Eminem To Be Featured In Ad During Super Bowl

[christalgurl]

Wow, you guys, it's only a commercial.

Personally, I'm excited to see Eminem in a funny Super Bowl ad. It's not a big deal. We'll get a good laugh and see a clay Eminem. Sounds good to me.

[Drucifer]

The complaints your making about compromise and what not, those same things have been brought up on other moves

When he signed 50, people said "How can someone who cares so much about lyrics sign such an average thug rapper??.........He sold out, he's only signing him for the money, I thought he was a hip hop head"

And thats just one example I'm pulling off the top, so maybe to YOU, summin like this is that huge deal thats got you uptight, but people have been making these same arguments for years about everything he does.........

Me personally I dont give a shit..........I always thought 50 was whack, didnt make me lose respect for him

When he turned his TRSS songs into a typical Pop Formula "Everytime I release an album this is what I'll sell it with", it made him as predictable as any other mainstream artist, but I never let it effect my opinion on the rest of the music.........I just dont listen to those songs

And I dont give a shit about this commercial either, do what you want with your life, just make good music and the rest is your buisness

Yes but again, you're missing the point by saying other people have called things he's done sell-out. The point is they WEREN'T. It's not subjective if you can justify it with logic.

Whether or not you think 50 Cent is trash point is, at that time he didn't and he justified it with his passion for 50 Cent, it was obviously about the music and the image. And, it was related to his art, it was hip-hop.

But this, is endorsing something for the sake of money only. Selling-out isn't a subjective term, it's objective in terms of... it's selling out your integrity for the sake of money. Now, what integrity is to one person or the next isn't objective, but we know Eminem's aims and what's integral to him. And ice tea has nothing to do with Eminem as an artist, with his art, nothing. It's fucking ice tea.

It's a totally arbitrary public endorsement for money. THAT is selling-out. Nothing else you mentioned is selling-out because it can all be justified on artistic terms and anybody who understands the fucking term knows that.

There's a huge huge difference between everything else you mentioned, and this.

But whatever, it doesn't bother you, great. That just makes us different then. It bothers me though and it's not about being uptight, it just makes me lose a bit of respect for Em as a person and makes him much less integral in my eyes. Agree to disagree, done.

You show your own arrogance when you say stuff like "When other people called him a sellout they were wrong, but me, I'm right when I say it"

Those other people probably felt they were just as justified with there points as you do with yours, your not special, you just another person with an opinion on summin, same as me........

And how is shooting a 2 minute commercial such a gun shot to the head for his integrity, fuck outta here

2pac, for all his gay bashing of Dr Dre and what not, before he died he was modeling clothes for Gianni Versace and it hasnt done shit to effect his legacy......You taking a mole hill and turning it into a mountain, its not that deep

[EminemBase]

You show your own arrogance when you say stuff like "When other people called him a sellout they were wrong, but me, I'm right when I say it"

Those other people probably felt they were just as justified with there points as you do with yours, your not special, you just another person with an opinion on summin, same as me........

And how is shooting a 2 minute commercial such a gun shot to the head for his integrity, fuck outta here

No no no. It has NOTHING to do with arrogance. You're treating the term sell-out as a subjective term which is based on opinion, IT'S NOT. My point is, other people's claims of him being a sell-out cannot be fucking justified, logically in accordance with the term.

Where as this CAN. This is doing something totally unrelated to his art, to his image, to everything for the sake of money. It's the exact definition of selling-out!! Learn the fucking term. So you only show YOUR arrogance by arguing a point around a term you don't fucking understand.

Nothing to do with MY definition of selling-out, if you start to dilute the original definition of a phrase you may as well not fucking use it at all. We've already agreed upon what sell-out means, in the English language, in basic context. None of the past claims fit its definition.

So it's not me calling other people wrong based on MY "opinion" it's me saying he's never done anything that could be properly argued / defined as selling-out. But THIS can be.

And like I fucking said:
But whatever, it doesn't bother you, great. That just makes us different then. It bothers me though and it's not about being uptight, it just makes me lose a bit of respect for Em as a person and makes him much less integral in my eyes. Agree to disagree, done.

