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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Sam. » Mar 15th, '11, 19:56

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Wreckless Music wrote:You gotta admit Devil In A New Dress is a sickkkkkk song, including all parts, mostly Kanye's, but Ross had a cool verse too.

only thing i like about RR is his choice of beats and his delivery ,cool songs to bump in the car :rock: ,never the less "Super High" was the last song i ever liked even tho it was just mediocre .


You wasn't feelin BMF with SP? Yeah and that's how 50's songs are too lol, songs to bump in the car, nothing else, where I actually like to bump RR songs that I like in the car & outside of the car, but it's not the same for me with 50. 50 I can drive around with friends listening to Straight To The Bank, or Patiently Waiting, or Amusement Park.

Including that song man, i may have fucked up my words but yeah the track with style p was dope too.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 19:57

MCSam wrote:Including that song man, i may have fucked up my words but yeah the track with style p was dope too.


Yeah I agree.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 20:08

C.R.E.A.M wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:Eh Peep Show is terrible I think, I always fast forward it to Em's part, then 40 seconds later I turn it off, I think the bridge is horrendous in that, and the verses, especially for a song called Peep Show, are horrible. I can make a Peep Show type song way better than 50. And I agree, I like Window Shopper, and eh How To Rob is cool, but nothing special really, except for the little jabs and that really doesn't count for much. A lot of rappers gave Ross' album the best album of the year in 2010, I can post links, I totally disagree with that because Recovery was number 1 and a few others were better, but Ross' album was better than 50's no doubt.


50's BISD was nothing special compared to his previous work , not even close to Massacre
Have A Party is my chill song besides Wiz's YW&F
Ross album was better than his previous work , so he just had a better year , doesn't mean he's a better artist
but if you took Teflon Don & compared it to The Massacre or GRODT (50's prime) .. it'll loss in an ugly way
50 does all types of songs .. there's angry songs (Don't Push Me) , there's nice chill songs (Have a Party) , there's some love shit (21 Questions) , songs about drugs (High All The Time) , then guns & gangsta shit (Many Men) , pimpin' & bragging shit (P.I.M.P) then there's songs where he takes jabs at everybody (How To Rob) , dancing shit (Disco Inferno) and there's allot of stuff next to this

in every album there's a song about anything , he's the type of artist that you won't like unless you hear the entire album .. :y:


Yeah I know 50 does all types of songs, but he's not that good of a musician as people on here give him the credit for, he mostly does songs about guns, or club songs these days, the bragging occurs within those 2 categories nowadays usually, and he's not as angry as he was in the past, on song material. And The Massacre was terrible man, any of Ross albums were better than that shit. Get Rich, none of Ross' albums were close to, I totally agree, but The Massacre was horrendous, idk why everybody on here loves that album. The lyrics in it are absolutely garbage. And BISD is even with Massacre, doesn't have as good quality songs, but then again no songs on their are as bad as they were on Massacre, and I didn't like BISD either, but it's nothing special, nor nothing that kills your ears like Candy Shop did, I liked the song with Ne-Yo too. Then again, I didn't really listen to BISD as much as I did with The Massacre so I can't even fully judge as well.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 20:40

C.R.E.A.M wrote:i dont agree with you saying its a bad album .. but thats your opinion and i cant change it , especially since you heard the whole thing (as i suppose)
what did you think about Curtis then ? , IMO its better than Massacre
Still Will Kill is one of 50's best songs , the album is the shit


Curtis is cool, and totally better than Massacre. SWK is cool but Curtis 187 is my shit, that song and beat are sick, Fully Loaded Clip & Come & Go are cool too, among the other songs I do like on that album. Btw, he's totally talking about Game on Come And Go.

Btw, Flight 187 is my shit too.

And The Massacre is terrible, let me explain why. It's an album of whack club songs. That's not what hip hop is about. Hip hop is about street shit, lyricism or just good songs, not a whole fucking album full of candy shop material, am I wrong?

