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Imagine if Em had comeback with a concept like 'Syllables'

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Imagine if Em had comeback with a concept like 'Syllables'

Postby MikeNUFC » Jan 22nd, '11, 15:24

Obviously, I'm just talking concept here (and the hook/intro, which are fantastic), andnot any of the verses/features.

I think it would have created one hell of a buzz.

In the Relapse sessions, you can tell he was able to write conceptually really well, purely based from Deja Vu and My Mom, so the rhyming would have probably been brilliant.

5 years out of the spotlight and he comes back and destroys shitty rap and it's audience - it still would have been slightly hypocritical after the crap he'd put on previously, but he had a good enough reason for it (addiction), and as long as he rhymed well on it, it would have gone done a treat.

And it wouldn't have to be on Relapse, just a street single to create buzz. Would have been fucking epic.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Wreck » Jan 22nd, '11, 15:31

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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Iris » Jan 22nd, '11, 16:48

I agree. It would be 10x better if he remakes it now. The time when he made the song was the lowest part of his career. I can imagine hip-hop heads praising him considering he got only one garbage album then.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 22nd, '11, 16:49

Eh, I dunno. Same concept, but different verses would have been cool, I guess. And different features, maybe just have Jay and 50 on it, with Em having a completely new verse that's better. I love the concept of Syllables, though
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 22nd, '11, 16:54

Nah, he'd have just been a hater. I can (kinda) understand if he did it back a few more years, but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.

What purpose would it have for him to come along and diss people like Soulja Boy for not dropping deep lyrics? It'd be stupid and childish and beneath him and honestly just a cry for attention.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Elision » Jan 22nd, '11, 16:58

While I love the concept of Syllables, Em wasn't in his zone when writing that. So if you're referring to the song itself, then no. While everyone here hated We Made You, what I absolutely loved (and still do) about that track is he showed us he's able to rhyme like never before. The 2nd verse of that track is mind blowing lyrically.

Syllables was everything we hated about the accent x 10. He's clearly not fully pronouncing words, and using a crazy southern accent just for the sake of rhyming.

Again, I love the concept of the song, but you can't tell me there wouldn't be bitching about how there was no lyrical improvement from Encore. And if anything a decline.
i'm comin in, drivin my short bus
with this nose i don't need a torch up
bustin through, light the industry's porsche up
comin after who didn't support us...
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby MikeNUFC » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:01

Do you lot even read or do you just look at the title and reply? I even enboldened it for you in the OP, christ.

Obviously, I'm just talking concept here (and the hook/intro, which are fantastic), and not any of the verses/features.

I don't even like Syllables as a song, just the concept.

And again, I like We Made You (way more than fucking Not Afraid), but the concept was just stupid - everyone was bored of the typical celeb mentioning shit - if it had a direction, like his first 3 lead singles, then it would have got a better reception as well. As a song, I do like it.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Kez » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:01

Nollie wrote:While everyone here hated We Made You, what I absolutely loved (and still do) about that track is he showed us he's able to rhyme like never before. The 2nd verse of that track is mind blowing lyrically.


I agree with this
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Elision » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:06

MikeNUFC wrote:Do you lot even read or do you just look at the title and reply? I even enboldened it for you in the OP, christ.

Obviously, I'm just talking concept here (and the hook/intro, which are fantastic), and not any of the verses/features.

I don't even like Syllables as a song, just the concept.

And again, I like We Made You (way more than fucking Not Afraid), but the concept was just stupid - everyone was bored of the typical celeb mentioning shit - if it had a direction, like his first 3 lead singles, then it would have got a better reception as well. As a song, I do like it.
Chill, I thought by "intro" you meant Em's verse.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Jim_Halpert » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:06

FreeSpeech wrote:Nah, he'd have just been a hater. I can (kinda) understand if he did it back a few more years, but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West-over rated
Lupe Fiasco
Drake-sucks
Lil Wayne-sucks
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.

