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Postby Konseptic » Feb 23rd, '11, 21:20

So i was going through a Wu Tang forum (Not sure if i can name it) and i came across a poll which asked the forum users which "MC owned the 2000s" now i'm not sure if they mean succesfully wise or in all aspects of being an artist, but above the poll they had 'the most lyrically gifted' (which was spelt 'lyricly', which might give off an impression of the calibre of intelligence of the forum users :whistle:), anyway, the poll ended a bit like this:

Ghostface Killah - 35.63%
Eminem - 29.89%
MF Doom - 24.14%
Canibus - 19.54%
Killah Priest - 18.39%
R.A The Rugged Man - 16.09%
Sean Price - 12.64%
Jay Z - 12.64%
AZ - 10.34%
Royce Da 5'9 - 9.20%
Immortal Technique - 9.20%
Ill Bill - 8.05%
One Be lo - 6.90%
Kanye West - 4.60%
DMX - 2.30%
Lil Wayne - 1.15%
P.O.S - 1.15%

As expected, Ghostface would come first, i'm not implying in any way that Eminem should have been #1 on the list, but whether it should be Ghostface is questionable, on the subject matter i really have no idea who should be top and i'm guessing on this site it would be Eminem, i'm also shocked to see Nas wasn't on the poll as no-one had voted for him, and i'm sure you'll think of other MC's that should've been up there.
Here's some posts which i saw on there, I don't fully agree but i just thought it'd be interesting to add them in to see if any of you would debate over them :happy:

AZ - Not really a fan besides Doe or Die and his features. Can't name anything memorable he's done in the last decade

Canibus - Same as AZ. Never been that big a fan.

DMX - Hasn't been relevant since 05 so I don't think he qualifies

Eminem - Only bad steps he's taken were Encore and Recovery (and some parts of Relapse) imo so he's a contender.

Ghostface Killah - Again, only mis-step he's taken imo were The Wizard of Poetry.

Ill Bill - Very strong contender. Can't name a "bad" album from him in the last decade. Alot of his best material was released in that time frame.

Immortal Technique - Great material but is too inconsistent. If he were to have dropped more material he may have had the title imo.

Jay-Z - my favorite Jay-Z material is from '01 - '07. After that he fell off.

Kanye - Two classic albums halfway thru the decade, one bangin album in '07 and one wack album that can't even be classified as hip hop in '08.

Killah Priest - Not a fan besides Heavy Mental so my opinion on him isn't really relevant.

Lil Wayne - He was good until the Carter III. After that he was wack so he's not a contender imo. His material from '03 - '06 was great though.

MF Doom - One of the strongest discographies of the bunch. One of the top contenders imo.

One Be Lo - Again, have yet to hear something bad from him. Another strong contender.

P.O.S. - Never got into him. Someone put me on cause I hear good things.

R.A. the Rugged Man - To my knowledge he dropped like one album last decade of new material. Legendary Classics was basically re-mastered old shit. Good shit though. Can't be a contender for me though for that reason. One album isn't enough I need more.

Royce da 5'9" - Only solo album of his I have is Street Hop. It's great but I can't say he was top of the decade until I hear more material from him.

Sean Price - Didn't drop new material until about '04-05 (to my knowledge) so I can't really say he's the best of the ENTIRE decade but I will say that he has had an amazing run since Donkey Sean Jr. One of my favorite emcees.

All that being said I think MF Doom takes it imo. Between him and One Be Lo.


And

Any vote outside of Eminem is wrong. It's not up for debate, the 2000's was Eminem.

He's not the best MC on the list and he's not my favourite by FAR, but he owned this decade.

It's fucking laughable Canibus, Ghostface, RA The Rugged Man and KILLAH FUCKING PRIEST have more votes than him. Ask anyone who Em is and they'll know, go ask them who killah Priest is.


So, Who do you think is the most Relevant/Lyrical Artist of the first 10 years of the millenium? :coffee:
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby classthe_king » Feb 23rd, '11, 22:46

Ummmmmm, none of my top 10 even got on the list ;)
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Konseptic » Feb 23rd, '11, 22:49

classthe_king wrote:Ummmmmm, none of my top 10 even got on the list ;)


While writing the section on some you think not being there, i was thinking 100% to myself, shall i write down how i was waiting for Classthe_King to come in and say Diabolic or Copywrite :happy:
Both dope Mc's no doubt (Makes more sense than people coming in here and saying how dope Lil B is anyway :y:)
Just out of interest, what is your top 10?
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From the hoodrats to rich kids lost in a bubble
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Write it down and remember, that we never gave in
The mind of a child is where the revolution begins
So if the solution has never been to look in yourself,
How is it that you expect to find it anywhere else?
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Konseptic » Feb 23rd, '11, 22:56

Lello wrote:GHOSTFACE KILLAH MOST SKILLED MC OF THE 2000S ??????


