Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

[slimsoxshady]

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[Evan C.]

The cliche "there are many black rappers who have better skill than Eminem but don't get the attention" line is ROOTED in racism. What the fuck do you expect?

Of COURSE this is a racial issue.

Not it's not a racial issue, the only people who make it out to be are the ones who just can't accept that some people believe that there are rappers better than Eminem. And again, the only people who bring race into are the ones who grew up in middle class suburbia and have never faced a day in their lives where they see real ugly racism occur.

Your entire point that Eminem struggled because of racism is bullshit. Artists like Jay-Z struggled hard as well, hell Jay's first album came out when he was 27 and he had the backing of people like Jaz and Big Daddy Kane and he still couldn't get signed. Eminem had deals at Rawkus, which is something thousands of rappers would kill for. Again, my point here is that like everything the music industry, it's a lot about luck, and neither Em or Jay were lucky enough to get it. Look at them now.

Of course black rappers who came from poverty like Jay-Z struggled. All EminemInsider said is that Eminem was at an immediate disadvantage as a rapper because of the color of his skin, which is of course, 100% right. It's like black quarterbacks in the NFL in the 1960's and 70's...since there hadn't been one who had really succeeded there before, many coaches were doubtful to play them over a white competitor. likewise, before Eminem, no white rapper had really established themselves as a lasting success in the genre (Besides the Beastie Boys, who are moreso rock/rap tweeners.)

And I'm amused at you speaking as if you know what people from middle class suburbia have and haven't seen.

Then for you to try and pull the reverse racism bullshit and call Dead Prez a racist is pathetic. I argue with DP more than anyone here, and not once have I ever seen anything in his comments to even remotely give any sign that he's racist. All this proves to me is that you're struggling so you have to pull out the race card. Here's something for you, and then I'm done with you, especially because I received a PM about your ways here. You're a Fox News watching redneck. You are listening to the music we created, this is your life now, bow down bitch.

Oh, I see, this is a "we vs. you" discussion. I don't think you're in a position to call anyone else racist.

[stillmatic]

Thanks for completing missing the point of my post, in particular the racism point.

Next time you'll do better, I'm sure of it.

[Evan C.]

Thanks for completing missing the point of my post, in particular the racism point.

Next time you'll do better, I'm sure of it.

When idiots are exposed it's always the same story, no one "gets" their point. You flipped because EminemInsider typed "black rappers" and then went into a line of BS about Jay-Z struggling also as if that refutes the fact that skin color hampered Eminem's ability to gain recognition early on.

[EminemInsider]

What's the whole point of this all the other rappers I referenced could do this so trying to educate me on that regard was pointless.

They can't do it as well as Eminem. What's the whole point of you bringing up punchlines, other than the fact that Eminem isn't a "punchline" emcee?

No they don't not anymore than "stupid" punchlines, they just make your flow complex but that's it.

Yep, you're clueless.

Based on your logic, Rock Bottom would be every bit as powerful lyrically if Eminem had written:

There's people that love me, and people that hate me
But it's the vileness that made me this backstabbing, a liar, and Shady
I want the money, the women, the fortune and fame
That means I'll end up in hell, burning in flames
That means I'm stealing your checkbook and writing your name
It's lifetime bliss for eternal suffering and pain

Doesn't sound so powerful anymore, does it? Gee, I wonder why.

I wonder why Mockingbird just sounds terrible and has no impact other than making one cringe, while his verse in the fourth verse of Going Through Changes hits home.

Ya know, maybe the sonic effect of language actually has an effect on its emotional impact.....

Except they're not forced, well not anymore than say any of Eminem's best multies.

So now you're basing this arbitary system which you pulled out of your ass on other genres to make a point? Fail

Yep. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...but nobody has imitated that yet. Pretty telling if you ask me.

If they're misplaced and have no business within being in context of the song than yes, but if they're placed appropriately at the right time than no.. They deserve to be they're every bit as much as these multies which you seem to have an overy boner for.

