beats.

I fucking love MBDTF from beginning to end, but there's no point in comparing it with Recovery.

[Master Chief]

The way I judge albums is: 90 % lyrics, 10 % music so it is Recovery any day of the week for me. I'm a hip hop fan so I honestly couldn't care less about beats if you're not saying anything of any real importance or relevance.

Exactly this.

MBDTF is the most overrated album of all time. Recovery completely slaughters MBDTF so badly that it brings a tear to my eye to see so many people entitled to their opinions favoring MBDTF.

[NicoleEM]

"It's not about lyrics anymore..."and he is right lol.But to me it is about lyrics and i listened to MBDTF (twice!) and i deleted it.As good as the beats are,i'm not gonna listen to a cd that has no replay value FOR ME,just cause everyone else sais it's great.Sowwy i choose Recovery overy MBDTF anyday.

[1TS OK4Y]

i remember the days in which eminem made good lyrics and good music

[1TS OK4Y]

The way I judge albums is: 90 % lyrics, 10 % music so it is Recovery any day of the week for me. I'm a hip hop fan so I honestly couldn't care less about beats if you're not saying anything of any real importance or relevance.

Exactly this.

MBDTF is the most overrated album of all time. Recovery completely slaughters MBDTF so badly that it brings a tear to my eye to see so many people entitled to their opinions favoring MBDTF.

i don't know how any one, hip hop or not, could like good lyrics and shitty music over just good music iwth decent lyrics.

it's like...why don't you listen to recovery at it's lowest quality if you don't care about how the music sounds..

[Hiphopdane]

it's like...why don't you listen to recovery at it's lowest quality if you don't care about how the music sounds..

Ehm, no one said that they don't care about music. What I said was that I don't care about beats if the lyrics are bad. I just find the lyrical aspect the most important. A good beat is just a bonus.

Sound quality and music are two totally different things.

[Slill_Slim_Shady]

The way I judge albums is: 90 % lyrics, 10 % music so it is Recovery any day of the week for me. I'm a hip hop fan so I honestly couldn't care less about beats if you're not saying anything of any real importance or relevance.

Exactly this.

MBDTF is the most overrated album of all time. Recovery completely slaughters MBDTF so badly that it brings a tear to my eye to see so many people entitled to their opinions favoring MBDTF.

i don't know how any one, hip hop or not, could like good lyrics and shitty music over just good music iwth decent lyrics.

it's like...why don't you listen to recovery at it's lowest quality if you don't care about how the music sounds..

This is one of the dumbest thing that i ever read!!! How someone can love more the lyrics, than the music/producing???? How not!!!!!!!! It's normal for ppl to like more the lyrics!!! This is the most important aspect in hip-hop. All best rappers have good lyrics - Em, Nas, 2pac, Biggi etc. And i'm not including some commerical shits like Jay-Z, 50 Cent and Kanye (Sry for including words like Kanye and greatest in the same sentens but...). So there's nothink wrong to love the beat more than the lyrics but how the fuck you can wondering why ppl love the lyrics more!!!!