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ThomasJ wrote:And to people saying Ash is whack, listen to a song other than I Love College.

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ThomasJ wrote:Can you, with a clear conscience, tell me that e.g. G.R.I.N.D. & As I Em are whack?





xxTrigger1989xx wrote:ThomasJ wrote:Can you, with a clear conscience, tell me that e.g. G.R.I.N.D. & As I Em are whack?
As I Em is one of the few "not wack" songs of his
. It's bad enough I have to skip through Wayne and Drake verses. I'm speaking from the heart when I say Asher Roth would make a better song with Yelawolf than he would with Em..
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Satire wrote:xxTrigger1989xx wrote:ThomasJ wrote:Can you, with a clear conscience, tell me that e.g. G.R.I.N.D. & As I Em are whack?
As I Em is one of the few "not wack" songs of his
You have no idea what you're talking about if you say he only has a few "not wack" songs.
To me he's average for the most part. His album was by far his worst work to me aside from a few songs but that's only about 20%-30% of his work. I think people on this forum overrate him and some people on this forum judge him retardedly unfair.
But TBH, Asher Roth wouldn't have any chemistry with Em, so that talk should already be put to a stop. It's bad enough I have to skip through Wayne and Drake verses. I'm speaking from the heart when I say Asher Roth would make a better song with Yelawolf than he would with Em..
Em needs to do an official collab with Nas before either of them die, if anything. They're both living legends from the golden age of Hip Hop. The fact that they've never worked together on an actual track is just stupid.
A Tech N9ne collab would have been amazing to me in the Relapse era. Not because I think Relapse was better than Recovery (Even though I do think it is), but that was when Em was smashing guest verses and his flow, rhyming & style would have worked alot better with Tech. Imagine Tech N9ne on the 2nd verse of Stay Wide Awake.
But With the guest verses and collabs Em's been doing lately, Em would get bodied easily. Even with that "No Love" ish. I haven't listened to alot of Bad Season but people tell me it was average and I wasn't impressed with what I did listen to, so maybe I'm wrong and Tech fell off. So really, either way, I couldn't give a fuck if any of them did a collab now.
It's like when people were begging Royce to get back with Marshall because they were hoping for a collab with Slaughterhouse and Em because that would be such an AMAAZZZINGGGG track. Everyone on Session One was a great-amazing MC, but the outcome wasn't that amazing.
Prime-Em and Prime-Tech would have been amazing, K.O.D-Tech and Relapse-Em would have been amazing, but present-Em and present-Tech would likely be a skip-able track.



xxTrigger1989xx wrote:It's not that "I have no idea what I'm talking about". I definitely do. I've listened to A WHOLE FUCKING LOT of Asher Roth, and most of his music is NOT my cup of tea. I'm sorry if you don't like that
I am still fairly positive that Em would destroy Asher on a track. Never judge a track before you hear it though, for all you know, Em and Tech might create the next "Renegade". Who knows?
Apathy isn't my cup of tea either but that doesn't mean I'm going to go say "He has a few not-wack tracks that I can bare to listen to".

Satire wrote:xxTrigger1989xx wrote:It's not that "I have no idea what I'm talking about". I definitely do. I've listened to A WHOLE FUCKING LOT of Asher Roth, and most of his music is NOT my cup of tea. I'm sorry if you don't like that
I am still fairly positive that Em would destroy Asher on a track. Never judge a track before you hear it though, for all you know, Em and Tech might create the next "Renegade". Who knows?
Okay, it's not your cup of tea. That doesn't mean most of his tracks are wack (And yes, you did basically say that).Apathy isn't my cup of tea either but that doesn't mean I'm going to go say "He has a few not-wack tracks that I can bare to listen to".
And them creating the next Renegade would insinuate that one of them destroyed the other on that track, which is what I was getting at when I said "Em would get bodied"