They rarely have any business being placed in concept songs, so what does that leave? Ehem...filler tracks.

Punchlines are a nice bonus when rappers are doing free verses and the like. They have nothing to do with what kind of "lyricist" someone is, though.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP BASING SHIT OFF MULTIES????? Nas is a much more prolific writer than Eminem, Memory Lane, Take it in Blood, hardly use multies but metaphors, creative diction just overall better writing than Eminem's best multies.

Still clinging to "metaphors," I see. What metaphors?

"Creative diction"...huh? Nas uses more street terminology than Eminem...for obvious reasons. That doesn't make him a "more prolific writer." It just makes him different stylistically.

It's official you have a fetish for multies you're basing being lyrically complex off multies rather than metaphors, diction, and whatnot.

Still clinging to "metaphors," I see. Still talking about "diction," I see. I notice you always end your lists with the word, "whatnot"...because you always run out after two things. You don't really have an argument, you're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

Rhymes yes, overall substance no.

Because you say so, right?

Again here comes you're overt boner for multies, criticising another artist for not having 10 syllables in one line.

For not aligning rhyme syllables, for not varying patterns in creative ways, for not thinking much about the overall sound of everything he's saying as a whole...yeah. I think that's fair game.

And he succeeds at it.

And Canibus succeeds at writing nonsensical psychobabble that idiots think is intelligent.

Because you make blatant assumptions for us refusing to accept Eminem as the GOAT because he's white, do you have alzheimers? When I'm not even black, not that it should discredit my argument either way if I was, cause you know that would be an ad hominem.

That has nothing to do with racism. Calling someone racist means you're asserting they believe in a racial hierarchical structure. Me telling you that YOUR racism if preventing you from giving Eminem his due doesn't make ME a racist.

I'm asian buddy not black so fucking fail on all accounts.

It doesn't matter. You're basing your argument on the sheer concern over the possibility of a white guy being better than all the black guys in his craft.

Yeah you're DEFINITELY racist.

You're DEFINITELY an idiot. You didn't understand a word of what I wrote (not surprising, considering you're an idiot). Re-read:

The white guy is out-numbered 10,000 to 1 yet he's better than all of them. They're afraid that if they acknowledge he's the best in this craft, the broader implications are that black people are therefore inferior.

Wow so you take a lyric off his song and base that as truth, I love how he can only have black people hate on him, yet when I claim that a lot of white kids put him on a pedestal because they can relate to him more, I'm a racist. Double standards ftw.

Huh? He was booed off stages when he first started rapping. That's undisputed FACT.

Nobody said "only black people hate on him." White people who are subconsciously afraid of the implications of a white guy being heavily outnumbered and still being superior to all other blacks in a given area also downplay his greatness. It's inverse discrimination in which they are trying to "balance the scales" in some way. People are afraid of the subtext being, "the one white guy who did it came in and was better than all the black guys. This suggests whites are superior to blacks in the aspects of being a rapper."

Well you certain did a shite job proving he's a better technical rapper than all the BLACK emcees.

If I made a post designed to fully prove that point, it would crash the server. Instead, we're both wasting our time with back-and-forth assertions with little to back them up.

Mczu never said black rappers he said rappers in general, than when you called him out assuming that he was referring to exclusively black rappers I called out you on your bullshit. When I said many rappers were on his level you automatically took it as exclusively black rappers, I just ran with it. It is true either way so it doesn't matter.

Well, I think it was pretty obvious. It was an assumption, yes...but then Mczu's post was ridiculous...and ridiculous opinions like that are nearly always borne from the racial consciousness I alluded to.

And as for you...every rapper you have mentioned in this thread to pit against Eminem...guess what race they are?! (well, except Aesop Rock, but that was a pretty obvious attempt to fill a quota).