What purpose would it have for him to come along and diss people like Soulja Boy for not dropping deep lyrics? It'd be stupid and childish and beneath him and honestly just a cry for attention.


still, EM is levels and levels above any of those guys. when Em releases an album, its always a huge buzz about it, with critics mostly hating it, and fans loving it. he has 1 album (encore) that wasnt received well by fans. And rightfully so, setting a very high standard with MMLP, TES,etc.Em is on top, and most know if he wanted, lyrically he could destroy anyone and really lay it down how hiphop/rap is today. for em fans, when ems not putting music out, theres nothing that compares, rather it be relapse style, or recovery style.

would he need to have came back and released something liek syllables? No...but if he did, it woulda been cool to see if anyone came after him. Id like to see who stepped up to him.

anyways tho, in recovery, he does brag about himself, saying hes the best, no one can touch him etc, and its true.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Scrubz » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:20

FreeSpeech wrote:Nah, he'd have just been a hater. I can (kinda) understand if he did it back a few more years, but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.

What purpose would it have for him to come along and diss people like Soulja Boy for not dropping deep lyrics? It'd be stupid and childish and beneath him and honestly just a cry for attention.

Some of te best ever???? :confusion: how old are you?? :facepalm
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with a concept like 'Syllable

Postby Hiphopdane » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:31

It would be cool and a much better idea than the I'm having a relapse track but at the same time make people's expectations go sky high. You aren't better than your last album and his had Ass like that and Just lose it as singles so it would be a little too much to start having a go at other rappers for not making profound tracks.
The topic is extremely relevant so a remake of the song wouldn't be the worst idea.

FreeSpeech wrote:...but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.


Gave me a good laugh. You have obviously never taken time study the genre in depth. Those you mentioned there didn't even make the best albums of 2009-2011 (Lupe and Cole didn't even have albums out).
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Wreck » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:33

FreeSpeech wrote:Nah, he'd have just been a hater. I can (kinda) understand if he did it back a few more years, but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.

What purpose would it have for him to come along and diss people like Soulja Boy for not dropping deep lyrics? It'd be stupid and childish and beneath him and honestly just a cry for attention.


Best ever? :facepalm :laughing:
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with something like 'Syllable

Postby Jim_Halpert » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:39

FreeSpeech wrote:Nah, he'd have just been a hater. I can (kinda) understand if he did it back a few more years, but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.

What purpose would it have for him to come along and diss people like Soulja Boy for not dropping deep lyrics? It'd be stupid and childish and beneath him and honestly just a cry for attention.



and none of those guys are best ever...some are near top of todays mainstream, but ever?

eminem i sconsidered in the top, ever....those guys, no.
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Re: Imagine if Em had comeback with a concept like 'Syllable

Postby FreeSpeech » Jan 22nd, '11, 17:41

Hiphopdane wrote:It would be cool and a much better idea than the I'm having a relapse track but at the same time make people's expectations go sky high. You aren't better than your last album and his had Ass like that and Just lose it as singles so it would be a little too much to start having a go at other rappers for not making profound tracks.
The topic is extremely relevant so a remake of the song wouldn't be the worst idea.

FreeSpeech wrote:...but 2009-2011 hiphop is some of the best ever:

J Cole
Kanye West
Lupe Fiasco
Drake
Lil Wayne
T.I.
B.o.B.
Kid Cudi
etc.


Gave me a good laugh. You have obviously never taken time study the genre in depth.


Yeah man you're such a cool hip hop head, you know way more than me, I put Drake and Wayne up there, wtf is wrong with me!

...get off your high horse. I've listened to everything from Big Daddy Kane to Tupac extensively. The musical growth and evolution that has occured in the past few years is incredible. The level of ingenuity in the pure music is off the charts. Do you honestly not believe hiphop is at one of it's best points right now? Rap is finally moving away from the false gangsta bravado that was key for so long.

And if you didn't notice, I was only listing mainstream artists. I can go on for days about all the dope underground guys out, but I used mainstream because that's what Syllables was about.
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