What don't you like about Recovery?

[shadyboymez]

very nice Kez, long post but well worth reading

[rinnie1207]

There is really only 2 things I don't like about Recovery. The production is the first thing I don't like. Like alot of people have already said. Theres just no signature sound. And WTP. For some reason, I can't stand that song.

[slimfan94]

There is really only 2 things I don't like about Recovery. The production is the first thing I don't like. Like alot of people have already said. Theres just no signature sound. And WTP. For some reason, I can't stand that song.

This. but let it be known i love recovery

[Emadyville]

@Kez sort of, but a general thing I think should be considered when thinking about recovery.

Remember how every album he had was in some way different? And it stood out because it was different, good or bad, like encore and relapse...some people love them, more hate encore than relapse, but they receive the most hate I think from em fans, but anyway.

The fact is, recovery was completely different than what he has done, and even in it's similarities in content (cold wind blows is a perfect example) he still did these tracks differently, and this made the album itself so different. Why can't that be a good thing?

Yeah punchlines or wordplay might be corny, but that is this album. He doesn't always rehash his style or ways of writing, while content and general ideas in his material is often the same or similar, he is always different...and I think that while people may hate it, or simply dislike it, why can't that still be viewed as good? My point may be better explained simply by using relapse as an example: the accents most hated, the content was similar but more intense and showed up in more songs (killing), but it was different than any other album.

One thing I think makes him so unique as an artist, and especially a rap artist because rap all about people's opinion and is always debated...is his ability to do songs about so many things, in so many ways, throughout his entire career. Nobody else comes close to this, especially when you break down his categorical songs.

What I mean is, he does serious songs, personal songs, story-telling songs, angry songs, funny songs, diss songs, drug songs, concept tracks, lyrical songs, political songs, party/club, love songs, hateful songs, ironic songs, songs with accents, yelling, skits, he does everything. And what I mean by breaking them down further is for example:

White America- Serious, political, personal, irony, etc
As The World Turns-Story telling, lyrical, funny, etc.
Marshall Mathers- Angry, personal, serious, diss, irony, etc.
WTP-Funny, party/club, story-telling, maybe personal, etc.
Lose Yourself- Serious, personal, story-telling, lyrical, angry, etc.
Almost Famous-Angry, funny, personal, serious, etc.

The point is, I feel we overlook sometimes what songs or in this case albums mean for his music on a larger scale, and while breaking it down is fine, we have to remember without trying new things he would never get to the songs we do love. And his old music is old music, he cannot remain the same, but the fact we still care and listen and comment in these type of threads I think shows that he is still putting out great music because if he wasn’t and none of us listened anymore, we wouldn’t care enough to even read these topics. Just my thoughts tho…

[mdemaz]

@Kez sort of, but a general thing I think should be considered when thinking about recovery.

Remember how every album he had was in some way different? And it stood out because it was different, good or bad, like encore and relapse...some people love them, more hate encore than relapse, but they receive the most hate I think from em fans, but anyway.

The fact is, recovery was completely different than what he has done, and even in it's similarities in content (cold wind blows is a perfect example) he still did these tracks differently, and this made the album itself so different. Why can't that be a good thing?

Yeah punchlines or wordplay might be corny, but that is this album. He doesn't always rehash his style or ways of writing, while content and general ideas in his material is often the same or similar, he is always different...and I think that while people may hate it, or simply dislike it, why can't that still be viewed as good? My point may be better explained simply by using relapse as an example: the accents most hated, the content was similar but more intense and showed up in more songs (killing), but it was different than any other album.

One thing I think makes him so unique as an artist, and especially a rap artist because rap all about people's opinion and is always debated...is his ability to do songs about so many things, in so many ways, throughout his entire career. Nobody else comes close to this, especially when you break down his categorical songs.

What I mean is, he does serious songs, personal songs, story-telling songs, angry songs, funny songs, diss songs, drug songs, concept tracks, lyrical songs, political songs, party/club, love songs, hateful songs, ironic songs, songs with accents, yelling, skits, he does everything. And what I mean by breaking them down further is for example:

White America- Serious, political, personal, irony, etc
As The World Turns-Story telling, lyrical, funny, etc.
Marshall Mathers- Angry, personal, serious, diss, irony, etc.
WTP-Funny, party/club, story-telling, maybe personal, etc.
Lose Yourself- Serious, personal, story-telling, lyrical, angry, etc.
Almost Famous-Angry, funny, personal, serious, etc.