You're fucking stupid now, metaphors and double entendres are rare in rap music? And I like how you just discredit them based on this arbitary system of punchlines, which coincidentally you're idol specializes in.

Never said double entendres are rare in rap music. Metaphors, however, ARE. Just because you don't know what a metaphor is doesn't mean they are commonly used.

So basically you're still pulling shit out off your ass and giving yourself some false sense of authority on the matter, of whether or not punchlines are important.

And what are you doing?

"Punchlines are important because I say so."

I'm explaining why punchlines are useless in my book. You're just asserting repeatedly that they are important and not going into any further detail. Apparently, 100% of the burden of proof is on me, but you can say whatever you want and not back up any of it and that's perfectly acceptable in your world.

We have a word for this...it's called "hypocrisy."

Which you seem to think revolves around multies only... And tons of rappers don't even focus on multies either so that point is moot.

Rappers who don't use multis with at least SOME regularity...find themselves nowhere near any real listener's "Top Rappers" lists.

Who cares what other genres use, why you''re basing you're argument on whether other genres do it or not?

Because genres are generally all tied to one another. They affect each other. Other genres have impacted rap, and vice-versa. You can see numerous elements cross over. Multis actually didn't even originate in rap music.

But punchlines...nobody touches those with a ten foot pole outside of rappers. And what's largely responsible for ruining Eminem's post-Relapse music? You guessed it - punchlines.

How so?

Because you have to think in terms of a series of words as opposed to just finding a word to end a bar with. Rather than writing bar-to-bar, you're connecting blocks of words together on a given subject and filling in the rest.

Stop using this stupid nobody outside of rap uses punchlines excuse, it's fucking retarded and doesn't mean shit. All you're doing is appealing to tradition with your argument being, "It's done in other genres so that makes it more legit than one that isn't yep."

Great art is imitated. Punchlines aren't and...I'm going to go out on a limb here...I'm going to say they never WILL be. Hmmmm.

Who cares what people who aren't rap fans think.

Some of them are still kind of smart.

So now you're trying to simplify the complexity of making a good double entendre into nothing but "I'm hotter than the sun " type punchline? Which is every bit as retarded as me claiming that multies are nothing but gimmicky lines used to make your raps sound hot, because you lack delivery and what not.

And if they go over you're head the first time,

The majority of double entendres and punchlines in rap music as a whole are duds. Even the top guys flop on probably about 50% of the ones they attempt. Even when they pull it off...so fucking what? Good for 1-2 listens.

I could say the same for pulling off amazing multies really, so.

No. Great rhyming never gets old. I can play Eminem's "Hellbound" verse over and over again and not get tired of it.

Yeah they are, Eminem when telling stories isn't as lyrically complex as his generic freestyle verses of I'll kill you. He sacrifices technicality for substance.

Uh, no. Brain Damage is every bit as good rhyme scheme-wise as any other song he was doing back then. He loses nothing rhyme-wise when writing about something. For fuck's sake, his most complex and detailed rhyme scheme of all-time was in "Lose Yourself."

What kind of stupid as reasoning is this? Hahahahaha, you use videos on youtube to prove a point as to why the song is more vivid?

Are you seriously this stupid?

I'm using the fact that someone can easily make a video that is exactly how everybody else pictured the song to demonstrate how Eminem is a phenomenal story teller. He paints a vivid picture.

Yeah he was just rhyming gibberish with multies, like on Infinite where he was just reaching for rhymes. Like "Man I got evidence I'm never dense and I've been clever ever since my residence was hesitant to do some shit that represents". Nothing but rhyming common big words without really saying anything.

Who cares about Infinite?

That track is an anomaly in Eminem's history.

So wait you're really trying to claim that his misogynistic lyrics went over people's heads? Maybe suburban moms who wouldn't want their kids listening to his music, or gay people with his obvious homophobic lyrics. But no

Except the lyrics in question were blatantly sarcastic, as he made clear not only through the intro, but the way he concluded it and what he was saying throughout the song.

