Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?

[1TS OK4Y]

Relapse sold over or close to 3 million still...and i'm not saying recovery is pop, but it's more pop than his other albums. (and not because of rihanna & pink)


annnnnndd...it was probably pushed hard by the label as well. i'm just wondering why when relapse still sold amazingly for this era.

[IrishShady]

Eminem might have just wanted to explore/try out new rap styles.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

[1TS OK4Y]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

learn 2 read bro, i never said recovery was a pop album

and to the first post, no i meant relapse. it sold near 3 million.

[1TS OK4Y]

actually, relapse sold near 5 million worldwide.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

learn 2 read bro, i never said recovery was a pop album

and to the first post, no i meant relapse. it sold near 3 million.

Did you fucking read my post, or skim it? Here, I'll bold what you should have read.

[Emshady2]

Relapse have sold 2 million in us...

Recovery is near 4 million and it hasn't gone a year yet

[Fa-Q]

because his label made him, simple

[1TS OK4Y]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

learn 2 read bro, i never said recovery was a pop album

and to the first post, no i meant relapse. it sold near 3 million.

Did you fucking read my post, or skim it? Here, I'll bold what you should have read.

then why even bring that entire rant up? completely useless post you made that didn't address anything this thread has brought up

[1TS OK4Y]

because his label made him, simple

but why? relapse has sold more than any rap artists' album (i think?) since 07

[xxTrigger1989xx]

then why even bring that entire rant up? completely useless post you made that didn't address anything this thread has brought up

Um, my post was on topic, buddy. The name of the thread is "Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?" I was explaining how I don't consider it pop. That's definitely on topic. And address...what? Sales? This thread hasn't even BROUGHT UP anything. Sales has nothing to do with Recovery as an album. I was disagreeing, so suddenly it's a useless post because I don't agree?

[1TS OK4Y]

then why even bring that entire rant up? completely useless post you made that didn't address anything this thread has brought up

Um, my post was on topic, buddy. The name of the thread is "Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?" I was explaining how I don't consider it pop. That's definitely on topic. And address...what? Sales? This thread hasn't even BROUGHT UP anything. Sales has nothing to do with Recovery as an album. I was disagreeing, so suddenly it's a useless post because I don't agree?

It's not the topic. Recovery is without a doubt his most popish album. If you argue this then you are more than likely under 18.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

then why even bring that entire rant up? completely useless post you made that didn't address anything this thread has brought up

Um, my post was on topic, buddy. The name of the thread is "Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?" I was explaining how I don't consider it pop. That's definitely on topic. And address...what? Sales? This thread hasn't even BROUGHT UP anything. Sales has nothing to do with Recovery as an album. I was disagreeing, so suddenly it's a useless post because I don't agree?

It's not the topic. Recovery is without a doubt his most popish album. If you argue this then you are more than likely under 18.

I've admitted before that Recovery is his MOST MAINSTREAM album. Not pop, there's a difference. Mainstream doesn't equal bad. If I wasn't on topic, then what is the topic? You have the name of the thread, which implies an argument about Recovery being "popish", then in the OP all you do is talk about sales, which has nothing to do with the title. You haven't even backed up anything you've said about Recovery, you made a statement then expected us all to agree with it. Sales doesn't affect how "poppy" an album is. You're more off-topic than I am, and you made the goddamn thread.

I'm not under 18, but so what if I was? That doesn't make any difference.

So, I do not consider Recovery "pop." I consider it mainstream. There's a difference.

[1TS OK4Y]

I've admitted before that Recovery is his MOST MAINSTREAM album. Not pop, there's a difference. Mainstream doesn't equal bad. If I wasn't on topic, then what is the topic? You have the name of the thread, which implies an argument about Recovery being "popish", then in the OP all you do is talk about sales, which has nothing to do with the title. Sales doesn't affect how "poppy" an album is. You're more off-topic than I am, and you made the goddamn thread.

You're a fucking idiot. Name his most popish album. It's Recovery. I didn't say it was pop, I said it's his most popish album. Get it kiddo?

The point of the thread is why do you think that the label/eminem wanted to go this route when relapse still is the highest selling rap album since 07 (besides recovery)

but you're young so i didn't expect you to fully understand the thread....

[j04370859]

The sales for relapse weren't that amazing really compared to his previous albums It took that album like 14 months to reach double platinum. And you mean the best selling rap album since the carter 3 in 2008 not 2007.