:facepalm2 :facepalm2 :facepalm2 :facepalm2 :facepalm2

(I Know how dope he is don't worry not denying that)

But SMFH


You have to take in mind it was a Wu Tang forum :whistle:
No other Wu Tang members were mentioned though.. But Killah Priest is an affiliate of Wu Tang and i guess that's why his votes were higher.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby classthe_king » Feb 23rd, '11, 23:03

Konseptic wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Ummmmmm, none of my top 10 even got on the list ;)


While writing the section on some you think not being there, i was thinking 100% to myself, shall i write down how i was waiting for Classthe_King to come in and say Diabolic or Copywrite :happy:
Both dope Mc's no doubt (Makes more sense than people coming in here and saying how dope Lil B is anyway :y:)
Just out of interest, what is your top 10?


copywrite,sadistik,dzk,diabolic,prince ea,possessed,vinnie paz, hopsin, bekay, chino xl,

I would deffinitely give the 2000's to Vinnie Paz. 5 Great jmt albums and those two great aotp albums. That's a pretty solid decade
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby dead prez » Feb 23rd, '11, 23:09

They probably just chose Ghostface because he was the most consistant Wu member, not surprising he came out on top at all tbh. Eminem was also ridiculously close on that poll btw, if Ironman and OB4CL (Yeah I know it's Rae's album) came out in 2000 I would probably have handed it to him. Personally I'll go with One Be Lo or K-os.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Konseptic » Feb 23rd, '11, 23:18

classthe_king wrote:
Konseptic wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Ummmmmm, none of my top 10 even got on the list ;)


While writing the section on some you think not being there, i was thinking 100% to myself, shall i write down how i was waiting for Classthe_King to come in and say Diabolic or Copywrite :happy:
Both dope Mc's no doubt (Makes more sense than people coming in here and saying how dope Lil B is anyway :y:)
Just out of interest, what is your top 10?


copywrite,sadistik,dzk,diabolic,prince ea,possessed,vinnie paz, hopsin, bekay, chino xl,

I would deffinitely give the 2000's to Vinnie Paz. 5 Great jmt albums and those two great aotp albums. That's a pretty solid decade

Vinnie Paz is most definatily a solid artist, his songs/verses have been on point for the last 11 years no doubt :y: i enjoy listening to Pazman and enjoy his music, however, i'm not sure how far up the board i'd put him lyrically :sweating:

@dead prez - I'm suprised neither Rae or Meth came up on the poll
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Let them know that I died while I fought in a struggle
From the hoodrats to rich kids lost in a bubble
Spray paint it on the streets and in the subway tunnels
Write it down and remember, that we never gave in
The mind of a child is where the revolution begins
So if the solution has never been to look in yourself,
How is it that you expect to find it anywhere else?
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby stillmatic » Feb 24th, '11, 01:12

It's a Wu forum. They have probably the most loyal cult following in hip hop.

No surprises, and it's not even to say their list was stupid.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Konseptic » Feb 24th, '11, 01:17

stillmatic wrote:It's a Wu forum. They have probably the most loyal cult following in hip hop.

No surprises, and it's not even to say their list was stupid.

No doubt, i also think Ghostface is extremely lyrical :y: but not #1 of the last 10 years, in my humble oppinion :whistle:
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby X The Wise » Feb 24th, '11, 02:53

Not really the order i would have put in either, but people have different opinions. Couldn't really name anyone who has had a big prime in the 2000's besides underground rappers, since everyone got worse.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby VenomBlackViper » Feb 24th, '11, 04:09

In terms of lyricism Eminem is a contender but not the best
In terms of relevance & success Eminem takes it no questions asked.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Fa-Q » Feb 24th, '11, 06:55

No way GFK should be number one....it should be a hundred MCs better than him
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby dead prez » Feb 24th, '11, 06:58

Words Myth wrote:No way GFK should be number one....it should be a hundred MCs better than him

Like who? But being a Wu forum like said earlier, this was really no surprise. If we made this poll here Eminem would blow everyone else out of the competition.

It's actually not that farfetched that Ghostface took it, being the site. Really the thread meant consistancy and having two classics (Supreme Clientele and Fishscales) no garbage albums (minus Ghostdeini) and owning a large part of OB4CL2, people shouldn' act like this was a big deal. Here's the actual thread, either way Eminem was close so whatever. They should have had Black Thought there and Gift of Gab tbh.
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Konseptic » Feb 24th, '11, 11:31

C.R.E.A.M wrote:the poll is the most gifted MC of 2000's (talking about his voice)


i'd vote for DMX :y:

DMX is great, his replay value is enormous for me, he's once of my favourite artists but i know that he's not contending with the best, lyrically. Plus he's been pretty irrelivant for the past few years being in prison and what not, but that voice. That voice can make anything sound cool :y:
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Spray paint it on the streets and in the subway tunnels
Write it down and remember, that we never gave in
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Re: Most Gifted MC of The 2000's

Postby Hiphopdane » Feb 24th, '11, 12:53

I actually have an account there.. Quite good forum but expect a lot of close-minded people now and then :P

People tend to make hateful threads about Em a lot so I'm surprised he is even nominated.
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