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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 09:27

venomblackviper wrote:
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venomblackviper wrote:I don't know it but just the subject matter it touches on seems like what Eminem would say, talking about how the media's biased and racist, there's all that name dropping in the third verse and the rhyme schemes seem more Eminem than Game. Either way this is just what I think i'm not stating it to be a fact like some of the other songs I KNOW Em ghostwrote on(Guilty Conscience)


Nah Game talks about that a lot. Remember, he's controversial as Marshall as well. And what do you mean? Em ghostwrites like 80% of Dre's shit :smoking:. The Chronic 2001 Em, Jay, Snoop, Xzibit, Mel Man, all of em wrote for him alone.


Well you could be right since I haven't been familiar with Game since 08, his verse just doesn't sound like something he'd usually write is all i'm saying.
Yeah Dre usually always has ghostwritten verses, Em ghostwrote for him on Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, Forgot About Dre & Whats The Difference. I think Snoop or Xzibit ghostwrote his Bitch Please 2 verse though.


Yeah you're right about those songs, he did ghostwrite for him then. I was just saying who ghostwrote for him in general. Em also ghostwrote for him on CAB & Topless I believe. Either that or Nas did.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby EminemInsider » Jan 6th, '11, 09:30

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EminemInsider wrote:LOL @ people thinking 50 Cent even wrote his verses on "Psycho." Eminem so blatantly ghost-wrote that shit for "Marble Mouth" it's hysterical.

50 Cent isn't even a rapper...he's a Vitamin Water salesman. The dude doesn't even pretend to be a good rapper.

Get Rich or Die Tryin' crushes your argument. Sorry, try again.


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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jan 6th, '11, 09:34

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venomblackviper wrote:Well you could be right since I haven't been familiar with Game since 08, his verse just doesn't sound like something he'd usually write is all i'm saying.
Yeah Dre usually always has ghostwritten verses, Em ghostwrote for him on Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, Forgot About Dre & Whats The Difference. I think Snoop or Xzibit ghostwrote his Bitch Please 2 verse though.


Yeah you're right about those songs, he did ghostwrite for him then. I was just saying who ghostwrote for him in general. Em also ghostwrote for him on CAB & Topless I believe. Either that or Nas did.


Nah Topless was also ghostwrote by Eminem otherwise he wouldn't have spit the lines, I think he sends Dre the lyrics and a version of him rapping it so Dre knows how to flow it when he spits it. Shit no wonder Detox was on hold for so long there's no way he could do that shit without Eminem lol.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Willy » Jan 6th, '11, 09:41

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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 09:55

venomblackviper wrote:
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venomblackviper wrote:Well you could be right since I haven't been familiar with Game since 08, his verse just doesn't sound like something he'd usually write is all i'm saying.
Yeah Dre usually always has ghostwritten verses, Em ghostwrote for him on Guilty Conscience, Bad Guys Always Die, Forgot About Dre & Whats The Difference. I think Snoop or Xzibit ghostwrote his Bitch Please 2 verse though.


Yeah you're right about those songs, he did ghostwrite for him then. I was just saying who ghostwrote for him in general. Em also ghostwrote for him on CAB & Topless I believe. Either that or Nas did.


Nah Topless was also ghostwrote by Eminem otherwise he wouldn't have spit the lines, I think he sends Dre the lyrics and a version of him rapping it so Dre knows how to flow it when he spits it. Shit no wonder Detox was on hold for so long there's no way he could do that shit without Eminem lol.


Yeah that's what I thought, and that's exactly what I was thinking too. But Dre has been around for forever, you think he would know how to spit flows for certain songs. Em is a genius though music wise, so :y: to that. And lmao I know right. When Em was in the hospital after he relapsed he was probably like *insert deep voice "Marshall, get the fcukk out of the hospital, I gotta put my fucking record out, fuck your health." jk.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jan 6th, '11, 10:05

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Nah Topless was also ghostwrote by Eminem otherwise he wouldn't have spit the lines, I think he sends Dre the lyrics and a version of him rapping it so Dre knows how to flow it when he spits it. Shit no wonder Detox was on hold for so long there's no way he could do that shit without Eminem lol.


Yeah that's what I thought, and that's exactly what I was thinking too. But Dre has been around for forever, you think he would know how to spit flows for certain songs. Em is a genius though music wise, so :y: to that. And lmao I know right. When Em was in the hospital after he relapsed he was probably like *insert deep voice "Marshall, get the fcukk out of the hospital, I gotta put my fucking record out, fuck your health." jk.


