What don't you like about Recovery?

[j04370859]

firstly Recovery is totally against his own song No Apologies
he is no more gangsta
and more than dat, he had a few songs that could fit on Encore or Relapse
for me Crazy In Love>Love The Way You Lie
and i've never liked crazy in love
the production is

How exactly was recovery going against no apologies and he was never a gangsta

[MikeNUFC]

-Fucking punchlines. I mean, why? He's never been a punchline rapper! 313 was the ONLY song I've heard him really do punchlines on (and they were shitty) before Recovery. Yet he sticks them all over the album, sometimes in the stupidiest places (LTYWL/YNO). They seem to dominate his verses but they're so bad and anyone can do them (see my 'Make Your Own Recovery Punchline' thread). Won't Back Down is the epitomy of this - just shitty puns after shitty puns after shitty puns.

-His flow. Wasn't perfect on Relapse by any means but it was smooth. On Recovery it was shitty, all over the place. Bar-spllitting everywhere. It was done in such a way (non-lineary) that you can't even pick up half his rhymes.

-Production. Boi-1da is one of the worst producers I've ever heard. Dreadful. The album has no signature sound. The best production on the album? So Bad & On Fire - production Em's used to. And did he flow best on those? I'd say so.

-Not Afraid - saddens me that Em ever released this. Admittely, it's so bad it's funny, but when I see people listening to this and loving it it embarrases me. He released this shit? As a lead single?! "fuck the world, feed it beans" line is possibly the worst of his career (the 'jokey' songs on Encore aside). The bridge and hook are so ridiculously melodramatic it's cringey.

-Apologising for Relapse. Why? He felt it was right at the time, why should he need to apologise it afterwards? He chucks Relapse in the trash? Where the fuck does he put Encore?

[N.W.A.]

First and foremost the production. That's the killer for me. And I hate hearing him put down Relapse, I like Relapse way moer than Recovery and it makes him seem like he's listening to critics and reveiwers and trying to make them happy with Recovery.

[KillahBee]

My main problem is the fact that he made an album he felt he had to make rather than what he actually wanted to make, so much om here just sounds so forced its unbearable for me to listen to now

Other problems for me

-Shitty punchlines
-Some cringe-worthy wordplay (the window-pain line )
-Corny lyrics
-Poor flow
-Poor album structure (doesn't flow together at all imo, bar the middle of the album)
-Saying that Kanye and Lil Wayne would have "handed my ass to me", honestly how fucking sad is that
-Some awful production/no cohessive sound
-Tiresome delivery (after 2 full listens I found the album a chore to listen to from front to back)

Don't get me wrong, there are some good, even great, verses and songs on Recovery, but 8 months after its release I've found that there is just so much shit present on the album that I have to say bar Encore, its Ems weakest record

[Devil'sAdvocate]

The Production is just so meh,like he just got random shit and rapped on.

some of the punchlines.

he didnt YELL on the album at all BTW.

[Hiphopdane]

- A few of the punchlines
- No signature sound
- A few of the tracks don't really fit lyrically (On fire and Untitled?)
- His hook on You're never over

Other than that, it is a good album. I don't mind the flows and shouting. Instead of complaining I rather give him props for actually trying something new although it ended up being the main flaws of the album.

If you take the best tracks from Recovery and Relapse and put them together, you have a truly brilliant album (and yes, I know it wouldn't be coherent at all but you get my point).