"I'm the bad guy/Who makes fun of people that die/In plane crashes/And laughs as long as it ain't happen/To him"

You're a complete idiot who can't even understand the significance of Eminem's lyrics YOURSELF. You prove the very point I'm making.

More like Eminem can't do a song like that or you had to look up the meaning to it online to really appreciate the full meaning of it.

The concept is in the chorus...the verses are just his token "look at me mixing intentionally vague references to concepts with forced double-entendre/punchlines" mixed with shit that, well...doesn't actually make sense. He hovers around the point but because he's trying so hard to not actually say what he means, it doesn't actually work. One line he says he's "earless," the next he says, "my iris resides where my ears is"...I guess in some attempt to allude to the fact that listeners "see" through their ears. But then they're not "earless," now, are they?

This is what happens when you bite off more than you can chew. This song is a train wreck.

So basically you're missing the whole point of the song and just focusing on his punchlines?

What's the point of the song, genius? "I'm too complex for you and listeners want me to dumb down my musikz?" It's just a pretentious version of a "brag" track.

Like what how his mom's a drugg addict, while crying about how daddy left me?

So now you're putting words in my mouth. Great.

But yeah...I'll take any songs of that theme (Cleanin Out My Closet) over "Dumb It Down."

[VenomBlackViper]

What's the whole point of this all the other rappers I referenced could do this so trying to educate me on that regard was pointless.

They can't do it as well as Eminem. What's the whole point of you bringing up punchlines, other than the fact that Eminem isn't a "punchline" emcee?

No they don't not anymore than "stupid" punchlines, they just make your flow complex but that's it.

Yep, you're clueless.

Based on your logic, Rock Bottom would be every bit as powerful lyrically if Eminem had written:

There's people that love me, and people that hate me
But it's the vileness that made me this backstabbing, a liar, and Shady
I want the money, the women, the fortune and fame
That means I'll end up in hell, burning in flames
That means I'm stealing your checkbook and writing your name
It's lifetime bliss for eternal suffering and pain

Doesn't sound so powerful anymore, does it? Gee, I wonder why.

I wonder why Mockingbird just sounds terrible and has no impact other than making one cringe, while his verse in the fourth verse of Going Through Changes hits home.

Ya know, maybe the sonic effect of language actually has an effect on its emotional impact.....

Except they're not forced, well not anymore than say any of Eminem's best multies.

So now you're basing this arbitary system which you pulled out of your ass on other genres to make a point? Fail

Yep. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...but nobody has imitated that yet. Pretty telling if you ask me.

If they're misplaced and have no business within being in context of the song than yes, but if they're placed appropriately at the right time than no.. They deserve to be they're every bit as much as these multies which you seem to have an overy boner for.

They rarely have any business being placed in concept songs, so what does that leave? Ehem...filler tracks.

Punchlines are a nice bonus when rappers are doing free verses and the like. They have nothing to do with what kind of "lyricist" someone is, though.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP BASING SHIT OFF MULTIES????? Nas is a much more prolific writer than Eminem, Memory Lane, Take it in Blood, hardly use multies but metaphors, creative diction just overall better writing than Eminem's best multies.

Still clinging to "metaphors," I see. What metaphors?

"Creative diction"...huh? Nas uses more street terminology than Eminem...for obvious reasons. That doesn't make him a "more prolific writer." It just makes him different stylistically.

It's official you have a fetish for multies you're basing being lyrically complex off multies rather than metaphors, diction, and whatnot.

Still clinging to "metaphors," I see. Still talking about "diction," I see. I notice you always end your lists with the word, "whatnot"...because you always run out after two things. You don't really have an argument, you're just throwing shit against the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

Rhymes yes, overall substance no.

Because you say so, right?

Again here comes you're overt boner for multies, criticising another artist for not having 10 syllables in one line.