Satire wrote:xxTrigger1989xx wrote:ThomasJ wrote:Can you, with a clear conscience, tell me that e.g. G.R.I.N.D. & As I Em are whack?
As I Em is one of the few "not wack" songs of his
You have no idea what you're talking about if you say he only has a few "not wack" songs.
To me he's average for the most part. His album was by far his worst work to me aside from a few songs but that's only about 20%-30% of his work. I think people on this forum overrate him and some people on this forum judge him retardedly unfair.
But TBH, Asher Roth wouldn't have any chemistry with Em, so that talk should already be put to a stop. It's bad enough I have to skip through Wayne and Drake verses. I'm speaking from the heart when I say Asher Roth would make a better song with Yelawolf than he would with Em..
Em needs to do an official collab with Nas before either of them die, if anything. They're both living legends from the golden age of Hip Hop. The fact that they've never worked together on an actual track is just stupid.
A Tech N9ne collab would have been amazing to me in the Relapse era. Not because I think Relapse was better than Recovery (Even though I do think it is), but that was when Em was smashing guest verses and his flow, rhyming & style would have worked alot better with Tech. Imagine Tech N9ne on the 2nd verse of Stay Wide Awake.
But With the guest verses and collabs Em's been doing lately, Em would get bodied easily. Even with that "No Love" ish. I haven't listened to alot of Bad Season but people tell me it was average and I wasn't impressed with what I did listen to, so maybe I'm wrong and Tech fell off. So really, either way, I couldn't give a fuck if any of them did a collab now.
It's like when people were begging Royce to get back with Marshall because they were hoping for a collab with Slaughterhouse and Em because that would be such an AMAAZZZINGGGG track. Everyone on Session One was a great-amazing MC, but the outcome wasn't that amazing.
Prime-Em and Prime-Tech would have been amazing, K.O.D-Tech and Relapse-Em would have been amazing, but present-Em and present-Tech would likely be a skip-able track.


xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Satire wrote:xxTrigger1989xx wrote:It's not that "I have no idea what I'm talking about". I definitely do. I've listened to A WHOLE FUCKING LOT of Asher Roth, and most of his music is NOT my cup of tea. I'm sorry if you don't like that
I am still fairly positive that Em would destroy Asher on a track. Never judge a track before you hear it though, for all you know, Em and Tech might create the next "Renegade". Who knows?
Okay, it's not your cup of tea. That doesn't mean most of his tracks are wack (And yes, you did basically say that).Apathy isn't my cup of tea either but that doesn't mean I'm going to go say "He has a few not-wack tracks that I can bare to listen to".
And them creating the next Renegade would insinuate that one of them destroyed the other on that track, which is what I was getting at when I said "Em would get bodied"
Yes, I did say wack. Maybe not the best choice of words, but that's still all based on opinion
I meant them creating the next Renegade like...just a really good collaboration song, where both of them go in. Because Jay did go in on Renegade, just not as much as Em. Tech is more up Em's alley than the rest of these collaborations
...See what I did there? Yes it's opinion, EVERYTHING IN FUCKING MUSIC IS BASED ON OPINION. It's just dumb to state it like that. 
You have to look at the situation like this. Technically, the only wack OFFICIAL COLLAB that Em did is Roman's Revenge...the general consensus is that RR sucks balls and I agree. All
She Wrote & Where I'm At are the other official collabs but those have a concept behind them so Eminem can't rip the beat up and steal the show like he did on Drop The World & Forever.
So I still have hope that if a Tech x Em collab really does happen Eminem can actually compete with Tech. And btw Tech didn't fall off. Bad Season wasn't bad at all, his verses were amazing. The mixtape was ruined solely by shitty features.

Satire wrote:
OKay, "Almost Famous" was one of the few not-wack songs I liked on Recovery...See what I did there? Yes it's opinion, EVERYTHING IN FUCKING MUSIC IS BASED ON OPINION. It's just dumb to state it like that.
And I agree that Tech would be a good collab with Em, but I have every right to say that the track wouldn't be that good. You know why? Because that's my opinion



xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Satire wrote:
OKay, "Almost Famous" was one of the few not-wack songs I liked on Recovery...See what I did there? Yes it's opinion, EVERYTHING IN FUCKING MUSIC IS BASED ON OPINION. It's just dumb to state it like that.
And I agree that Tech would be a good collab with Em, but I have every right to say that the track wouldn't be that good. You know why? Because that's my opinion
Yes, I can detect a smart ass even through the internet, believe me, I'm one of them lol. From now on, I'll be sure to say "I don't like _____'s music", and not that I "think it's wack"
I didn't say you didn't have a right to say that...where did I say that?...I'm just saying don't judge when you haven't heard it


Satire wrote:xxTrigger1989xx wrote:Satire wrote:
OKay, "Almost Famous" was one of the few not-wack songs I liked on Recovery...See what I did there? Yes it's opinion, EVERYTHING IN FUCKING MUSIC IS BASED ON OPINION. It's just dumb to state it like that.
And I agree that Tech would be a good collab with Em, but I have every right to say that the track wouldn't be that good. You know why? Because that's my opinion
Yes, I can detect a smart ass even through the internet, believe me, I'm one of them lol. From now on, I'll be sure to say "I don't like _____'s music", and not that I "think it's wack"
I didn't say you didn't have a right to say that...where did I say that?...I'm just saying don't judge when you haven't heard it
Telling me to not judge it when I haven't heard it is just like saying I don't have the right to say it wouldn't be that good of a track




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