What don't you like about Recovery?

[Manly Moose]

Whats wrong with complaining? When a once consistent artist starts putting out ehh songs/records it better to complain than to say ENJOY IT OR ELSE, if somethings not up to standards then people have a right to complain. Dont say that artists cant make superb albums consistently because they can. Em was consistent for 4 albums straight (I count the 8 mile soundtrack). His standards for what he releases have fallen and people notice.

No artist wants complements that they don't deserve, every artist wants to be criticized so they can improve. Recovery wasnt bad, but it wasnt ready for release.

[Graphic]

The. Production. Sucks.
Except for So Bad.
EDIT: I'm not really complaining though. I love Recovery...but Em has no excuse for crappy production. He has Dr. Dre sitting right there, and he can produce well himself.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Other than that, I love Recovery. And I agree, no one was even bitching about the "shouting" until Roman's Revenge, so fuck the people jumping on the bandwagon...

I think people are jumping on the "There's a Recovery Bandwagon" bandwagon.

There is no bandwagon - people just got tired of the annoying delivery and stupid ass punchlines(I have to laugh when people try and defend the punchlines). By the time Romans Revenge came out a lot of people were bored of the style of Recovery - I think that really shows the albums lack of replay value.

Seriously, the Recovery hate is getting old. If you don't like Recovery, don't fucking listen

Seriously, the Recovery love is getting old. If you like Recovery, then don't keep going on about it.

The people who hate Recovery, they don't listen (personally, I don't even hate the album, it has some great moments, I just find it, as a whole, dull now). There's nothing wrong with stating what you think about it though.

Give it 3 months and this site will probably start banning members for having a negative opinion - why is it fine to go on about how much you love it, but not how much you dislike it?

I never said you couldn't. But seriously, it's the same fucking people arguing the same fucking shit every day. Doesn't that get on your nerves? All these threads talking about "well, this is what I didn't like about Recovery..." Yeah, we've heard it a thousand times. Some of us accept Recovery for what it is, others don't. And there's nothing wrong with that. But there are some people who loved Recovery at first, but now they hate it because suddenly it's become cool to hate on it. I don't see a reason for people to like something when it first comes out, and then say they hate it and find it boring. Except for just gradually not liking the music anymore, but then again, surely your musical tastes haven't changed that much in less than a year?

[MikeNUFC]

But there are some people who loved Recovery at first, but now they hate it because suddenly it's become cool to hate on it. I don't see a reason for people to like something when it first comes out, and then say they hate it and find it boring. Except for just gradually not liking the music anymore, but then again, surely your musical tastes haven't changed that much in less than a year?

There is no bandwagon - people just got tired of the annoying delivery and stupid ass punchlines(I have to laugh when people try and defend the punchlines). By the time Romans Revenge came out a lot of people were bored of the style of Recovery - I think that really shows the albums lack of replay value.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

But there are some people who loved Recovery at first, but now they hate it because suddenly it's become cool to hate on it. I don't see a reason for people to like something when it first comes out, and then say they hate it and find it boring. Except for just gradually not liking the music anymore, but then again, surely your musical tastes haven't changed that much in less than a year?

There is no bandwagon - people just got tired of the annoying delivery and stupid ass punchlines(I have to laugh when people try and defend the punchlines). By the time Romans Revenge came out a lot of people were bored of the style of Recovery - I think that really shows the albums lack of replay value.

So basically it's not good to you because it got boring?

That doesn't mean the album is bad or anything. Besides, Roman's Revenge has NOTHING to do with Recovery, since it came out afterward. That's when you say "his music is becoming boring to me" not "Recovery is boring because his recent songs are boring". That's like saying that The Eminem Show sucks because Encore was bad and you got tired of the "normal voice" or whatever.

[xnoxiousx]

Felt less like eminem i used to know and grew up with.

Thats why i liked relapse felt like his old self.

[MikeNUFC]

So basically it's not good to you because it got boring?

That doesn't mean the album is bad or anything. Besides, Roman's Revenge has NOTHING to do with Recovery, since it came out afterward. That's when you say "his music is becoming boring to me" not "Recovery is boring because his recent songs are boring". That's like saying that The Eminem Show sucks because Encore was bad and you got tired of the "normal voice" or whatever.

Yes, the shitty punchlines, poor flows, and annoying delivery made it boring. Not to do with my taste, just the exectution of his ideas got boring because they're repetitive.