In My Hood I like, and I like ISTDT but stupid fucking lyrics like this is what makes 50 a retard.

"Its elementary, life is but a dream
You know row, row ya boat, your blood forms a stream"

what is 50 a 3 year old, row row your boat, your blood forms a stream? :laughing: i'm sorry, i like that song and i like that lyric, but analyzing that lyric, he sounds gay as shit, and like a 2 year old.

Piggy Bank was just terrible. Do I really have to break down what he's saying in the song, besides all the lyrics? Cause I can.

"Clickity Clank, Clickity clank, the money goes into my piggy bank." again, sounds like a 3 year old wrote this. he's finding all these different ways to say he gets money, well ok 50, we know that by now, you make a shitload of money, you made a song called Piggy Bank, you made a song called I Get Money, you made a song called Straight To The Bank, we get it, Jesus Christ. but calling it a piggy bank and actually making the sounds in the song that occur when you put money into a piggy bank as a little kid are kinda weird, creative yes, yet also corny, yes :y:. Also in this song, dissing Fat Joe and Jadakiss, who both murked you anyway, was unnecessary. He praised Fat Joe in the past and Joe and Jada had no problems with him, and 50 got butt hurt just cause he did a song with his enemy, in which Ja Rule dissed him on (New York), not the other two. That's a bitch move. Ok you're on a song with somebody I hate, I'm not mad at you, I just hate the guy, and my enemy in the song disses me, yet I'm still gonna diss the people that did nothing to me. That makes total sense. (Not).

Gatman And Robbin, shitty song. It's ok, but 99% of Em and 50's collabs are totally better lyrically and conceptually than this. The concept was just corny, beat was cool, Em's verse was good, but 50's was decent, nothing great, not bad, but just the concept annoyed me alone.

Candy Shop- I won't even go into. But the video I will say he's stripping, which is gay as fuck. Fat Joe and Game and a million other people have noticed this as well in their disses of him. Olivia sounds and looks like a man in here, the video is terrible, and it's a terrible attempt at a club song. You wanna make a good club song, and promote your album? Ok. Make a In Da Club type song, not this whack garbage of a song.

Outta Control I liked. It was a sick Dre beat that 50 rode perfectly, and it was a good club song.

Get In My Car- whack.
My Toy Soldier, good song, I liked it, but didn't Em right before that do a song called Like Toy Soldiers? um yeah. and another song about guns, so this song loses a little bit of value after those 2 things. And Yayo's verse, oh-my-god. "waves on my head like a tsunami hit it" :laughing:. A lot of these songs on here and on Yayo's album sound like they could reversed easily, they sound the same. And I'll add, Yayo comes out of jail and that's the first song he puts out? So Seductive?

Baltimore Love Thing was cool too but this album had so many horrible things about it, horrible concepts, horrible club songs, horrible disses, and lyrics that are hilarious that I posted above.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby FreeSpeech » Mar 15th, '11, 21:53

Wreckless Music wrote:And The Massacre is terrible, let me explain why. It's an album of whack club songs. That's not what hip hop is about. Hip hop is about street shit, lyricism or just good songs, not a whole fucking album full of candy shop material, am I wrong?
It has only a few club songs, and they were huge hits.

In My Hood I like, and I like ISTDT but stupid fucking lyrics like this is what makes 50 a retard.

"Its elementary, life is but a dream
You know row, row ya boat, your blood forms a stream"

what is 50 a 3 year old, row row your boat, your blood forms a stream? :laughing: i'm sorry, i like that song and i like that lyric, but analyzing that lyric, he sounds gay as shit, and like a 2 year old.
It's sarcastic, he's mocking by putting ominous lyrics to a child's song. Tons of other rappers do the same thing, listen to DMX's X Is Coming.


Piggy Bank was just terrible. Do I really have to break down what he's saying in the song, besides all the lyrics? Cause I can.