I would love to hear him on an all produced Mr. Porter or Kanye West album next time. I expect him to stick to Alex da kid and Boi-1da though :/

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I don't have that big of a problem with the production as others do. Despite people say "it's all over the place", Recovery DOES have an overall "sound", and I can tell it. There's an ultimate theme, and the production isn't that bad in presenting it. The production still isn't that good, for an Eminem album, but as a rap album...the production is actually quite good...I just really hope for his next album he produces his own tracks, along with some Dre

Also, drop some of the lame punchlines (not all were lame, I actually like most of them, but some were not good) and replace Won't Back Down and W.T.P. with Cocaine and Fly Away and we'll have a better album. And also, Em should have done most of the hooks...too much sampling/other singers on hooks for my tastes

Other than that, I love Recovery. And I agree, no one was even bitching about the "shouting" until Roman's Revenge, so fuck the people jumping on the bandwagon...seriously, the Recovery hate is getting old. If you don't like Recovery, don't fucking listen

[zebreniuc]

firstly Recovery is totally against his own song No Apologies
he is no more gangsta
and more than dat, he had a few songs that could fit on Encore or Relapse
for me Crazy In Love>Love The Way You Lie
and i've never liked crazy in love
the production is

How exactly was recovery going against no apologies and he was never a gangsta

in the song No Apologies he said theat he was a "G" and he never apologizes in the chorus
well, he apologizes now alot

[j04370859]

firstly Recovery is totally against his own song No Apologies
he is no more gangsta
and more than dat, he had a few songs that could fit on Encore or Relapse
for me Crazy In Love>Love The Way You Lie
and i've never liked crazy in love
the production is

How exactly was recovery going against no apologies and he was never a gangsta

in the song No Apologies he said theat he was a "G" and he never apologizes in the chorus
well, he apologizes now alot

Funny cause he actually said in this one song that he isn't a gangsta. So if he apologizes for something that means he going against that song. You must not of liked him apologizing in yellow brick road then. On that chorus he said he wasn't apologizing to the critics on recovery he was apologizing to the fans not the critics so there's the difference. If you would listen to the lyrics properly you would know that.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

This is what happens when you take lyrics seriously...

[lotex]

Hes trying to put fake emotion into songs IMO. Eminem's real emotion i think comes out i think in a song like "Girls". That song has TRUE emotion, especially in the second verse. man i wish eminem could make songs like that now

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Hes trying to put fake emotion into songs IMO. Eminem's real emotion i think comes out i think in a song like "Girls". That song has TRUE emotion, especially in the second verse. man i wish eminem could make songs like that now

25 To Life and Space Bound's emotions are VERY sincere

[lotex]

Hes trying to put fake emotion into songs IMO. Eminem's real emotion i think comes out i think in a song like "Girls". That song has TRUE emotion, especially in the second verse. man i wish eminem could make songs like that now

25 To Life and Space Bound's emotions are VERY sincere

I'd agree, but just take a second listen to Girls and listen to his emotion in the second verse. It just surpasses anything he does today

[j04370859]

Hes trying to put fake emotion into songs IMO. Eminem's real emotion i think comes out i think in a song like "Girls". That song has TRUE emotion, especially in the second verse. man i wish eminem could make songs like that now

25 To Life and Space Bound's emotions are VERY sincere

I'd agree, but just take a second listen to Girls and listen to his emotion in the second verse. It just surpasses anything he does today

I wish you would just stick to listening to his old shit and stop bitching about his new songs. Face it nothing he puts out now is gonna impress you so stop listening to it.

[MikeNUFC]

Other than that, I love Recovery. And I agree, no one was even bitching about the "shouting" until Roman's Revenge, so fuck the people jumping on the bandwagon...

I think people are jumping on the "There's a Recovery Bandwagon" bandwagon.

There is no bandwagon - people just got tired of the annoying delivery and stupid ass punchlines(I have to laugh when people try and defend the punchlines). By the time Romans Revenge came out a lot of people were bored of the style of Recovery - I think that really shows the albums lack of replay value.

Seriously, the Recovery hate is getting old. If you don't like Recovery, don't fucking listen

Seriously, the Recovery love is getting old. If you like Recovery, then don't keep going on about it.

The people who hate Recovery, they don't listen (personally, I don't even hate the album, it has some great moments, I just find it, as a whole, dull now). There's nothing wrong with stating what you think about it though.

Give it 3 months and this site will probably start banning members for having a negative opinion - why is it fine to go on about how much you love it, but not how much you dislike it?