The point is, I feel we overlook sometimes what songs or in this case albums mean for his music on a larger scale, and while breaking it down is fine, we have to remember without trying new things he would never get to the songs we do love. And his old music is old music, he cannot remain the same, but the fact we still care and listen and comment in these type of threads I think shows that he is still putting out great music because if he wasn’t and none of us listened anymore, we wouldn’t care enough to even read these topics. Just my thoughts tho…

Word bra bra.

[Manly Moose]

I wonder if Em is under the impression that Lil Wayne is well respected. He doesnt go on the internet much so he very well could think that (Explaining the punchlines)

[M+M]

The only thing I dislike about the album is 1 or 2 songs and the beats don't really stand out and are not that memorable, 'Lose Yourself' being an example of a memorable beat.

[Almostlity]

- the production is all over the place, and has no signature sound
- the beats are just typical to what is being heard today, he didn't go above and beyond
- eminem used to say "just dont give a fuck", but clearly on this album he does
- he collaborated with artists i never wanted to hear in an eminem song (rihanna, lil wayne)
- overall, it just doesn't give me the feeling that his past albums had given me...it is lacking in personality

this + his singing (which is fucking horrible) + kez's post

[SajN]

- the production is all over the place, and has no signature sound
- the beats are just typical to what is being heard today, he didn't go above and beyond
- eminem used to say "just dont give a fuck", but clearly on this album he does
- he collaborated with artists i never wanted to hear in an eminem song (rihanna, lil wayne)
- overall, it just doesn't give me the feeling that his past albums had given me...it is lacking in personality

this + his singing (which is fucking horrible) + kez's post

But I thought you didn't like Relapse? Or am I wrong?

Where the fuck is that thinking smiley??? Goddamn it

[Rash J]

- the production is all over the place, and has no signature sound
- the beats are just typical to what is being heard today, he didn't go above and beyond
- eminem used to say "just dont give a fuck", but clearly on this album he does
- he collaborated with artists i never wanted to hear in an eminem song (rihanna, lil wayne)
- overall, it just doesn't give me the feeling that his past albums had given me...it is lacking in personality

Pretty much

[VenomBlackViper]

Pretty much what Kez said, especially with chicks thinking Eminem is some kinda sweet guy after hearing one or two songs by him. The production works on some songs but feels generic on others like it's something Eminem shouldn't rap over. The hooks on some of the songs are annoying as shit, especially LTYL, Spacebound and Going Through Changes. His punchlines are hit or miss, I don't see a big similarity to Waynes style though.

[extremerecovery]

My main gripe is how so many people have gripes about this album and say it's not Eminem, why can't he go to the old Em, yadda yadda yadda.

It's an overall solid album, it could have been leagues worse... do we really want another Encore?

And all the folks complaining about the yelling, folks complained about Em doing the accents on Relapse and honestly, he's not even yelling. You want yelling, go listen to Kim from MMLP, THAT is yelling.

Recovery was made for commercial appeal, so of course it's going to have watered down beats, but at least we're not hearing auto-tune.

Take this album and compare it to the other garbage being peddled on the airwaves as "rap" and you'll see that this album is not that bad. It's not perfect, but then again, no rap album is perfect.

I've also read posts hating on LTWYL: at least it's not California Gurls with Snoop Dogg for crying out loud!

I take Recovery for what it is: hot music from Eminem. People should be happy that Eminem is putting out music at all, that way we aren't forced to listen to Lady Gaga, the Black Eyed Peas, and others nonstop.

[IrishShady]

I think it's perfect...

[zebreniuc]

- the production is all over the place, and has no signature sound
- the beats are just typical to what is being heard today, he didn't go above and beyond
- eminem used to say "just dont give a fuck", but clearly on this album he does
- he collaborated with artists i never wanted to hear in an eminem song (rihanna, lil wayne)
- overall, it just doesn't give me the feeling that his past albums had given me...it is lacking in personality

[zebreniuc]

firstly Recovery is totally against his own song No Apologies
he is no more gangsta
and more than dat, he had a few songs that could fit on Encore or Relapse
for me Crazy In Love>Love The Way You Lie
and i've never liked crazy in love
the production is