"Clickity Clank, Clickity clank, the money goes into my piggy bank." again, sounds like a 3 year old wrote this. he's finding all these different ways to say he gets money, well ok 50, we know that by now, you make a shitload of money, you made a song called Piggy Bank, you made a song called I Get Money, you made a song called Straight To The Bank, we get it, Jesus Christ. but calling it a piggy bank and actually making the sounds in the song that occur when you put money into a piggy bank as a little kid are kinda weird, creative yes, yet also corny, yes :y:. Also in this song, dissing Fat Joe and Jadakiss, who both murked you anyway, was unnecessary. He praised Fat Joe in the past and Joe and Jada had no problems with him, and 50 got butt hurt just cause he did a song with his enemy, in which Ja Rule dissed him on (New York), not the other two. That's a bitch move. Ok you're on a song with somebody I hate, I'm not mad at you, I just hate the guy, and my enemy in the song disses me, yet I'm still gonna diss the people that did nothing to me. That makes total sense. (Not).
The point of the song is "Fuck you, I get money no matter what i do." The chorus works perfectly. The lyrics are good too. And yes 50 picks fights with everyone, he has his whole life. It makes him entertaining.

Gatman And Robbin, shitty song. It's ok, but 99% of Em and 50's collabs are totally better lyrically and conceptually than this. The concept was just corny, beat was cool, Em's verse was good, but 50's was decent, nothing great, not bad, but just the concept annoyed me alone.
It's no more corny than all of Em's stuff like Business. Just because it isn't one of their top collabs doesn't mean it's bad.

Candy Shop- I won't even go into. But the video I will say he's stripping, which is gay as fuck. Fat Joe and Game and a million other people have noticed this as well in their disses of him. Olivia sounds and looks like a man in here, the video is terrible, and it's a terrible attempt at a club song. You wanna make a good club song, and promote your album? Ok. Make a In Da Club type song, not this whack garbage of a song.
Ever consider he didn't make this song for guys? Girls LOVED 50, they go crazy over this kinda stuff. This song blew up.

Outta Control I liked. It was a sick Dre beat that 50 rode perfectly, and it was a good club song.

Get In My Car- whack.
Eh it's whatever, I won't argue on this one.

My Toy Soldier, good song, I liked it, but didn't Em right before that do a song called Like Toy Soldiers? um yeah. and another song about guns, so this song loses a little bit of value after those 2 things. And Yayo's verse, oh-my-god. "waves on my head like a tsunami hit it" :laughing:. A lot of these songs on here and on Yayo's album sound like they could reversed easily, they sound the same. And I'll add, Yayo comes out of jail and that's the first song he puts out? So Seductive?
It has 0 similarities to Em's song, they were probably made around the same time. For all we know 50 made his before Em's. And So Seductive was dope. Damn catchy.

Baltimore Love Thing was cool too but this album had so many horrible things about it, horrible concepts, horrible club songs, horrible disses, and lyrics that are hilarious that I posted above.
How is Disco Inferno a terrible club song? And Just A Lil Bit was a huge hit too. You ignored tons of good songs too. Gunz Come Out, Outta Control, Position of Power, and I Don't Need Em are are very good. Sure it isn't as good as GRODT, and has some filler, but to say the album is horrible is ridiculous. If you want lyrical, crazy deep songs from 50, you'll always be disappointed.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby dead prez » Mar 15th, '11, 22:00

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:50 is the most real rapper ever,dude is as straight as u can be,in yo face to this day,dude doesnt take no for an answer,dude has everybody in the industry fearing him,he dropped a classic album,and 2 IMO very solid albums,ur such an idiot man,im done here.


50 cent real? LOlllll, when you break someone's jaw and force them to retire from rap just because they dissed your group than you can get called real. I'll give you hint he's from the Wu.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 22:06

FreeSpeech wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:And The Massacre is terrible, let me explain why. It's an album of whack club songs. That's not what hip hop is about. Hip hop is about street shit, lyricism or just good songs, not a whole fucking album full of candy shop material, am I wrong?
It has only a few club songs, and they were huge hits.