For not aligning rhyme syllables, for not varying patterns in creative ways, for not thinking much about the overall sound of everything he's saying as a whole...yeah. I think that's fair game.

And he succeeds at it.

And Canibus succeeds at writing nonsensical psychobabble that idiots think is intelligent.

Because you make blatant assumptions for us refusing to accept Eminem as the GOAT because he's white, do you have alzheimers? When I'm not even black, not that it should discredit my argument either way if I was, cause you know that would be an ad hominem.

That has nothing to do with racism. Calling someone racist means you're asserting they believe in a racial hierarchical structure. Me telling you that YOUR racism if preventing you from giving Eminem his due doesn't make ME a racist.

I'm asian buddy not black so fucking fail on all accounts.

It doesn't matter. You're basing your argument on the sheer concern over the possibility of a white guy being better than all the black guys in his craft.

Yeah you're DEFINITELY racist.

You're DEFINITELY an idiot. You didn't understand a word of what I wrote (not surprising, considering you're an idiot). Re-read:

The white guy is out-numbered 10,000 to 1 yet he's better than all of them. They're afraid that if they acknowledge he's the best in this craft, the broader implications are that black people are therefore inferior.

Wow so you take a lyric off his song and base that as truth, I love how he can only have black people hate on him, yet when I claim that a lot of white kids put him on a pedestal because they can relate to him more, I'm a racist. Double standards ftw.

Huh? He was booed off stages when he first started rapping. That's undisputed FACT.

Nobody said "only black people hate on him." White people who are subconsciously afraid of the implications of a white guy being heavily outnumbered and still being superior to all other blacks in a given area also downplay his greatness. It's inverse discrimination in which they are trying to "balance the scales" in some way. People are afraid of the subtext being, "the one white guy who did it came in and was better than all the black guys. This suggests whites are superior to blacks in the aspects of being a rapper."

Well you certain did a shite job proving he's a better technical rapper than all the BLACK emcees.

If I made a post designed to fully prove that point, it would crash the server. Instead, we're both wasting our time with back-and-forth assertions with little to back them up.

Mczu never said black rappers he said rappers in general, than when you called him out assuming that he was referring to exclusively black rappers I called out you on your bullshit. When I said many rappers were on his level you automatically took it as exclusively black rappers, I just ran with it. It is true either way so it doesn't matter.

Well, I think it was pretty obvious. It was an assumption, yes...but then Mczu's post was ridiculous...and ridiculous opinions like that are nearly always borne from the racial consciousness I alluded to.

And as for you...every rapper you have mentioned in this thread to pit against Eminem...guess what race they are?!

You're fucking stupid now, metaphors and double entendres are rare in rap music? And I like how you just discredit them based on this arbitary system of punchlines, which coincidentally you're idol specializes in.

Never said double entendres are rare in rap music. Metaphors, however, ARE. Just because you don't know what a metaphor is doesn't mean they are commonly used.

So basically you're still pulling shit out off your ass and giving yourself some false sense of authority on the matter, of whether or not punchlines are important.

And what are you doing?

"Punchlines are important because I say so."

I'm explaining why punchlines are useless in my book. You're just asserting repeatedly that they are important and not going into any further detail. Apparently, 100% of the burden of proof is on me, but you can say whatever you want and not back up any of it and that's perfectly acceptable in your world.

We have a word for this...it's called "hypocrisy."

Which you seem to think revolves around multies only... And tons of rappers don't even focus on multies either so that point is moot.

Rappers who don't use multis with at least SOME regularity...find themselves nowhere near any real listener's "Top Rappers" lists.

Who cares what other genres use, why you''re basing you're argument on whether other genres do it or not?

Because genres are generally all tied to one another. They affect each other. Other genres have impacted rap, and vice-versa. You can see numerous elements cross over. Multis actually didn't even originate in rap music.

But punchlines...nobody touches those with a ten foot pole outside of rappers. And what's largely responsible for ruining Eminem's post-Relapse music? You guessed it - punchlines.