Well his career was mostly built on making beats and discovering talent (NWA, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50, Game. I hear he discovered Xzibit too but not sure if that one's true or not) he's not really a rapper he has people ghostwrite for him in exchange for hot beats. And lol he must've got nervous as fuck whenever they asked him about Detox in 05-08. "Yeah uhhh it's..... coming along :sweating: "
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby mdemaz » Jan 6th, '11, 10:07

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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 10:44

venomblackviper wrote:
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venomblackviper wrote:
Nah Topless was also ghostwrote by Eminem otherwise he wouldn't have spit the lines, I think he sends Dre the lyrics and a version of him rapping it so Dre knows how to flow it when he spits it. Shit no wonder Detox was on hold for so long there's no way he could do that shit without Eminem lol.


Yeah that's what I thought, and that's exactly what I was thinking too. But Dre has been around for forever, you think he would know how to spit flows for certain songs. Em is a genius though music wise, so :y: to that. And lmao I know right. When Em was in the hospital after he relapsed he was probably like *insert deep voice "Marshall, get the fcukk out of the hospital, I gotta put my fucking record out, fuck your health." jk.


Well his career was mostly built on making beats and discovering talent (NWA, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, 50, Game. I hear he discovered Xzibit too but not sure if that one's true or not) he's not really a rapper he has people ghostwrite for him in exchange for hot beats. And lol he must've got nervous as fuck whenever they asked him about Detox in 05-08. "Yeah uhhh it's..... coming along :sweating: "
"Where are you taking him, we're supposed to finish my album.... Rehab!!!????? Bye Marshall :crybye: :stretcher:


:laughing: :laughing: @ the stretcher, yeah exactly. But Dre also had (some) personal shit going on too, when his son died. when exactly that was I can't remember though, I think like 2007 it was cause I think I remember hearing about it through another rap forum. And yeah that's true about the beats part, but he still WAS a rapper at a young age, I mean a rapper, not like he's not now, but I guess having Em help you isn't so bad :shifty:. And idk about the Xzibit part, he got signed to Priority in 95 didn't he? He made that Paparazzi song. Edit: Nah I don't think Dre signed him. I think Dre just signed him in 1998/99 to Aftermath.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby EminemBase » Jan 6th, '11, 15:27

I think "Echo" is debatable in Royce's favour...

And there's like a 13 minute freestyle session between Royce and Em, where they're often neck and neck. But I honestly can't think of many more.

What makes him sound better, even when he's at a low - is his personality, humour and flow. His flow(s) are so melodic and deeply musical, so on-point and... he's got personality to spare (well, used to - majorly, still does to most effect) so makes most sound mundane.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Jan 6th, '11, 16:32

venomblackviper wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:I can't believe no one's mentioned this one yet, I do believe he might of had the worser verse on this.

Game's We Aint.

Actually, I KNOW Game had a better verse. Both of his verses were nice. Em's was too but not even close idt.


It seems like Em ghostwrote Games verses on that song.


Just cuz Game had a beter does not mean Em GW it.

Game wrote his vers.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 16:35

TheGentlePlayer wrote:
venomblackviper wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:I can't believe no one's mentioned this one yet, I do believe he might of had the worser verse on this.

Game's We Aint.

Actually, I KNOW Game had a better verse. Both of his verses were nice. Em's was too but not even close idt.


It seems like Em ghostwrote Games verses on that song.


Just cuz Game had a better verse does not mean Em GW it.

Game wrote his verse.


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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Nick419 » Jan 6th, '11, 17:39

It seems like Em ghostwrote Games verses on that song.[/quote]

Just cuz Game had a better verse does not mean Em GW it.

Game wrote his verse.[/quote]
agreed, i highly doubt em was like aye game im goin 2 write this verse for u n have u say that i killed u on ur own shit. Game has plenty of great songs, and i especially dont believe em wrote it considering that song is from when game was on top of his game lol (his 1st album)
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 19:12

Nick419 wrote:It seems like Em ghostwrote Games verses on that song.


Just cuz Game had a better verse does not mean Em GW it.

Game wrote his verse.[/quote]
agreed, i highly doubt em was like aye game im goin 2 write this verse for u n have u say that i killed u on ur own shit. Game has plenty of great songs, and i especially dont believe em wrote it considering that song is from when game was on top of his game lol (his 1st album)[/quote]

i think em only did that feature as a favor to dre anyway. if you were to ghostwrite for someone, wouldn't you have to like them as a person first? :laughing:. Not saying Em hated Game but I'm pretty pretty sure it was a favor to Game. A source of mine got it from another website where it was talked about and somebody from within said a few things about it, and it got tossed around.
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Re: Songs Where Somebody Else Had A Better Verse Than Em

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 19:14

Lo get Dre on the phone quick
tell 'em Em just killed me on my own shit
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Re: Songs Em's been Murdered On

Postby Wreck » Jan 6th, '11, 20:10

bigray wrote: :facepalm


People know what I mean, I shouldn't have to edit it.
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