In My Hood I like, and I like ISTDT but stupid fucking lyrics like this is what makes 50 a retard.

"Its elementary, life is but a dream
You know row, row ya boat, your blood forms a stream"

what is 50 a 3 year old, row row your boat, your blood forms a stream? :laughing: i'm sorry, i like that song and i like that lyric, but analyzing that lyric, he sounds gay as shit, and like a 2 year old.
It's sarcastic, he's mocking by putting ominous lyrics to a child's song. Tons of other rappers do the same thing, listen to DMX's X Is Coming.


Piggy Bank was just terrible. Do I really have to break down what he's saying in the song, besides all the lyrics? Cause I can.

"Clickity Clank, Clickity clank, the money goes into my piggy bank." again, sounds like a 3 year old wrote this. he's finding all these different ways to say he gets money, well ok 50, we know that by now, you make a shitload of money, you made a song called Piggy Bank, you made a song called I Get Money, you made a song called Straight To The Bank, we get it, Jesus Christ. but calling it a piggy bank and actually making the sounds in the song that occur when you put money into a piggy bank as a little kid are kinda weird, creative yes, yet also corny, yes :y:. Also in this song, dissing Fat Joe and Jadakiss, who both murked you anyway, was unnecessary. He praised Fat Joe in the past and Joe and Jada had no problems with him, and 50 got butt hurt just cause he did a song with his enemy, in which Ja Rule dissed him on (New York), not the other two. That's a bitch move. Ok you're on a song with somebody I hate, I'm not mad at you, I just hate the guy, and my enemy in the song disses me, yet I'm still gonna diss the people that did nothing to me. That makes total sense. (Not).
The point of the song is "Fuck you, I get money no matter what i do." The chorus works perfectly. The lyrics are good too. And yes 50 picks fights with everyone, he has his whole life. It makes him entertaining.

Gatman And Robbin, shitty song. It's ok, but 99% of Em and 50's collabs are totally better lyrically and conceptually than this. The concept was just corny, beat was cool, Em's verse was good, but 50's was decent, nothing great, not bad, but just the concept annoyed me alone.
It's no more corny than all of Em's stuff like Business. Just because it isn't one of their top collabs doesn't mean it's bad.

Candy Shop- I won't even go into. But the video I will say he's stripping, which is gay as fuck. Fat Joe and Game and a million other people have noticed this as well in their disses of him. Olivia sounds and looks like a man in here, the video is terrible, and it's a terrible attempt at a club song. You wanna make a good club song, and promote your album? Ok. Make a In Da Club type song, not this whack garbage of a song.
Ever consider he didn't make this song for guys? Girls LOVED 50, they go crazy over this kinda stuff. This song blew up.

Outta Control I liked. It was a sick Dre beat that 50 rode perfectly, and it was a good club song.

Get In My Car- whack.
Eh it's whatever, I won't argue on this one.

My Toy Soldier, good song, I liked it, but didn't Em right before that do a song called Like Toy Soldiers? um yeah. and another song about guns, so this song loses a little bit of value after those 2 things. And Yayo's verse, oh-my-god. "waves on my head like a tsunami hit it" :laughing:. A lot of these songs on here and on Yayo's album sound like they could reversed easily, they sound the same. And I'll add, Yayo comes out of jail and that's the first song he puts out? So Seductive?
It has 0 similarities to Em's song, they were probably made around the same time. For all we know 50 made his before Em's. And So Seductive was dope. Damn catchy.