How so?

Because you have to think in terms of a series of words as opposed to just finding a word to end a bar with. Rather than writing bar-to-bar, you're connecting blocks of words together on a given subject and filling in the rest.

Stop using this stupid nobody outside of rap uses punchlines excuse, it's fucking retarded and doesn't mean shit. All you're doing is appealing to tradition with your argument being, "It's done in other genres so that makes it more legit than one that isn't yep."

Great art is imitated. Punchlines aren't and...I'm going to go out on a limb here...I'm going to say they never WILL be. Hmmmm.

Who cares what people who aren't rap fans think.

Some of them are still kind of smart.

So now you're trying to simplify the complexity of making a good double entendre into nothing but "I'm hotter than the sun " type punchline? Which is every bit as retarded as me claiming that multies are nothing but gimmicky lines used to make your raps sound hot, because you lack delivery and what not.

And if they go over you're head the first time,

The majority of double entendres and punchlines in rap music as a whole are duds. Even the top guys flop on probably about 50% of the ones they attempt. Even when they pull it off...so fucking what? Good for 1-2 listens.

I could say the same for pulling off amazing multies really, so.

No. Great rhyming never gets old. I can play Eminem's "Hellbound" verse over and over again and not get tired of it.

Yeah they are, Eminem when telling stories isn't as lyrically complex as his generic freestyle verses of I'll kill you. He sacrifices technicality for substance.

Uh, no. Brain Damage is every bit as good rhyme scheme-wise as any other song he was doing back then. He loses nothing rhyme-wise when writing about something. For fuck's sake, his most complex and detailed rhyme scheme of all-time was in "Lose Yourself."

What kind of stupid as reasoning is this? Hahahahaha, you use videos on youtube to prove a point as to why the song is more vivid?

Are you seriously this stupid?

I'm using the fact that someone can easily make a video that is exactly how everybody else pictured the song to demonstrate how Eminem is a phenomenal story teller. He paints a vivid picture.

Yeah he was just rhyming gibberish with multies, like on Infinite where he was just reaching for rhymes. Like "Man I got evidence I'm never dense and I've been clever ever since my residence was hesitant to do some shit that represents". Nothing but rhyming common big words without really saying anything.

Who cares about Infinite?

That track is an anomaly in Eminem's history.

So wait you're really trying to claim that his misogynistic lyrics went over people's heads? Maybe suburban moms who wouldn't want their kids listening to his music, or gay people with his obvious homophobic lyrics. But no

Except the lyrics in question were blatantly sarcastic, as he made clear not only through the intro, but the way he concluded it and what he was saying throughout the song.

"I'm the bad guy/Who makes fun of people that die/In plane crashes/And laughs as long as it ain't happen/To him"

You're a complete idiot who can't even understand the significance of Eminem's lyrics YOURSELF. You prove the very point I'm making.

More like Eminem can't do a song like that or you had to look up the meaning to it online to really appreciate the full meaning of it.

The concept is in the chorus...the verses are just his token "look at me mixing intentionally vague references to concepts with forced double-entendre/punchlines" mixed with shit that, well...doesn't actually make sense. He hovers around the point but because he's trying so hard to not actually say what he means, it doesn't actually work. One line he says he's "earless," the next he says, "my iris resides where my ears is"...I guess in some attempt to allude to the fact that listeners "see" through their ears. But then they're not "earless," now, are they?

This is what happens when you bite off more than you can chew. This song is a train wreck.

So basically you're missing the whole point of the song and just focusing on his punchlines?

What's the point of the song, genius? "I'm too complex for you and listeners want me to dumb down my musikz?" It's just a pretentious version of a "brag" track.

Like what how his mom's a drugg addict, while crying about how daddy left me?

So now you're putting words in my mouth. Great.

But yeah...I'll take any songs of that theme (Cleanin Out My Closet) over "Dumb It Down."

