Lil Wayne Lyrically

[mdemaz]

Meh....
He's average..

[dead prez]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Has Wayne ever done anything better than Lose Yourself rhyme-wise?

But you see rhyme schemes are only one aspect of lyrics, and many rappers don't even focus on rhyme schemes Jay z for example. He's known for having crazy double entendres which go over your head, and Lil Wayne's style is more akin to Jay's than Eminem's.

[Master Chief]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Has Wayne ever done anything better than Lose Yourself rhyme-wise?

But you see rhyme schemes are only one aspect of lyrics, and many rappers don't even focus on rhyme schemes Jay z for example. He's known for having crazy double entendres which go over your head, and Lil Wayne's style is more akin to Jay's than Eminem's.

First of all, as you know I'm a fan of Wayne's old stuff so I have no bias here. Now, rhymes schemes is pretty much the most important part of lyricism. Sonically, well placed, unforced, multiples syllable rhymes are pleasing to the ear as Amadeo said in another thread. Plus, it helps the flow (an element of rapping) and it shows complexity in a rap. So, that makes it the #1 part of lyrics to me.

There are some rappers that barely use similies, metaphors or double entendres and do very well for themselves.

Rhyme-wise Lose Yourself is the best Hip-Hop song of all time. If you see the link in the OP, you'll be blown away. That's why I asked him if Wayne has ever made a better song (rhyme-wise) to see how much of a blind fucker he is.

[dead prez]

Just want to say that I hope this doesn't turn personal, but you should know that I am relentless when I start debating.

First of all, as you know I'm a fan of Wayne's old stuff so I have no bias here.

Never said you were biased just saying that trying to compare another rapper rhyme scheme wise to Eminem is plain unfair, he's one of the best rhymers out there. Not even lyricists like Nas can touch rhyme scheme wise nor can Jay, but they excel in other areas of lyricism that Eminem doesn't.

If you really want to compare Eminem to a similar rapper compare him to One be Lo, Pun, Az, R.A. the Rugged man.

Now, rhymes schemes is pretty much the most important part of lyricism.

Not really, or would you claim Lupe Fiasco is a shit lyricist because his style is more for going over your head than trying to fit in as many hidden syllables as possible.

Or Jay z for having some of the dopes metaphors and double entendres songs where the whole concept is a double entendre.


Or Ghost's amazing attention to detail, even when he's using his "stream of consiousness' raps or nonsense rhymes he never misses anything when telling a story.

Point is many rappers have different strengths rhyme schemes just happens to be one of Eminem's bets, now I'm not saying this is the only thing he's good at I know he's a great storyteller as well among other things.

Sonically, well placed, unforced, multiples syllable rhymes are pleasing to the ear as Amadeo said in another thread. Plus, it helps the flow (an element of rapping) and it shows complexity in a rap. So, that makes it the #1 part of lyrics to me.

That's true, but what would you consider the limit, I mean Jay z and Nas obviously can use multies as well, just not as good as Eminem's. And we all know they're better than Em at other aspects too.

And having a dope enough delivery can get past that see Prodigy, Guru, Oc, Snoop.

There are some rappers that barely use similies, metaphors or double entendres and do very well for themselves.

Well Eminem would be one of them, seeing as those aren't his strengths.

Rhyme-wise Lose Yourself is the best Hip-Hop song of all time. If you see the link in the OP, you'll be blown away. That's why I asked him if Wayne has ever made a better song (rhyme-wise) to see how much of a blind fucker he is.

I know I saw that and while amazing, and arguably the best, a lot of them are hidden which makes finding them great. I do believe some rap songs from Pun or One Be Lo can match it. And yes I saw Amadeo's highlighting of all the hidden multies, btw.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Such a shitty excuse. We understand his lyrics just fine, we're not retarded. The point is that his lyrics suck ass. MOST of the time.

[Master Chief]

Just want to say that I hope this doesn't turn personal, but you should know that I am relentless when I start debating.

haha I know

First of all, as you know I'm a fan of Wayne's old stuff so I have no bias here.

Never said you were biased just saying that trying to compare another rapper rhyme scheme wise to Eminem is plain unfair, he's one of the best rhymers out there. Not even lyricists like Nas can touch rhyme scheme wise nor can Jay, but they excel in other areas of lyricism that Eminem doesn't.

If you really want to compare Eminem to a similar rapper compare him to One be Lo, Pun, Az, R.A. the Rugged man.

Of course, that's exactly why I asked him such an obvious question, to test him. To see if he can ACTUALLY pull something out of his ass and point me to a song which is better rhyme-wise which will of course be bullshit because Wayne doesn't have a song which is in the same league as LY.

Now, rhymes schemes is pretty much the most important part of lyricism.

Not really, or would you claim Lupe Fiasco is a shit lyricist because his style is more for going over your head than trying to fit in as many hidden syllables as possible.

Or Jay z for having some of the dopes metaphors and double entendres songs where the whole concept is a double entendre.


Or Ghost's amazing attention to detail, even when he's using his "stream of consiousness' raps or nonsense rhymes he never misses anything when telling a story.

Point is many rappers have different strengths rhyme schemes just happens to be one of Eminem's bets, now I'm not saying this is the only thing he's good at I know he's a great storyteller as well among other things.

I should've said IMO. To me, rhyme schemes are very important, if you have a simple rhyme scheme then you better have another trait (doesn't have to be in your lyrics) that covers up for that like Lupe Fiasco, Kanye, Jay, 50 Cent etc. do

Sonically, well placed, unforced, multiples syllable rhymes are pleasing to the ear as Amadeo said in another thread. Plus, it helps the flow (an element of rapping) and it shows complexity in a rap. So, that makes it the #1 part of lyrics to me.