Baltimore Love Thing was cool too but this album had so many horrible things about it, horrible concepts, horrible club songs, horrible disses, and lyrics that are hilarious that I posted above.
How is Disco Inferno a terrible club song? And Just A Lil Bit was a huge hit too. You ignored tons of good songs too. Gunz Come Out, Outta Control, Position of Power, and I Don't Need Em are are very good. Sure it isn't as good as GRODT, and has some filler, but to say the album is horrible is ridiculous. If you want lyrical, crazy deep songs from 50, you'll always be disappointed.


I said above that I liked Outta Control. Candy Shop is still a whack club song. Disco Inferno is a good club song I said that, or I meant to say that, but it's still nothing special. No, Business is way fucking better then GAR, bad comparison I think. Position of Power was decent, I Don't Need Em and Gunz Come Out aren't bad, but aren't great 50 songs like on Get Rich. And I'm not looking for lyrical songs, I know he's a terrible lyricist, but if you go back above at my post and look at the examples of lyrics that he wrote, it looks like a 2 year old wrote them :laughing:. No shit I know he is saying he has money, but did you listen to when I said in the breakdown of that song that's all he talks about a million times. It gets old after awhile when you make 500 records about the same thing. Yeah the album is horrible, and compared to Get Rich, back to back albums, it's terrible. Name me an album that was as bad as a follow up as Massacre? Can't do it. And it's terrible. If I want to listen to an album full of club songs I'll put on Sean Paul's latest album. Even then, it'll be worst. 50 picks fights with everybody because he's a fucking bitch, hip hop there's battling, and beefs, but he has hardly any friends in this business, and mostly enemies. Game has had a lot of beefs too but Game also is friends with a lot more rappers in this bus. as well. Just A Lil Bit was a cool CLUB SONG, i don't wanna hear 50 fucking club songs on an album, do you get my point there or not? At least with Get Rich he mixed it up perfectly. (Good) Club Song, In Da Club, dark song- Many Men, club song- P.I.M.P. a good song about girls- 21 Questions, not 22 songs about the same thing. And my point about Yayo was that he comes out of jail acting hard, but then the first song he releases is by the name of So Seductive. Yayo is a bitch too. Waves on my head lookin like a tsunami hit it, that one is still a killer :laughing:.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 22:15

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:Image :laughing: :laughing:

50 is a cunt, and his fan base are douches sticking up for a guy who beefs with half the industry. He's not a legend. "I'll take ya to the candy shopppppp" :laughing: :laughing:


50 is the most real rapper ever,dude is as straight as u can be,in yo face to this day,dude doesnt take no for an answer,dude has everybody in the industry fearing him,he dropped a classic album,and 2 IMO very solid albums,ur such an idiot man,im done here.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :facepalm This is still hilarious! 50 Cent is real :laughing:. I'm gonna name all the people he's dissed, started shit with, or beefed with in the industry, a lot of them for no reason.

Ja Rule/Irv Gotti/Black Child/Murder Inc.
Game
Cam'ron
Jim Jones
Rick Ross
Jadakiss
Nas
Styles P
Fat Joe
Lil Wayne
he's said shit recently about Dre and Jimmy Iovine
Young Buck
Kelis
Lil Kim
Jay-Z
Diddy
Kanye West
T.I.
& I'm probably missing a few more.

He can't keep his fucking mouth shut. Whoever shot him should of shot him more in the mouth, and that's not fucked up, because he's a prick who constantly opens his mouth.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby SlimShadyX313X » Mar 15th, '11, 22:19

Man FUCK Rick Ross, I always hated him and I always will.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 15th, '11, 22:19

Killa wrote:Who would of knew a thread about Rick Ross would have Essay like posts in :sweating:


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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby stillmatic » Mar 16th, '11, 00:17

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Listen to Ghetto Quran, he says a bunch of shit & they killed JMJ because of his affiliation with 50 and he angered Kenneth Supreme McGriff. Read this.