The album is decent, it's just nothing special.

You need reading comprehesion. I used Roman's Revenge as a time piece. You said "no one was even bitching about the "shouting" until Roman's Revenge" - that's the only reason I mentioned it - people didn't change their views on the shouting because of Roman's Revenge, it was just around that time that people realised how boring and repetitive his delivery was.

Saying that, there were lots of complaints about his delivery when the album leaked. I remember mentioning it straight away.

Example: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=88860&p=1208724#p1208724

[shadyboymez]

Felt less like eminem i used to know and grew up with.

Thats why i liked relapse felt like his old self.

that sums it up in short, must be an Ontario thing
Eminem is Mr. I Don't Give A Fuck ... or at least he used to be

[xxTrigger1989xx]

So basically it's not good to you because it got boring?

That doesn't mean the album is bad or anything. Besides, Roman's Revenge has NOTHING to do with Recovery, since it came out afterward. That's when you say "his music is becoming boring to me" not "Recovery is boring because his recent songs are boring". That's like saying that The Eminem Show sucks because Encore was bad and you got tired of the "normal voice" or whatever.

Yes, the shitty punchlines, poor flows, and annoying delivery made it boring. Not to do with my taste, just the exectution of his ideas got boring because they're repetitive.

The album is decent, it's just nothing special.

You need reading comprehesion. I used Roman's Revenge as a time piece. You said "no one was even bitching about the "shouting" until Roman's Revenge" - that's the only reason I mentioned it - people didn't change their views on the shouting because of Roman's Revenge, it was just around that time that people realised how boring and repetitive his delivery was.

Saying that, there were lots of complaints about his delivery when the album leaked. I remember mentioning it straight away.

Example: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=88860&p=1208724#p1208724

Okay, but still, what I said doesn't apply to you, then. You had a problem from the beginning, so that's good. I'm saying that there were people that loved it at first, not even complaining about his voice, but now they don't

And no, I don't need reading comprehension, seeing as how reading and writing and all that shit is what I do best. I didn't know your reasons for mentioning it, I am not a mind reader, but thank you for stating them. This still doesn't change the fact that RR has nothing to do with Recovery and shouldn't affect how you view it, and no, I'm NOT saying that you said that it did. I'm saying that for anyone who DOES

[shadyboymez]

i'll admit, i was a big Recovery fan at first. It was new Eminem and great to get a whole new album of new tracks. BUT it is okay for opinions to change over time, time is very necessary to develop a true feeling towards something, especially when it comes to music. So even if you wanna quote me saying i loved Recovery at first, I c an now say with 100% confidence that I enjoy Relapse as an album much more than Recovery.

[classthe_king]

I hated Recovery the day it leaked

[j04370859]

i'll admit, i was a big Recovery fan at first. It was new Eminem and great to get a whole new album of new tracks. BUT it is okay for opinions to change over time, time is very necessary to develop a true feeling towards something, especially when it comes to music. So even if you wanna quote me saying i loved Recovery at first, I c an now say with 100% confidence that I enjoy Relapse as an album much more than Recovery.

Like when people hated on relapse when it came out and now everyones loving it and saying its old eminem.

[shadyboymez]

NO, more like how both albums have been released for a long enough time no to generate a true opinion on them.

[Kez]

But there are some people who loved Recovery at first, but now they hate it because suddenly it's become cool to hate on it.

Man it grinds my shit when people say this lol

Is it so impossible to fathom that people can just genuinely not like something?

And for the record, to the whole "you liked it when it came out thing"; look what forum we're on. We are on TRShady.com. Fucking Eminem fansite. Pretty much everyone here is an Eminem fan. No matter what, for most of us it's almost inevitable that when a new album of his comes out, we get excited (no homo). It's just a reaction. We got excited when fucking Encore came out for God's sake, despite how unaninmously shit it is. But after the initial reaction, when it really starts to sink in a few months down the line, that is when you can form your actual opinion imo. Plus, you act like people are saying Recovery is 100% terrible, which nobody is. But if there's things about it we don't like, i don't see the problem.

[RainMan44]

-The beats
-The "angry" tone
-The wack punchlines
-The fast flow, which doesn't allow us to catch the multies....How many listens did it take for you to realize "smell blood" rhymes with "help up" in "No Love"?...Yep