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Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Fa-Q » Jan 25th, '11, 11:36

I was wondering this, most rap fans believe Eminem is a living legend in Hip Hop. And for those who don't, they will probably when he retires. But what about the general public and general music listeners. Does someone who listens to mostly Lady Gaga, who has maybe one or two Eminem songs but has general knowledge of him, believe he is a legend. Also, will he be considered a legend outside of Hip Hop and considered a legend in music.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Elision » Jan 25th, '11, 12:16

Whenever I'm explaining my stan-ness to another person, I tend to say that no matter how much you dislike him, what he stands for, etc. You simply cannot deny how skilled he is as a writer and how revolutionary he is for this generation and his art.

I have yet to have anybody disagree with me on that level.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby MayIAskAQuestion? » Jan 25th, '11, 12:18

Who the fuck cares about opinions of people who listen stupid pop stars who can't even take a pen ?
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Rash J » Jan 25th, '11, 13:28

Yes. Even my schoolmate, who doesn't even listen to English music, knows how big Eminem is :smoking:
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby dR3 » Jan 25th, '11, 13:43

Maybe they don't consider him a legend, but most people respect him.

Nollie wrote:You simply cannot deny how skilled he is as a writer and how revolutionary he is for this generation and his art.

I got the goosebumps when I read this, seriously. It's astonishing when you think about how big he actually is and how much influence he has had around the world.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Iris » Jan 25th, '11, 13:47

Trust me on this beliebers consider him a god.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby EminemBase » Jan 25th, '11, 14:19

Oh absolutely.

Don't you see a lot of rock / metal fans say things like "I hate hip-hop but I love Eminem".

The keys to his success with other demographics are mainly - his angst and his melody. He presents a very real, humanistic anger and angst, not specific to hip-hop, he presents a real human being with real humour and weaknesses...

And, the key to much of his worldwide success of course - his melody. People who say they hate hip-hop but love Eminem can't help but like his music because he's a master of melody. Even his earliest work, his flows were so unlike other rappers.

Other rappers flow over drum loops in a kind of... repetitive loop themselves. Not all now of course, there are many flow masters but, generally speaking and certainly before Em came along - that's why non hip-hop fans just hear thudding and 'babbling'.

Where as Em's flows are like constructs of melodies in themselves. Think of say the "Lose Yourself" flow, it's musical WITHOUT a beat. Most rappers, if you take their acapella it just sounds like loops of talking (not straight talking but certainly nowhere near as driven and tight), when you take Em's it's a rhythmic spider web of melody all in itself.

It's partially due to the way he writes. The way he neatly / obsessively times everything. Like "The Way I Am" - I SIT BACK / WITH THIS PACK OF ZIG-ZAGS AND THIS WEED IT GIVES ME THE SHIT NEEDED TO BE THE MOST MEANEST...

It's not just about rhyming or multisyllabic rhyming, it's about timing too. A lot of rappers may rhyme impressively but often without such... dedicated form that remains throughout.

It can't help but sound catchy. Where as a lot of rappers, even good rappers (and I'm thinking legendary too) don't even approach this kind of meticulous structure. They may rhyme a lot too but it's often sporadic, careless, structureless. They either become too consumed in the rhyme and lose the content of visa versa. Em is one of the only guys than can marry the two and make them both compelling and so structured.

It's why his rhymes are so catchy, the timing and structure. Then you have the actual delivery itself, he's always sort of half-sung as he's rapped - kind of, dragging out words and emphasizing syllables beyond normal pronunciation, he drags melody out of sentences in a very powerful way.

So yes, I would say most even outside if hip-hop, even people I've seen hate him - acknowledge his talent and consider him a legend. Like he said, you can't deny talent.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 25th, '11, 14:58

Nollie wrote:Whenever I'm explaining my stan-ness to another person, I tend to say that no matter how much you dislike him, what he stands for, etc. You simply cannot deny how skilled he is as a writer and how revolutionary he is for this generation and his art.

I have yet to have anybody disagree with me on that level.


I say that to almost everyone who hates him, and they never deny his skills. They just don't like his content/voice
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby NicoleEM » Jan 25th, '11, 19:15

Iris wrote:Trust me on this beliebers consider him a god.

Yah i noticed this on twitter,most JB fans are Em fans too.Weird but true :zipped:
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby OMEGA » Jan 25th, '11, 19:42

Absolutely. I can't count how many times I've heard/seen/read "I hate hip-hop, but I love Eminem" type of comments. Dude's a legend for anyone who's open minded and understand the why of some of his controversial lyrics.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Poison Ivy » Jan 25th, '11, 19:45

EminemBase wrote:Oh absolutely.


Much better :y:
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby mareble412 » Jan 25th, '11, 20:03

Maybe, some might consider him "violent and poison to young children" but I think other musicians respect him because they under the craft. I have a roommate who think Flo Rida is the greatest Hip-Hop artist ever but cannot give Eminem any respect.
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby AnalKiddo » Jan 25th, '11, 21:23

He's the most widely known rapper so yes he's a legend.. And he's white
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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby Sekou » Jan 25th, '11, 21:31

Poison Ivy wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Oh absolutely.


Much better :y:


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Re: Is Em Considered A Legend To Non-Hip Hop Fans

Postby VenomBlackViper » Jan 25th, '11, 21:47

Outside of the Juggalo community I don't think theres many people that hate him, but just like Eminem fans hate ICP for no reason Juggalos hate Eminem for no reason over some small feud that happened 10 years ago.
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