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Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby mcZu » Feb 24th, '11, 23:39

^No, it is fact that slaves used to sing and tell stories in rhyme form to make the time go faster (basically music and poetry). They even used to rhyme about being rich and partying, some rhymed about the current conditions. Just like the club songs and songs about owning money, and the songs conveying a message about certain conditions.

Hip Hop got that part from that. MC-ing used to be just to get the crowd going/moving when DJ's were playing music, but after that MC-ing as an art form developed and took that rhyming about certain topics from the slaves.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby EminemBase » Feb 24th, '11, 23:42

^ Slaves used to sing work songs.

It's not a fact they originated hip-hop or that slave songs are directly related to hip-hop.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby mcZu » Feb 24th, '11, 23:47

Nobody said that. But it did influence Hip Hop.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby EminemBase » Feb 24th, '11, 23:49

^ Yes, influenced.

But many things in modern culture, outside of black culture also influenced it no doubt. Which is my point. Certainly black people may of had the biggest influence on it and they no doubt pioneered and popularized it. But I just dislike saying this is X culture like it's absolute.

Because hip-hop, is still a modern genre and because of that, has a lot more influence than just black culture. Whether they know it or not.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby mcZu » Feb 24th, '11, 23:52

^I fully agree with you on that. It might have 70% of influence coming from black culture, but Hip Hop is no way just a black culture, and the music genre definitely isn't black music.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby Block » Feb 24th, '11, 23:53

wowowowow.. Are you seriously trying to argue there is no correlation between slave songs and hip hop? You really need to do some research before you assert such ignorant arguments into your already futile standpoint.


After what you just said I can't even argue with you anymore. You have absolutely no idea about the lineage of the art form you're attempting to argue about.

You may be more sly in your arguments than most of these kids, but you're far from my level. Do research before you look so foolish.

Hip hop in it's purest form is black culture. Give up. You have no idea about the history, yet you're full trying to argue a vague, nonexistent point.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby classthe_king » Feb 24th, '11, 23:59

mcZu wrote:^I fully agree with you on that. It might have 70% of influence coming from black culture, but Hip Hop is no way just a black culture, and the music genre definitely isn't black music.


If Hip-Hop has 51% influence coming from black culture than it is black culture...but I'd say it has 98% influence from black culture. Yeah it's not 100% from black culture but that's like me saying I'm not white just because my great great great grandpa was black so I'm 1/32 black
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby mcZu » Feb 25th, '11, 00:07

Alright, K Block I agree on the factual side of your argument, because, it is fact. But just calling it in it's purest form a black culture is stigmatizing. DJ Kool Herc (who is known to be the creater of the blueprint of Hip Hop music) took Jamaican tradition impromptu, boastful poetry and speech over rhythm as a base for the blueprint. The ethnic origin of Jamaica isn't just African, it is also: Lebanese, Syrian, English, Scottish, Irish, and German.

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mcZu wrote:^I fully agree with you on that. It might have 70% of influence coming from black culture, but Hip Hop is no way just a black culture, and the music genre definitely isn't black music.


If Hip-Hop has 51% influence coming from black culture than it is black culture...but I'd say it has 98% influence from black culture. Yeah it's not 100% from black culture but that's like me saying I'm not white just because my great great great grandpa was black so I'm 1/32 black


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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby Xray » Feb 25th, '11, 00:39

EminemBase is a fucking moron. Reading his posts is like going on the fucking rollercoaster, you're more than likely going to throwup. It's like reading someones orgasm through text. Someone needs to chop off this faggots fingers. Seriously the board could use the cache space, motherfucker types like it's the olympics. I bet if your english teacher read your posts, he'd facepalm at how many words it takes for you to explain a simple comment.

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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby WakeUpShow » Feb 25th, '11, 01:20

just adding a little something something. i think the origins of hip hop go back further than the slave ships. african tribe leaders used to tell stories with rhythm over drum patterns.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby SlimShadyX313X » Feb 25th, '11, 01:23

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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby EminemBase » Feb 25th, '11, 02:13

mcZu wrote:^I fully agree with you on that. It might have 70% of influence coming from black culture, but Hip Hop is no way just a black culture, and the music genre definitely isn't black music.
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Re: Lowkey - Fire in the Booth (1XTRA)

Postby EminemBase » Feb 25th, '11, 02:14

Xray wrote:I am a fucking moron. Reading my posts is like going on the fucking rollercoaster, you're more than likely going to throwup. It's like reading someones orgasm through text. Someone needs to chop off this faggots fingers. Seriously the board could use the cache space, motherfucker, I types like it's the olympics. I bet if your english teacher read my posts, he'd facepalm at how many words it takes for me to explain a simple comment.

I'm mad as hell cause Eminem didn't create hip hop. :'(


I agree.

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