Where did all these Relapse lovers come from?

[Asd-ONE]

My mom, my mom
I know you're probably tired of hearin' 'bout my mom
Oh ho, whoa, ho, but this is just a story of when I was just a shorty
And how I became hooked on Valium


Probably the worst lines of an Eminem song. The fact that he turns the word Valium into a four syllable word is ridiculous. And what does it ryhme it with? "Oh ho, whoa, ho"... nice. Oh but yeah, Recovery was teh sux, amirite?

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I also love how all the Recovery haters say that Recovery "has no replay value", which is bullshit. Maybe for you, but there are a good number of people who play it often. I listen to Recovery quite a bit. I also listen to Relapse, so it's not like I'm choosing Recovery because I hate Relapse, because I don't hate Relapse

[Master Chief]

25 To Life conveys great emotion, in the same league as the some of emotional TES tracks. My Mom's beat is unbearable, the hook is kind of annoying and the storytelling can get rather boring.

25 To Life has a LOT of replay value, according to a lot more people other than myself.

Nothing on Recovery is in the same league as TES. I guess, you can say "emotionally" it is...but I don't listen to Eminem for emotionz. I listen to his lyrics because they are intelligent, clever, and unpredictable. The lyrics I like may or may not be humorous or deeply meaningful. There's good, and not good.

25 To Life is an obvious song, period. He's not really painting a picture, this is a generic concept song that isn't original. My Mom is much more amusing and it just sounds more natural. 25 To life was forced out because his dumbass fans want "metaphor trax n shit yo".

The point here is that, 25 To Life has much more relevance, meaning, relatability, message, etc. ect. than My Mom. My Mom has more multis and clever, funny lyrics? cool. But, I think it comes down to preference because I prefer the serious Eminem to funny Eminem (in some occasions, this does not mean I think Mockingbird > As The World Turns/I'm Back).

Even if it is a played out concept, I don't care because it was executed excellent.

[VenomBlackViper]

Every time Eminem puts something out people are gonna compare it to his first 3 albums and find a reason to hate it for not being as good. That goes for any artist, they have their first 2 or 3 classic albums and the rest of them deteriorate in quality after that.

[Asd-ONE]

Every time Eminem puts something out people are gonna compare it to his first 3 albums and find a reason to hate it for not being as good. That goes for any artist, they have their first 2 or 3 classic albums and the rest of them deteriorate in quality after that.

Not true because a lot of people love Recovery.

[Satire]

The Relapse lovers were born from the ashes of Relapse haters who actually liked the record but are weak minded enough to be influenced by Youtube comments and the close minded fuck heads on this forum. There are a bunch of people on this forum who don't actually dislike Encore but only say that it sucks because it's "cool" to admit weakness in their favorite artist (not me, I think it's a piece of shit. Kill yourself if you're one of these people) .

It takes a moderate amount of time for the actual opinion of an album to come out from the artists' fanbase if they've been around for a while. Some people hate Street Hop by Royce when it's clearly a great album, everyone is still stuck on "Nas hasn't produced anything good since Illmatic", and even if Jay-Z made an album as good as BluePrint 1 no one would notice and still say he fell off.

As for 25 To Life I honestly would have liked it better if he didn't say the last line. Not only was that pretty predictable, but it made it too obvious when you're already left to assume that it's about career. Tracks like Seduction or Space Bound are better because they swing both ways, you are left to interpret them and find deeper meanings from the suggestions you notice after you're done appreciating what's on the surface... but 25 to Life straight up tells you what it's about. It wasn't even a big twist. I also fucking hate the beat.

[xnoxiousx]

I always loved it and i also like recovery just less.

[Master Chief]

I also fucking hate the beat.

Somebody shoot this man

[Satire]

I also fucking hate the beat.

Somebody shoot this man

It's a shitty beat.

[Master Chief]

I also fucking hate the beat.

Somebody shoot this man

It's a shitty beat.

Is it the synths at the end?

[Satire]

It's a shitty beat.

Is it the synths at the end?

That and the shitty FL studio sounding drums and generic guitar string. The hook and strings towards the end of the first verse are really good though.

Eminem producing this would have made it amazing.

[Master Chief]

It's a shitty beat.

Is it the synths at the end?

That and the shitty FL studio sounding drums and generic guitar string. The hook and strings towards the end of the first verse are really good though.

Eminem producing this would have made it amazing.

I think I'm the only person who loves those synths

& this actually sounds like an Eminem beat. In some way

[christalgurl]

I've never been a HUGE fan of Relapse. I love Eminem and it's an okay album, but it's only okay, IMO. Recovery has major replay value over Relapse. Relapse is an alright album, and I'm definitely not hating on it. I think it's fine, but Recovery is a much better album to listen to again and again.

[N.E.R.O.]

[/quote]The superior rhyming is only part of it.

My Mom is a throwback to the humorous storytelling of classic Eminem. 25 To Life is a stale "metaphor track" that has little replay value. Oh shit, he's telling us his on-off relationship with rap is like it's with a woman...cool. [/quote]
Hahahahahaha! Exactly!

I Think With All The Debating Goin' On people went back to revise Relapse doing that finding forgotten content or newfound appreciation for the lyrical wizardry..

IMO though time usually only makes an album classic or awesome if people have experiences attached to it from that time period where they related 100% to what the artist was saying on the record or the memories they recall when they throw on the album often because life/music gets shittier each year.. probably the case.. people expected recovery to be better than relapse if the next album is worse than Recovery we will be called Recovery Lovers for praising that album even though we got called recovery haters this year.. for example when i was 12 in 2004 and found out what Shady was it was AWESOME as a rebellious teen having somebody really cool like Eminem to guide you and tell everybody to suck your dick.. now even though i still prefer his older material over the new one i'm 19 and I don't relate as much to the material as i remember i used to do..

that means if I ever DO get out of my drug haze I might prefer Recovery cus of the "Look at how cool i am clean-theme" but as of right now i still prefer dark vibes, personal content and sick lyricism over chaotic (Noisy!) production, self braggadacious punchlines, lacking humour and songs that really have No replay value (25 to life and LTWYL (Recovery As a Whole) might be amongst the material I played the least from his entire catalogue..) but i'm waiting for the nostalgia to kick in and the radio-raping of the singles to kick off and then I might like it a bit more.. but for the record I don't never have and hopefully never will hate any of his records (Big Weenie and 25 to life was pushing the envelope though) all of his albums are amazing in theyr own right and even though i might be biased having emotions connected to his material i don't think his albums can be compared to eachother considering the fact that theyr all stylistically completely different thats the catch about Eminem.. even though Relapse and Recovery might not be up to his usual standards theyr still both the best records from that year

[HereHere]

As for 25 To Life I honestly would have liked it better if he didn't say the last line. Not only was that pretty predictable, but it made it too obvious when you're already left to assume that it's about career. Tracks like Seduction or Space Bound are better because they swing both ways, you are left to interpret them and find deeper meanings from the suggestions you notice after you're done appreciating what's on the surface... but 25 to Life straight up tells you what it's about. It wasn't even a big twist. I also fucking hate the beat.

Even with that line in there, reviewers still didn't realise it wasn't about his wife.