Do You Find MBDTF a classic?

[slimshadylappin]

Not a classic but a very solid album.

Good production doesn't make a classic. If you look at all the hip hop albums most people consider classics they are more then good beats

[dead prez]

Not a classic but a very solid album.

Good production doesn't make a classic. If you look at all the hip hop albums most people consider classics they are more then good beats

The Chronic (Dre is a shitty mc), The Infamous (I might get pegged for this) Metaphorical Music, J dilla Donuts, any Ohmegga Watts album, hell even Blueprint for a large portion... Of course I know Metaphorical Music and Donuts are producer albums, but we all know Kanye's strong point is his producing, and I actually he think he stepped up his mc game with songs like Gorgeous.

What I love about this album is how much personality it has, this is definitely not something that could be appreciated in one or two listens . I love the beats in this album, everything was just put together and executed well.

Controversial opion ahead

Not only is one of the best albums of last year, but one of the best hip hop albums in a while. Definitely the best in the mainstream in a while.

[slimshadylappin]

Not a classic but a very solid album.

Good production doesn't make a classic. If you look at all the hip hop albums most people consider classics they are more then good beats

The Chronic (Dre is a shitty mc), The Infamous (I might get pegged for this) Metaphorical Music, J dilla Donuts, any Ohmegga Watts album, hell even Blueprint for a large portion... Of course I know Metaphorical Music and Donurs are producer albums, but we all know Kanye's strong point is his producing, and I actually he think he stepped up his mc game with songs like Gorgeous.

What I love about this album is how much personality it has, this is definitely not something that could be appreciated in one or two listens . I love the beats in this album, everything was just put together and executed well.

Controversial opion ahead

Not only is one of the best albums of last year, but one of the best hip hop albums in a while. Definitely the best in the mainstream in a while.

WHAT The Chronic and Infamous have more then good beats. Blueprint I would not call a classic but thats beside the point. Blueprint is also not just a production album

[dead prez]

Everyone seems to be peggin this album for it's so called pedestrian rhymes, meanwhile Prodigy and Havoc in The Infamous anyway (Hell on earth is a different story, P stepped up his pen game) are way more pedestrian rhymers than Kanye in this album. Gorgeous shows he has decent mc skills, besides I always thought Kanye was a decent mc.

Btw I'm far from a mobb deep hater and am one of their biggest fans on this site.

[Master Chief]

Most overrated album of all time.

7.5/10

[dead prez]

Most overrated album of all time.

7.5/10

You're an idiot who can't judge music though so...




Lol, just kidding I remember when we used to always fight about this though. Anyways I don't know I honestly think LOPD (Big L) might take that in terms of Hip Hop albums.

Discalimer:I'm not saying LOPD is a bad album, I honestly believe though most of the hype garnered after L's death.

[Master Chief]

Most overrated album of all time.

7.5/10

You're an idiot who can't judge music though so...




Lol, just kidding I remember when we used to always fight about this though. Anyways I don't know I honestly think LOPD (Big L) might take that in terms of Hip Hop albums.

Discalimer:I'm not saying LOPD is a bad album, I honestly believe though most of the hype garnered after L's death.

LMFAO, yeah I remember that shit



But, I honestly think this album is being blown out of proportion. I wouldn't talk shit about it if idiotic critics wouldn't give it 5's and 10's ALL over the fucking place

I can name 10 albums better in 2010.

[I'mShady]

Hell NOOO.
I rate is somewhere between Late Registration and Graduation.
And HELL No. This isn't the most overrated Kanye Album. Graduation was by far the most overrated.
1.The College Dropout
2.Late Registration
3.My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
4.Graduation
5....You know...

[stillmatic]

Not a classic but a very solid album.

Good production doesn't make a classic. If you look at all the hip hop albums most people consider classics they are more then good beats

The Chronic (Dre is a shitty mc)

Chronic had great lyrics, what were you listening to?

Chronic was D.O.C in his prime.

And Dre is far from a 'shitty' MC.

[AnalKiddo]

Hell NOOO.
I rate is somewhere between Late Registration and Graduation.
And HELL No. This isn't the most overrated Kanye Album. Graduation was by far the most overrated.
1.The College Dropout
2.Late Registration
3.My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
4.Graduation
5....You know...

