Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

[Willy]

Devil's Advocate comes in again to show how stupid he is.

Fuck you man leave him out of this

[dead prez]

I Enjoyed reading this thread.

9/11 is not a conspiracy.

Eminem is not a sell-out.

apparently being successful = sellout here?

I dislike wayne's music,i find it bad,but collabing with him is not selling out.

if so,then if raekwon or tech n9ne or slaughterhouse collabed with Em,are they sellouts too?

cuz Em brings sales and money and exposure?

a pretty fucking stupid logic if u ask me.

False analogy Eminem actually has skills and can collab with ANYONE Jay z, Nas, Andre 3000,Members of the Wu yet decides to be a lazy fuck and collab with guys so beneath which makes him look good when he murders those guys, and the reason he's selling out is because they bring more $$$ to the table than if he went and collabed with someone like Raekwon. Really not that hard man.

[classthe_king]

I don't think some of you guys know what trolling is.

Class The King: You just don't understand Copy's punchlines
Devil's Advocate: Give me a punchline and try me
Class The King: Amy Whinehouse with a straw cause my lines crazy/ writtens are insane asylum addmittance, each lines crazy.
Devil's Advocate: It's cause when he's at his house he drink wine through a straw and it makes him crazy.


#actualconversation

[VenomBlackViper]

I don't think some of you guys know what trolling is.

Class The King: You just don't understand Copy's punchlines
Devil's Advocate: Give me a punchline and try me
Class The King: Amy Whinehouse with a straw cause my lines crazy/ writtens are insane asylum addmittance, each lines crazy.
Devil's Advocate: It's cause when he's at his house he drink wine through a straw and it makes him crazy.


#actualconversation

LOL he doesn't know who amy winehouse is? she's been the target of cocaine & big teeth jokes for years.
and yes we get your lines are crazy mr copywrite no need to repeat it twice

[whiteamerica]

I don't think some of you guys know what trolling is.

Class The King: You just don't understand Copy's punchlines
Devil's Advocate: Give me a punchline and try me
Class The King: Amy Whinehouse with a straw cause my lines crazy/ writtens are insane asylum addmittance, each lines crazy.
Devil's Advocate: It's cause when he's at his house he drink wine through a straw and it makes him crazy.


#actualconversation

that's not even a complicated one.... at all. goodtroll devil's

one of my favorites: "I leave you full uh clips like the moon blockin the sun/
my metaphors are dirty like herpes but harder to catch/
like an escape from prison i started from scratch/" -immortal technique

[Hiphopdane]

Maybe he is "selling out" because he wants more people to listen to his lyrics? There is nothing wrong with pop music, there is something wrong with bad pop music.

Funny thing is 90 % of all underground artists would love to work with someone like Rihanna in order to make their music/lyrics hit a broader audience.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Maybe he is "selling out" because he wants more people to listen to his lyrics? There is nothing wrong with pop music, there is something wrong with bad pop music.

Funny thing is 90 % of all underground artists would love to work with someone like Rihanna in order to make their music/lyrics hit a broader audience.

The smartest thing said in this thread

[dead prez]

Maybe he is "selling out" because he wants more people to listen to his lyrics? There is nothing wrong with pop music, there is something wrong with bad pop music.

He already has a billion fans, he doesn't need anymore exposure. Why collab with guys like Drake, and Wayne, isntead of guys like Nas, Wu, Andre, Lupe Fiasco etc. There are a ton of mainstream lyricists.

Funny thing is 90 % of all underground artists would love to work with someone like Rihanna in order to make their music/lyrics hit a broader audience.

You'd have a point with guys like K.R.I.T., Gibbs, Jay Elec, but not with guys like Slug, I.T., and a shit ton of other underground artists.

[ThomasJ]

Maybe he is "selling out" because he wants more people to listen to his lyrics? There is nothing wrong with pop music, there is something wrong with bad pop music.

He already has a billion fans, he doesn't need anymore exposure. Why collab with guys like Drake, and Wayne, isntead of guys like Nas, Wu, Andre, Lupe Fiasco etc. There are a ton of mainstream lyricists.

Funny thing is 90 % of all underground artists would love to work with someone like Rihanna in order to make their music/lyrics hit a broader audience.

You'd have a point with guys like K.R.I.T., Gibbs, Jay Elec, but not with guys like Slug, I.T., and a shit ton of other underground artists.

This.

I'm sorry, I just had to quote you... Your avatar is amazing.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I'm fairly sure there are many more collaborations to come, with much better artists

[classthe_king]

Eminem sold out not only because of his collaborations but because of the beats he started choosing, how he changed his style to the Lil Wayne style of doing atrocious punchlines and he completely dropped the album of what HE wanted to do to the album that the label/fans wanted him to do. He even apologized for his old album, wtf?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Eminem sold out not only because of his collaborations but because of the beats he started choosing, how he changed his style to the Lil Wayne style of doing atrocious punchlines and he completely dropped the album of what HE wanted to do to the album that the label/fans wanted him to do. He even apologized for his old album, wtf?

The selection of beats doesn't make him a sell-out any more than collaborations do. If he did sell-out, his lyrics would be watered down. And they're not. You can say they're not as good all you want, but Eminem did not water down his lyrics. Cold Wind Blows is a good example. He still TRIES to be offensive and not kissing everyone's asses like an actual sell-out would do. The ONLY part that I actually agree with you on is apologizing for old albums. He obviously did that not for himself, but for the media and his casual fans. The beats are more appealing to a wider audience, but unless you're one who cares about beats over lyrics (which you don't, from what I can tell, unless that's just a front) then the beats SHOULDN'T matter to you, so why even bring that up?

[Master Chief]

Eminem sold out not only because of his collaborations but because of the beats he started choosing, how he changed his style to the Lil Wayne style of doing atrocious punchlines and he completely dropped the album of what HE wanted to do to the album that the label/fans wanted him to do. He even apologized for his old album, wtf?

The selection of beats doesn't make him a sell-out any more than collaborations do. If he did sell-out, his lyrics would be watered down. And they're not. You can say they're not as good all you want, but Eminem did not water down his lyrics. Cold Wind Blows is a good example. He still TRIES to be offensive and not kissing everyone's asses like an actual sell-out would do. The ONLY part that I actually agree with you on is apologizing for old albums. He obviously did that not for himself, but for the media and his casual fans. The beats are more appealing to a wider audience, but if you're one who cares about beats over lyrics (which you don't, from what I can tell, unless that's just a front) then the beats SHOULDN'T matter to you, so why even bring that up?

This right here.

Tech = sellout too? He's collabing with Wayne. That's pretty retarded.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Tech = sellout too? He's collabing with Wayne. That's pretty retarded.

This Exactly.

i really hope yall ignore class-thequeen cuz he is a retard.

[dead prez]

This right here.

Tech = sellout too? He's collabing with Wayne. That's pretty retarded.

I guess you could say that, people should stop being so offended if their favorite artists is supposedly selling out. I love k-os and he collabed with Drake...