That's true, but what would you consider the limit, I mean Jay z and Nas obviously can use multies as well, just not as good as Eminem's. And we all know they're better than Em at other aspects too.

And having a dope enough delivery can get past that see Prodigy, Guru, Oc, Snoop.

I mean, I don't expect every rapper to be as skilled as Eminem in that department, I can enjoy a rapper with a less usage of multies just as much. But, if you have incredible (unforced, non-pretentious) multies then that's a plus.

There are some rappers that barely use similies, metaphors or double entendres and do very well for themselves.

Well Eminem would be one of them, seeing as those aren't his strengths.

Or at least he was...

Rhyme-wise Lose Yourself is the best Hip-Hop song of all time. If you see the link in the OP, you'll be blown away. That's why I asked him if Wayne has ever made a better song (rhyme-wise) to see how much of a blind fucker he is.

I know I saw that and while amazing, and arguably the best, a lot of them are hidden which makes finding them great. I do believe some rap songs from Pun or One Be Lo can match it. And yes I saw Amadeo's highlighting of all the hidden multies, btw.

Never heard One Be Lo. Maybe i should

[dead prez]

Well there's really nothing left to debate because we got the point that Eminem is one of the best rhymers out there if not the best, but other A+ rhymers would be One Be Lo, Pun, G rap, Percee P. I'd rate Az more of an A and so would R.A. the Rugged man (he strings his words together to much tbh). Of course there's a lot more, but those are all I can think of now.

And Yeah Wayne will never touch Eminem in any aspect at his prime anyway, though I honestly would rather listen to Wayne in his prime than Eminem currently.

And yeah Check out Rocketship, Axis, and Reality check. I haven't been as amazed by a rapper who used multies since Eminem himself, he rarely curses to lol, and his music has a message.

[LilWayne4Life]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Such a shitty excuse. We understand his lyrics just fine, we're not retarded. The point is that his lyrics suck ass. MOST of the time.

You understand wayne lyrics? lol explain this line (random line i picked)

"I don't feel I've done enough, so I'ma keep on doing this shit, Lil Tunechi or Young Tunafish" - 6'7

[Robbie G]

His grandma named him lil tune and he added "chi" to make it sound like gucci. Tune sounds similar to tuna.

Nothing interesting/special. If I'm missing something then...well fuck me haha.

[Manly Moose]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Such a shitty excuse. We understand his lyrics just fine, we're not retarded. The point is that his lyrics suck ass. MOST of the time.

You understand wayne lyrics? lol explain this line (random line i picked)

"I don't feel I've done enough, so I'ma keep on doing this shit, Lil Tunechi or Young Tunafish" - 6'7

Thats say he didn't understand that line? Would that change the fact that that line ranges from average to terrible.

[LilWayne4Life]

His grandma named him lil tune and he added "chi" to make it sound like gucci. Tune sounds similar to tuna.

Nothing interesting/special. If I'm missing something then...well fuck me haha.

ROFLMAO, not even close to right.

"I don't feel I've done enough, so I'ma keep on doing this shit, Lil Tunechi or Young Tunafish"

pictures are better:

here are 2 ways tuna is prepared/served in restaurants:



now do they look "done enough".... the fish, does it look "done" (fully cooked).



"i dont feel "i done enough"... "young tunafish."

That was actually a double entendre line, the other entendre is obvious to the eye.

That was just a basic wayne line and only one person tried to answer it even though i bet at least 20 others looked at my post including the person i originally asked to answer it.

[LilWayne4Life]

His grandma named him lil tune and he added "chi" to make it sound like gucci. Tune sounds similar to tuna.

Nothing interesting/special. If I'm missing something then...well fuck me haha.

ROFLMAO, not even close to right.

"I don't feel I've done enough, so I'ma keep on doing this shit, Lil Tunechi or Young Tunafish"

pictures are better:

here are 2 ways tuna is prepared/served in restaurants:



now do they look "done enough".... the fish, does it look "done" (fully cooked).



"i dont feel "i done enough"... "young tunafish."

That was actually a double entendre line, the other entendre is obvious to the eye.

That was just a basic wayne line and only one person tried to answer it even though i bet at least 20 others looked at my post including the person i originally asked to answer it.

Had to quote myself, shit is too hilarious

[dead prez]

Yeah, which is astonishing, really. Multis were so second-nature to him that he didn't even need to write them down with a pen. He rapped multis without even realizing it, and most rappers have to consciously craft multis into their lyrics.

I know I'm not denying that he's not of the best at pulling of multies, and Rock bottom is a perfect example of multi after multi without forcing, obviously other artists can do it to just not to the level of Eminem can like Jay and Nas, they use multies but they don't have as much syllables in their raps. Closest that would come to Eminem that I've listened to in terms off multies quality would be One Be lo, though he does have a harder time staying on topic whilst pulling off amazing multies.

[LilWayne4Life]

^ This is a lil Wayne thread, go off topic again and ima have to report you

[BILI]

People who doesn't understand wayne's lyrics won't understand him, therefor the majority of this site wouldn't understand wayne if they tried.

Such a shitty excuse. We understand his lyrics just fine, we're not retarded. The point is that his lyrics suck ass. MOST of the time.

You understand wayne lyrics? lol explain this line (random line i picked)

"I don't feel I've done enough, so I'ma keep on doing this shit, Lil Tunechi or Young Tunafish" - 6'7

That line is soooo bad I had to take my eyeballs out,clean them and then put them together without watching at that line again.