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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby whiteamerica » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:05

dead prez wrote:
whiteamerica wrote:ok. if that's ALL that you're talking about.... but remember. one dimensional makes you automatically bad.

Devil'sAdvocate wrote: BUT HE IS SO FUCKING "ONE DIMENSIONAL" IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY.

Are you implying those artist I listed are one dimensional?


no. i'm implying that you're only analyzing one aspect.... and you are. meanwhile looking at one dimension only is a bad thing
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby dead prez » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:15

stillmatic wrote:I fail to see you're trying to say really.

You have an argument, but not a point.

Every rapper ever can be questioned and tried to be held accountable for their lyrics for 'poisoning' the minds of young people who are not clever enough to understand their lyrics and misconstrue it. That's impossible to stop. What they can do, and what Immortal Technique does, is to try and educate them in a manner which can be referenced and can be done in a manner that keeps them interested. That's the best he can do.


You don't feel his whole revolutionary persona is a gimmick meant to attract said audience? He's smart he knows his niche, and plays it off well.

Also, Nas on Untitled, or Dead Prez are nowhere near the viciousness of Technique. Technique goes way beyond the discussions of Nas or Dead Prez, the only artists capable of being compared to Technique are the likes of Paris.


Well yeah I mean he always talks about death, fallen angels, sliced up decomposed babies and what not with his try hard voice.

Before calling him obnoxious, how about doing some reading on what he's talking about. He's not lying, he's not making things up, he's talking about things that have happened, that are there in writing, that are there in visuals for you to see. What you call ignorance, others call visionary. yo


So I don't mean to insult you or anything but do you believe he actually believes what he preaches or at least half of it?

How dare he make people be interested in the state of the world and want to pick a book up and read rather than stay at home playing video games all day.

I have no problem with that it's the way he comes across doing it, but it does feel like he knows his niche. Like I said props to him for donating and helping build schools in other countries, but that has zilch do to with his actual music.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby dead prez » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:16

whiteamerica wrote:no. i'm implying that you're only analyzing one aspect.... and you are. meanwhile looking at one dimension only is a bad thing

I know I was just pointing out that he wasn't better "rhymers' in the purest sense of the word than the rappers I listed, lyricists overall debatable though.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby whiteamerica » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:21

dead prez wrote:
whiteamerica wrote:no. i'm implying that you're only analyzing one aspect.... and you are. meanwhile looking at one dimension only is a bad thing

I know I was just pointing out that he wasn't better "rhymers' in the purest sense of the word than the rappers I listed, lyricists overall debatable though.


thank you for acknowledging that. unlike others in here

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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby dead prez » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:23

Personally, I don't even think Eminem is the GOAT.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby EminemInsider » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:24

Anyone who believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories is STOOOOOPIDDD...in ALL-CAPS. There's really not much else to say.

If a rapper believes in that shit, then yes...he's a complete moron. He might as well rap about how we should all be wearing tinfoil hats so the government can't read our thoughts. It's equally idiotic.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby classthe_king » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:26

EminemInsider wrote:Anyone who believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories is STOOOOOPIDDD...in ALL-CAPS. There's really not much else to say.

If a rapper believes in that shit, then yes...he's a complete moron. He might as well rap about how we should all be wearing tinfoil hats so the government can't read our thoughts. It's equally idiotic.


If you think that 9/11 is not a conspiracy theory without having done any research on it then you infact are the moron.
You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby whiteamerica » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:27

dead prez wrote:Personally, I don't even think Eminem is the GOAT.


only the STANIEST of stans believes that.... or a noob stan who hasn't heard other rap
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:28

whiteamerica wrote:
dead prez wrote:Personally, I don't even think Eminem is the GOAT.


only the STANIEST of stans believes that.... or a noob stan who hasn't heard other rap


No, wtf. I think Em is the GOAT, and I've heard PLENTY of other rap. I know he's not the actual GOAT, but in my opinion (and a lot of people's opinions) he is
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby Master Chief » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:31

whiteamerica wrote:
dead prez wrote:Personally, I don't even think Eminem is the GOAT.


only the STANIEST of stans believes that.... or a noob stan who hasn't heard other rap

No you dumbass. A person who believes Eminem is the best of all time is not a fucking stan. I personally just might consider Eminem the GOAT over Tech, Royce or Nas...does that make me a noob stan? I've heard PLENTY of Hip-Hop, I bet my life that more than you.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby whiteamerica » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:34

Master Chief wrote:
whiteamerica wrote:
dead prez wrote:Personally, I don't even think Eminem is the GOAT.


only the STANIEST of stans believes that.... or a noob stan who hasn't heard other rap

No you dumbass. A person who believes Eminem is the best of all time is not a fucking stan. I personally just might consider Eminem the GOAT over Tech, Royce or Nas...does that make me a noob stan? I've heard PLENTY of Hip-Hop, I bet my life that more than you.


maybe you have heard more than me.... i've heard enough though that i don't consider eminem the GOAT anymore. i did at one point, before i discovered that underground rap is full of lyricists over sellouts
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby Master Chief » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:35

That doesn't give you the right to say that only stans believe Em is the GOAT.
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:36

whiteamerica wrote:
maybe you have heard more than me.... i've heard enough though that i don't consider eminem the GOAT anymore. i did at one point, before i discovered that underground rap is full of lyricists over sellouts


Eminem isn't a sellout. He hasn't dumbed down his lyrics or anything, he just had an extremely successful album. If you don't like the beats, that's fine, but the beats don't make someone a sell out, it's the lyrics. Eminem didn't "sell out"
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby whiteamerica » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:36

Master Chief wrote:That doesn't give you the right to say that only stans believe Em is the GOAT.


in my opinion you have to be a stan to fully appreciate em's music.... and anyone who considers him a GOAT without understanding him fully... that's kinda closed minded
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Re: Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

Postby dead prez » Feb 3rd, '11, 03:38

whiteamerica wrote:maybe you have heard more than me.... i've heard enough though that i don't consider eminem the GOAT anymore. i did at one point, before i discovered that underground rap is full of lyricists over sellouts

Are you implying Mainstream doesn't have good rappers or lyricists?
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