US Investigators Uncover Plot To Kill 50 Cent.It is also rumored that the song Ghetto Quran, and the following music industry blacklisting of 50 Cent by Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff and his associates, led to the murder of Run DMC's Jam Master Jay, who defied the blacklisting by taking the young 50 Cent under his wing, introducing him to the music industry. According to an affidavit by IRS agent Francis Mace, law enforcement officials believed that the shooting of 50 Cent in 2000 was in retaliation for the lyrics of the son


Wait...that's your proof? I expected at least some excerpts from Irving Lorenzo interviews the last few years.

First of all Ghetto Q'uran was not taken in any way by any members of the Supreme Team as a "tell all", it was taken as a diss, the way 50 intended for it to be. Not one person was indited as a result of that song, that possibility only came out some 5 years later once everything had already gone down and the people at Murder Inc. were clutching at straws and looking for anything, including making fake documents. The fact that you're taking one paragraph which admittedly says it's a rumor as the main point of your argument shows how weak it is.

Secondly, I'm sorry homie but I have to call you a fucking idiot for the JMJ thing. I say this because my moms has been childhood friends with JMJ's wife Terri. Her and JMJ resided about 5 miles away from us, her son Jason has played ball with us hundreds of times. So for you to speak so simple minded about JMJ is insulting. It would be so easy for someone like her to blame this on 50 too and get some publicity, but she was right there with Fif the whole time when he made the documentary in 2009. If you approached her and said that to her, she'd probably just wonder why the world is so fucking stupid, but only in her amazing graceful way. 50 didn't get JMJ killed, that's one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read in my life. JMJ was a man, he saw talent, he nurtured it and made it one of the biggest icons in hip hop history. Who the fuck are The Supreme Team to demand anything? These motherfuckers are responsible for thousands of deaths in our neighborhoods, so JMJ was a MAN for doing what he wanted. It wasn't about defying them either, it was simply about music for him, and that speaks volumes about the man.

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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 16th, '11, 00:23

stillmatic wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:
Listen to Ghetto Quran, he says a bunch of shit & they killed JMJ because of his affiliation with 50 and he angered Kenneth Supreme McGriff. Read this.

US Investigators Uncover Plot To Kill 50 Cent.It is also rumored that the song Ghetto Quran, and the following music industry blacklisting of 50 Cent by Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff and his associates, led to the murder of Run DMC's Jam Master Jay, who defied the blacklisting by taking the young 50 Cent under his wing, introducing him to the music industry. According to an affidavit by IRS agent Francis Mace, law enforcement officials believed that the shooting of 50 Cent in 2000 was in retaliation for the lyrics of the son


Wait...that's your proof? I expected at least some excerpts from Irving Lorenzo interviews the last few years.

First of all Ghetto Q'uran was not taken in any way by any members of the Supreme Team as a "tell all", it was taken as a diss, the way 50 intended for it to be. Not one person was indited as a result of that song, that possibility only came out some 5 years later once everything had already gone down and the people at Murder Inc. were clutching at straws and looking for anything, including making fake documents. The fact that you're taking one paragraph which admittedly says it's a rumor as the main point of your argument shows how weak it is.

Secondly, I'm sorry homie but I have to call you a fucking idiot for the JMJ thing. I say this because my moms has been childhood friends with JMJ's wife Terri. Her and JMJ resided about 5 miles away from us, her son Jason has played ball with us hundreds of times. So for you to speak so simple minded about JMJ is insulting. It would be so easy for someone like her to blame this on 50 too and get some publicity, but she was right there with Fif the whole time when he made the documentary in 2009. If you approached her and said that to her, she'd probably just wonder why the world is so fucking stupid, but her in amazing graceful way. 50 didn't get JMJ killed, that's one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read in my life. JMJ was a man, he saw talent, he nurtured it and made it one of the biggest icons in hip hop history. Who the fuck are The Supreme Team to demand anything? These motherfuckers are responsible for thousands of deaths in our neighborhoods, so JMJ was a MAN for doing what he wanted. It wasn't about defying them either, it was simply about music for him, and that speaks volumes about the man.