I don't know why the hell people disregard 808s & Heartbreak, I fuckin love that album - To be honest it's probably my favorite Kanye album (It's probably because of the theme lol)

I understand it's autotuned like no tomorrow but lyrically it's amazing

[I'mShady]

Hell NOOO.
I rate is somewhere between Late Registration and Graduation.
And HELL No. This isn't the most overrated Kanye Album. Graduation was by far the most overrated.
1.The College Dropout
2.Late Registration
3.My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
4.Graduation
5....You know...

I don't know why the hell people disregard 808s & Heartbreak, I fuckin love that album - To be honest it's probably my favorite Kanye album (It's probably because of the theme lol)

I understand it's autotuned like no tomorrow but lyrically it's amazing

Lol I just looked up and Rolling Stone has ranked that album 64th best of the decade while The Eminem Show is on 84. hahahahaha

[dead prez]

Chronic had great lyrics, what were you listening to?

If I slip than I'm slippin

Chronic was D.O.C in his prime.

You mean Cube's prime?

And Dre is far from a 'shitty' MC.

I guess, but do you think he's better than Ye mc wise?

[momentisgolden]

Lol I just looked up and Rolling Stone has ranked that album 64th best of the decade while The Eminem Show is on 84. hahahahaha

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[KillahBee]

Which could someone tell me the story of the album? I understand bits and pieces, mostly the second half.

The whole album is a metaphor for Kanye's career up to this point

Dark Fantasy is his introduction into the rap game

Gorgeous is Kanye hitting back on everybody who doubted him and the beat switch for Raekwon's verse is to symbolise the fact that 'Ye is on the same track as one of his idols, futher proving that he's made it

POWER is a key track, this is Kanye at his most cocky, confident, but most vulnerable state of mind, as the song goes on you can see that the fame is starting to that it's tole, "this will be a beautiful death, jumping out the window, letting everything go". This really sets the tone for the rest of the album

All of The Lights is Kanye describing his personal problems, again that fame has brought on him, listen closely to the hook, "I want you to see everything, EVERYTHING, all of the Lights" - all of the lights = metaphor for problems, and you'll hear the phrase being used 2-3 more times on the album

Monster = 'Ye's response to the Taylor Swift incident, "gossip, gossip, ni**ga just stop it, everybody knows I'm a mothafuckin' monster"

So Appalled I'm not too sure about, I think it could be Kanye again hitting back at the criticism he got over the Taylor Swift incident, Jay also uses this track to hit back at his critics, and Pusha also drops one the "realest" verses of his career

Devil in New Dress is the start of Kanye's relationship issues (which is the theme for the next 2 songs as well). This is 'Ye reflecting on the times he spent with his girl, the guitar solo is used to add to the "reflective" theme of this song

Runaway is another key track possibly the biggest song of West's career, and maybe the biggest moment of clarity I’ve heard on a rap album. Like Devil in a New Dress, the first half of this song is also a reflective track. It starts off with how ‘Ye doesn’t care how he treats women, “I sent this girl a picture of my dick”, as the goes on though you can see that Kanye gradually starts to show remorse, and the final 3 minutes is basically Kanye crying/breaking down into a vocoder after he’s finally realised what he’s done. The first minute and a half of this is very distorted because ‘Ye’s mind is all over the place, but as things start to sink in, everything becomes clear (Kanye’s thoughts and what he was mumbling into the vocoder).

Hell of A Life is Kanye going on a drug fuelled rampage to try and forget what happened

Blame Game is his break up with Amber Rose. All the different voice effects on here are used to convey Kanye’s emotions. This is also another song where he uses the phrase “all of the lights” when talking about his problems. The Chris Rock skit at the end is the scene that Kanye talks about at the end of his part of the song. It’s a weird skit because the first time I heard it I laughed, then when I actually thought about how I’d react if I rang my girl and heard this kind of conversation going on, I felt sympathetic for ‘Ye.

Lost in The World is another key track, this is where Kanye is at at this moment and time. It starts off with Kanye being lost, broken, and just feeling totally fucked. But as it goes on ‘Ye becomes more optimistic, and in this song he drops a positive verse which describes Kanye getting back on his feet. “Run from the LIGHTS, run from the night” – Kanye is finally escaping the problems that plagued him throughout the album

That my thoughts on the albums concept, I could be totally wrong, but fuck it!

[Jaz]

Nah.

7/10 overall max.