Quoted to make this page longer.

[stillmatic]

Thanks for completing missing the point of my post, in particular the racism point.

Next time you'll do better, I'm sure of it.

When idiots are exposed it's always the same story, no one "gets" their point. You flipped because EminemInsider typed "black rappers" and then went into a line of BS about Jay-Z struggling also as if that refutes the fact that skin color hampered Eminem's ability to gain recognition early on.

Actually, we're on completely different wave lengths right now, that's why I don't feel like bothering with you.

Plus your signature scares me, I don't think I'm Ice Cube enough to take down a whole squad of villains like yourself and the redneck. Except the situation is flipped upside down here, what with NWA being all black and all and you guys being....you know...the opposite of what NWA was.

[M15HKA]

Right now I prefer Lowkey over him(Guy who was on the Voice of the Voiceless track with Immortal Tech).

I know it wasn't about who murdered who, but Lowkey absolutey destroyed him on Voice Of The Voiceless.

Lowkey is the kind of political rapper I love. He makes it so much more interesting than someone like IT. Plus he deals with stuff on a much more social level (first few lines of Terrorist), while still keeping it in a political, broad context. (And still rhyming incredibly, of course).

Agree mate, he speaks to many people worldwide. I think his next album will be the best album I have ever listened to. Just the direction and constant improvement seems to indicate that.

[EminemInsider]

Thanks for completing missing the point of my post, in particular the racism point.

Next time you'll do better, I'm sure of it.

When idiots are exposed it's always the same story, no one "gets" their point. You flipped because EminemInsider typed "black rappers" and then went into a line of BS about Jay-Z struggling also as if that refutes the fact that skin color hampered Eminem's ability to gain recognition early on.

Actually, we're on completely different wave lengths right now, that's why I don't feel like bothering with you.

Plus your signature scares me, I don't think I'm Ice Cube enough to take down a whole squad of villains like yourself and the redneck. Except the situation is flipped upside down here, what with NWA being all black and all and you guys being....you know...the opposite of what NWA was.

We're not the real villains. The government is owning your posts through controlled demolition, then paying off all the media outlets to cover it up.

[VenomBlackViper]

Actually, we're on completely different wave lengths right now, that's why I don't feel like bothering with you.

Plus your signature scares me, I don't think I'm Ice Cube enough to take down a whole squad of villains like yourself and the redneck. Except the situation is flipped upside down here, what with NWA being all black and all and you guys being....you know...the opposite of what NWA was.

We're not the real villains. The government is owning your posts through controlled demolition, then paying off all the media outlets to cover it up.

[stillmatic]

We're not the real villains. The government is owning your posts through controlled demolition, then paying off all the media outlets to cover it up.

It's all the same. My momma taught me that the white man is the devil, so it's all the same, it's all to do with the big evil white man running things.

Now excuse me, I gotta get in my Cadillac and drive to the supermarket and get me some watermelon and some fried chicken.

[ThomasJ]

Since this has turned into a free-post thread...

Nas > Eminem.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Eminem is the one rapper everyone tries to put an asterisk beside..."overhyped because of this, that, and this."

This is the only thing worthy in this thread.

its a bandwagon that people jump on.

Eminem is the Greatest Rapper Of All Time in terms of anything,and this is a fact.

[classthe_king]

Eminem is the one rapper everyone tries to put an asterisk beside..."overhyped because of this, that, and this."

This is the only thing worthy in this thread.

its a bandwagon that people jump on.

Eminem is the Greatest Rapper Of All Time in terms of anything,and this is a fact.

And Emineminsider

You sir, are fucking moron. Did the thought ever cross your mind that people aren't being racist when they don't say that Eminem is the GOAT they just actually believe that there are rappers better than Eminem?

[Mahmoud48]

Eminem in his prime > ur favorite rappers prime
thats a fact and if anyone disagrees there complete morons