[Drucifer]

You show your own arrogance when you say stuff like "When other people called him a sellout they were wrong, but me, I'm right when I say it"

Those other people probably felt they were just as justified with there points as you do with yours, your not special, you just another person with an opinion on summin, same as me........

And how is shooting a 2 minute commercial such a gun shot to the head for his integrity, fuck outta here

No no no. It has NOTHING to do with arrogance. You're treating the term sell-out as a subjective term which is based on opinion, IT'S NOT. My point is, other people's claims of him being a sell-out cannot be fucking justified, logically in accordance with the term.

Where as this CAN. This is doing something totally unrelated to his art, to his image, to everything for the sake of money. It's the exact definition of selling-out!! Learn the fucking term.

Nothing to do with MY definition of selling-out, if you start to dilute the original definition of a phrase you may as well not fucking use it at all. We've already agreed upon what sell-out means, in the English language, in basic context. None of the past claims fit its definition.

So it's not me calling other people wrong based on MY "opinion" it's me saying he's never done anything that could be properly argued / defined as selling-out. But THIS can be.

And like I fucking said:
But whatever, it doesn't bother you, great. That just makes us different then. It bothers me though and it's not about being uptight, it just makes me lose a bit of respect for Em as a person and makes him much less integral in my eyes. Agree to disagree, done.

Whateber lil buddy this argument is going no where, lets just agree that you seem to be very passionate about summin I could give a fuck less about, lol, that horrible "Wee Wee" song means more to me, that was a musician I like making really bad music, this commercial is fucking irrelevant to me, just another commercial that will play in between views of the Steelers smacking the pack around the field

[EminemBase]

@Drucifer - I'm not very passionate about this in particular, you're taking this specific instance of disagreement with too much weight.

I just care about the truth, I'd argue this intensely about a fucking pebble.

I forget this shit as soon as I leave the thread, just because I'm typing intensely or defining what I mean IN THE MOMENT, doesn't mean it eats me up inside in my every day life.

It's just a fucking discussion. I couldn't give a fuck either. But since we were in a discussion about it, I'm not going to not argue my point am I.

[EminemBase]

By definition, this might be selling out, but I won't consider Em a sell out 'til he puts out his own fragrance, nail polish, trading cards, etc.

It's just a commercial.

Would Em be selling out if he went into a movie? No. A commercial is essentially the same thing. Maybe he "found the right script"

I just think you guys are getting too heated about this. It might not even be real.

That's not the same thing at all lmao.

A movie is a piece of art. A commercial is an endorsement of produce. They're not even close to the same thing.

A movie is storytelling or portraying moods and characters, it's not dissimilar to his msuic and he enjoys doing it, and has shown his integrity in choosing movies by the amount he's turned down.

But endorsing a product, for a pay-day, is totally different.

[HereHere]

Wow, you guys, it's only a commercial.

Personally, I'm excited to see Eminem in a funny Super Bowl ad. It's not a big deal. We'll get a good laugh and see a clay Eminem. Sounds good to me.

This is pretty much how I feel, I don't really care if he does adverts as long as he doesn't whore himself out like most artists.

[EminemBase]

By definition, this might be selling out, but I won't consider Em a sell out 'til he puts out his own fragrance, nail polish, trading cards, etc.

It's just a commercial.

Would Em be selling out if he went into a movie? No. A commercial is essentially the same thing. Maybe he "found the right script"

I just think you guys are getting too heated about this. It might not even be real.

That's not the same thing at all lmao.

A movie is a piece of art. A commercial is an endorsement of produce. They're not even close to the same thing.

A movie is storytelling or portraying moods and characters, it's not dissimilar to his msuic and he enjoys doing it, and has shown his integrity in choosing movies by the amount he's turned down.

But endorsing a product, for a pay-day, is totally different.

What if he actually likes the product, and it's not just randomly to get cash?

We've already mentioned that.

