Eminem vs Immortal Technique?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

If you were any better you would be the bigger person. Sinking down to Class' level? For shame.

Trying to be the bigger person gets harder as this thread progresses...

@class:



You make me laugh, troll. Produce ACTUAL facts and not your OPINION and then I'll agree with you

[rinnie1207]

Anyone else here like oreos?

lmao

[xxTrigger1989xx]

wow, thank you for giving me the exact lines that made me hate what he has become

"Who forms pyramids and raps circles around square lyricists" honestly isn't a good line to you?

[Devil'sAdvocate]

wow, thank you for giving me the exact lines that made me hate what he has become

Can u think of those?

again u jumpin on the bandwagon.

[classthe_king]

No, none of those punchlines are good If you actually listened to good rap you would know what a good punchline was. I have much better punchlines than that

Eminem sold out because:

-He changed his beat style. Did you know on his first 5 albums he only did beats from 4 different producers. On Recovery he did beats with 11 different producers. Compared to all previous albums, these beats were much more mainstream

-He changed up his lyrical style completely. Instead of his normal funny, witty humor he went to doing those ridiculous Lil Wayne style punchlines that everyone else is doing. ie:
-So long, til then I drop the fucking bombs like I missed the pass when I went long,
-I'm bananas pussy, cut off the grapes and grow a pair,
-Brain dead rims, yeah stupid wheels,
-I'll cut my toes off and step on the receipt before I foot the bill,
-I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said "Settle ya fuckin ass down I'm ready for combat man!"
-I'm an uncooked slab of beef laying on your kitchen floor..In other words I'm off the meat rack

-His ONLY collabs on the album were Pink, Rihanna and Lil Wayne. You can say he genuinely wanted to work with them or whatever you want but everyone knows that's bullshit. Eminem could have done songs with Cashis or any other shady records rapper to try and promote them, he could have done songs with legends like Nas or Raekwon or he could have found dope new rappers like J Cole to do songs with. But no he chose Lil Wayne because "he thinks he's dope and really wants to work with him" Or is that what Interscope told him to say?

P.S Wilymo still doesn't know what a paradox is.

Facts ^^^

[VenomBlackViper]

I beat off to this picture on a daily basis.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

No, none of those punchlines are good If you actually listened to good rap you would know what a good punchline was. I have much better punchlines than that

Eminem sold out because:

-He changed his beat style. Did you know on his first 5 albums he only did beats from 4 different producers. On Recovery he did beats with 11 different producers. Compared to all previous albums, these beats were much more mainstream

-He changed up his lyrical style completely. Instead of his normal funny, witty humor he went to doing those ridiculous Lil Wayne style punchlines that everyone else is doing. ie:
-So long, til then I drop the fucking bombs like I missed the pass when I went long,
-I'm bananas pussy, cut off the grapes and grow a pair,
-Brain dead rims, yeah stupid wheels,
-I'll cut my toes off and step on the receipt before I foot the bill,
-I gave Bruce Wayne a Valium and said "Settle ya fuckin ass down I'm ready for combat man!"
-I'm an uncooked slab of beef laying on your kitchen floor..In other words I'm off the meat rack

-His ONLY collabs on the album were Pink, Rihanna and Lil Wayne. You can say he genuinely wanted to work with them or whatever you want but everyone knows that's bullshit. Eminem could have done songs with Cashis or any other shady records rapper to try and promote them, he could have done songs with legends like Nas or Raekwon or he could have found dope new rappers like J Cole to do songs with. But no he chose Lil Wayne because "he thinks he's dope and really wants to work with him" Or is that what Interscope told him to say?

P.S Wilymo still doesn't know what a paradox is.

Facts ^^^

LOL at you assuming I don't listen to other rap. Please, don't act like you know me, you don't

NOT solid facts, troll. Try harder. Those are YOUR OPINIONS. Open your mind up and realize that not everything you say is fact. You personally don't like those lines, that's fine, but that doesn't make it fact

[classthe_king]

And yet there is nothing that can dispute those "opinions"

What the fuck have you said that proves otherwise?

[Devil'sAdvocate]

i listen to far more better rappers than you.

[classthe_king]

Devil's Advoate, shut the fuck up. You're an idiot and you have proved that countless times.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

trigger said those 2 things

im rephrasing tho.

beats dont make you a sell out.

FACT

Collabs dont make you a sell out.

FACT

newsflash class,you are not always right,you are not the smartest person here,you are just a piece of shit.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

And yet there is nothing that can dispute those "opinions"

What the fuck have you said that proves otherwise?

What the fuck have you said that proves those are facts? Nothing

I've STATED a thousand times why I like Eminem and why he is my personal favorite artist. I've explained to you that Eminem said those things in those interviews, which are the only solid facts we have to determine if Em collaborated with them because he wanted to or because Interscope told him. Only HE knows if he really likes Wayne, so what makes you think that you know Em better than he knows himself? But you don't seem to care too much, and completely ignore what's being said because you don't like it. I'm sorry that you don't agree, but MOVE ON, please. You're not changing anyone's minds here at all, just like we're not changing yours. We're wasting our fucking time here, do you not see that?

[Satire]

Holy shit @ this thread. I go to sleep and it gets 6 more pages

Let's end this once and for all...

1. Eminem in his prime was one of the best to ever do it. Pretty much undeniable. The best? Arguable, but I'd definitely say so myself. He pretty much had it all, I can't believe Zu said that you'd be stupid to say he's one of the best.

2. To say multies is only what he's great for is ridiculous as well. Imagery, word choice, storytelling, concepts, variety, wit, humour, satire - master of all. Add effortless multies to that and you have someone who was ridiculously good.

3. Best right now? Not even close, Black Thought, Copy, Hopsin, Nas, Lowkey and a bunch of other underground rappers are all wayyy ahead of him. He's still good, just not that good.

4. What's the point of being on a discussion board if, when you're in a discussion, you go "it's just my opinion. It cant be wrong"? Back it up, keep debating. The whole 'it's my opinion' thing is so annoying, it's just a cop-out when you can't back up your point. People dont give a shit about others saying "my opinion" cus it just annoying and kills any debate.

And opinions can't be wrong? Okay, in my opinion, they can be wrong. What do you say to that? That's a bit of a mind-fuck, right?

You guys should have ended it right here

[VenomBlackViper]

I'm wasting time like throwing a clock in the trash.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

LOL

like i give 2 lousy shits about who am i in your point of view.

get a life and fuck outta here u lame ass dick.