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Ok I admit you beat me in that argument, nice work, but I still believe they he had SOMETHING to do with it, I'm not saying 100% of it was his fault, but I believe a little bit had to do with it. And nah, that would be dumb to quote Gotti when it comes to that. And a lot of people think this, not just me, just because your "mom knows" JMJ and 50, that's why you know more about it. 50 is an icon? :laughing: oh God that's hilarious. And I love JMJ, who says that I don't, and that he's not a legend. No doubt that he is, and that he saw talent in 50 BACK THEN, before he dumbed himself down to the millionth degree. But as far as theories go, as my opinion, it's that 50 mentioning drug lords and murderers names like that, it angered them.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby stillmatic » Mar 16th, '11, 00:37

Fine, whatever. 50 is not an icon, he's a shitty rapper. Whatever. That's not my point at all anyway.

With Ghetto Quran, it was intended to anger them. That song was made by 50 after he had learned of all the things they had done behind his back, including the murder of his friend Tyrell which was ordered by Supreme's nephew Gerald. 50 made that song to let them know he knew everything about their operations. What makes me laugh is that we're some 13 years later, and only now some people clutching and trying to portray 50 as a snitch for that song. That's embarrassing. At the time when it came out, all it was was a diss, and not ONE person came out with any snitch accusations at the time. Yawn.

If Ghetto Quran makes 50 a snitch, then a song like Get Down makes Nas a snitch. Many of the songs on Reasonable Doubt make Jay-Z a snitch. See how this logic is so flawed?

The JMJ logic is even more silly. Let me get this straight, when Eminem was signed by Dr. Dre, he was beefing with Everlast. If Everlast's people went and shot Dr. Dre for signing Eminem, would that make Dre's murder Eminem's fault? No. Of course not.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Wreck » Mar 16th, '11, 03:20

stillmatic wrote:Fine, whatever. 50 is not an icon, he's a shitty rapper. Whatever. That's not my point at all anyway.

With Ghetto Quran, it was intended to anger them. That song was made by 50 after he had learned of all the things they had done behind his back, including the murder of his friend Tyrell which was ordered by Supreme's nephew Gerald. 50 made that song to let them know he knew everything about their operations. What makes me laugh is that we're some 13 years later, and only now some people clutching and trying to portray 50 as a snitch for that song. That's embarrassing. At the time when it came out, all it was was a diss, and not ONE person came out with any snitch accusations at the time. Yawn.

If Ghetto Quran makes 50 a snitch, then a song like Get Down makes Nas a snitch. Many of the songs on Reasonable Doubt make Jay-Z a snitch. See how this logic is so flawed?

The JMJ logic is even more silly. Let me get this straight, when Eminem was signed by Dr. Dre, he was beefing with Everlast. If Everlast's people went and shot Dr. Dre for signing Eminem, would that make Dre's murder Eminem's fault? No. Of course not.


Your comparison isn't right because Supreme was after 50, Everlast isn't affiliated with the mob not that I know, so it's not technically a fair comparison, but I get your point, and I guess I will admit to being in the wrong here cause you came through on your argument, even though I still think they were after him. So think about it like this. Say I'm an up and coming rapper, which I am anyway, and you're a big icon in hip hop, and a great producer, who's taking me under your wing now, making beats for me, signing me to your imprint, etc. If I was in trouble with the mob and pissing them off, wouldn't you think they would kill anybody close to me to get to me, or to get even? 50 at that time= no mother, no father, no siblings, no friends in the business besides JMJ, so they could of killed him based on my logic there, which I think is a good one, even if I don't know the whole story, or anybody personally anyway, like you may have.
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Re: Rick Ross stepped his game up...

Postby Sam. » Mar 16th, '11, 13:33

Killa wrote:Who would of knew a thread about Rick Ross would have Essay like posts in :sweating:

:laughing: yeah man wtf
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