Think about how relevant ice tea is to his image or him as an artist. Even he 'happened' to like this particular product, i'm sure there's been a million thrown his way over the years. It has zero to do with him as an artist and makes no sense.

And that's a poor excuse because you could again, use that to justify ANY move then. He's an artist, his image is everything. Endorsing something so random and unrelated, is pointless to all of that and a monetary gain. Do you really think he loves ICE TEA that fucking much that he's just DYING to be the face of it lmao?...

It's a fucking quick buck.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

A clay Eminem? Not even that big of a deal. It sounds like it's just for fun, if this is true

[EminemBase]

^ But from the description of it (clay-motion / day in the life of)...

I'm guessing this could be a little artistic spot, a little self-promotion / story thing like the Grammy promo that maybe, Lipson Brisk are SPONSORING or something.

That would make more sense. And that is very different. It's probably not him endorsing them but it's just the spin the tabloids have given it to make it controversial.

[EminemBase]

^ No I don't mean the ad is for the Grammys.

I said it could be LIKE that ad, as in, in that nature. Just like a little thing like the Family Guy thing. So I mean, it might be a little Eminem promotion that Lipson Brisk could be sponsoring aka paying the production for, in exchange for having their brand on it.

Which is a lot different to Eminem endorsing them for a pay-day. So it could be that and the newspapers have spun it like it's him endorsing them, as it's more controversial.

[Drucifer]

^ No I don't mean the ad is for the Grammys.

I said it could be LIKE that ad, as in, in that nature. Just like a little thing like the Family Guy thing. So I mean, it might be a little Eminem promotion that Lipson Brisk could be sponsoring aka paying the production for, in exchange for having their brand on it.

Which is a lot different to Eminem endorsing them for a pay-day. So it could be that and the newspapers have spun it like it's him endorsing them, as it's more controversial.

If you read the mtvnews story thats basically what there saying the commercial is, A Claymation thing built around his story......

[EminemBase]

^ No I don't mean the ad is for the Grammys.

I said it could be LIKE that ad, as in, in that nature. Just like a little thing like the Family Guy thing. So I mean, it might be a little Eminem promotion that Lipson Brisk could be sponsoring aka paying the production for, in exchange for having their brand on it.

Which is a lot different to Eminem endorsing them for a pay-day. So it could be that and the newspapers have spun it like it's him endorsing them, as it's more controversial.

If you read the mtvnews story thats basically what there saying the commercial is, A Claymation thing built around his story......

Yeah I know but some tabloids are presenting it like it's just Em endorsing / promoting Lipson Brink ice tea for the money.

Where as, if it's a spot, an Eminem promotion that is sponsored by them, that's totally different. I'm taking it all with a bucket-load of salt anyway, papers are full of shit.

[Graphic]

Just shows you how much money Em could have if he wanted to. He could easily start endorsing a bunch of shit, do a bunch of ads, and get paid ridiculous amounts of money without putting out a single song.

I'd imagine it takes a lot not to go after all of that relatively easy money. Go Em.

[Drucifer]

^ No I don't mean the ad is for the Grammys.

I said it could be LIKE that ad, as in, in that nature. Just like a little thing like the Family Guy thing. So I mean, it might be a little Eminem promotion that Lipson Brisk could be sponsoring aka paying the production for, in exchange for having their brand on it.

Which is a lot different to Eminem endorsing them for a pay-day. So it could be that and the newspapers have spun it like it's him endorsing them, as it's more controversial.

If you read the mtvnews story thats basically what there saying the commercial is, A Claymation thing built around his story......

Yeah I know but some tabloids are presenting it like it's just Em endorsing / promoting Lipson Brink ice tea for the money.

Where as, if it's a spot, an Eminem promotion that is sponsored by them, that's totally different. I'm taking it all with a bucket-load of salt anyway, papers are full of shit.

Oh, well the only story I read on it was the MTV story so I guess I see what you meant earlier, your saying you thought it might be some thing where Em just pops up and says "By Lipton Iced Tea, Eminem says its good" or some shit like that.......... The Premise of the commercial so far hasnt said anything like that from a reliable source