Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?

[Devil'sAdvocate]

He didnt even touch pop on recovery.


yall some dumb ass nikkaz!

[B.A.D.]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

learn 2 read bro, i never said recovery was a pop album

lmao, are you fucking serious???

It's not the topic. Recovery is without a doubt his most popish album. If you argue this then you are more than likely under 18.

look at this dumb fuck.

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this guy is a clear troll.... fuck outta here idiot.

[Sam.]

He didnt even touch pop on recovery.


yall some dumb ass nikkaz!

collabing with pop stars is diff than doin pop.

[shadybaby46]

I would almost go as far to say that Recovery isn't the most mainstream, what makes it anymore mainstream than TES and Encore? , and MMLP sold how many albums in a week? I think he was more mainstream back than.

[Tranquil]

FUCK Recovery, teh only eminyemz album without The Doc = lamest album of his career !!
if recovery was a human it'll be on ENCORE'S dick , dunno how it won best album of 2010

Do you mean without the dre on a track? or on a beat, cause he produced So Bad, and he dosnt write his lyrics, em writes them so..... your not really missing anything

[Decnent]

Because he's spitting on these Pussies (wayne, Drake, Kanye, etc.) by using their style and becoming successful and now he's about to eat them by just signing Slaughterhouse and Yelawolf so he can push them around with a lyrical assault.

[flyingmonkey10]

cuz he's a pussy

[Edge]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

We're allowed to have are own opinions. If I wanna call recovery pop I can, and I will... just because his verses talk violence doesn't make it unpop. The beats are mostly popish, the hooks are mostly popish and he uses mad punchlines which he never did this much bc thts what's popular right now.... I love the cd but its by far his most pop cd and even not for em its pop. Especially more than relapse which minus cab and wmy is antipop music

[Hiphopdane]

Airplay, money. I don't think Em cares about the latter but his label sure does. I don't mind the beats that much on Recovery but even for a mainstream/radio friendly album, he could have chosen a lot better beats. Worst thing though is that there are like 4, maybe even more, different musical directions on the album.

[1TS OK4Y]

i just don't get why em "wanted to sell more music" ...he's always been against that. that's why you kids are retarded for thinking this is ok.

thats why i asked if you were young..simply because you don't know the standard most people hold eminem to

[IrishShady]

Is it just me or is the first post extremely confusing?

[gutawafang]

Why do you think Em went a more popish route with recovery?

Hehehehehehehehe!

It's cuz he's gonna win.

[Wreck]

He said himself in an interview that he wanted to work with new producers, and try new things, he was doing music with Drake and all them, so that's why he knew Bo1-da and worked with him, Jim Jonsin is becoming more well known now in hip hop in general, especially as a pop hip hop producer, Dre obviously always brings that type of music out of him, in So Bad, and I guess he also wasn't getting high anymore so he knew what he wanted to do music wise, even if it was different then the past, on top of him wanting to try new things musically as well. As far as having songs with Rihanna and Pink, he said he just saw them on the songs, and I did too.

[CathleenM]

Recovery isn't "popish." These are normal sounding beats that any other rapper could jump on and it wouldn't be considered "pop" (I know that's what you're referring to, if you don't think Rihanna makes it "pop"), but it is when Eminem jumps on it. The poppiest song, LTWYL, still isn't even all THAT poppy. The chorus might be, but Em's verses aren't. Space Bound, another "popish" song, isn't poppy at all, listen to the violence of the 3rd verse.

I'm tired of people calling Recovery pop (I know you said you didn't, before you jump down my throat. This is to anyone). It IS NOT pop, not even "popish." It has a small number of songs that have pop influence, but for the most part Em is still quite unfiltered.

I agree. People say that Recovery is just too much "popish" but I don't know what's so "popish" on it.
I mean, he has still his violence and aggressiveness like always. And yeah... He changed, but he didn't become "popish".

[Esstee616]

Recovery isnt exactly pop but of course it is more popish then any other Em album, a fool can see that. Compare the beats of MMLP and Recovery. And i think he must of been influenced to go down a more 'popish' route, likely as a result of Relapse' mixed responses. If Relapse sold amazingly, and had great reviews, Relapse 2 (Recovery probably wouldnt have existed) would not have down gone down that 'popish' road.