stillmatic wrote:Well I don't think so, because every interview I've seen him in he sounds like more a fucking idiot. Classic example, when the whole world was watching and he did the Katie Couric interview.
I'm talking about his music, lol.
Wu had an aura about them as a clan, as a group, as a clique. When they were together, there was a feeling around them. But Raekwon by himself? Ghostface by himself? No, they didn't have an aura about them.
Rae and Ghost made an excellent duo.
His general nature, his slang, his flow, his past, his rise, his attitude but most of all, his confidence.
Congrats, Ghost has all those qualities. Minus the past and rise, but who care about those?
Yes it is someone elses opinion, but it is someone who has credibility. It's not just one person either, it's an entire camp that most people in hip hop grew up on. The Source was like an uncle for hip hop fan who would educate us. At least that's how it was in my neighbourhood and a lot of New York. It's really not a magazine, it was like a newspaper for the 'hood.
That's cool, but if you are educated on the matter and past the point of making reasonable deduction skills yourself, you should able to formulate your own opinion and not have to rely on a magazine to tell what is and isn't.
There would only be a flaw in my argument if The Source had the same credibility it did back then as it did now and listed Wayne as the best rapper alive. Plus, the general groups of people calling Wayne as the best rapper alive now are mostly people who don't have a great understanding of the hip hop culture, I don't believe they are hip hop fans first and foremost. It's not about quantity at all.
See you're still appealing to authority though, to try and make a point. Being that because Source says Biggie is the King of Ny, it must be true. Yeah they have credibility, but you should take it with a grain of salt.
I could also make a case for many people calling Biggie the King Of Ny, being ignorant towards other Hip Hop. Biggie was famous, so of course, you're going to have tons of people herald him as the king, they're just lucky that who they're heralding as king is a respectable mc.
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Again the first two songs are Wu Tang as a group tracks, not solo Ghost or Rae songs. Nas' song is after Illmatic, which is the Nas that I'm talking about. Nas after It was written where his music was a little bit more relate able did claim the New York throne, but it was still not as emotionally moving as Biggie's.
Criminology is probably Rae's biggest hit, yet and OB4CL was responsible for starting the mafioso trend, er making it popular. Yes I know G rap pioneered it, after that album many albums followed his formula, most notably Biggie.
The World is yours isn't up there with any radio friendly, Biggie song?
Again, king of NY wasn't just about the quality of an album. If it was, then Nas would king straight away after Illmatic because it was better than any Biggie album. But its not. King of NY had to have a quality record, but also more. That's my point really, it's not me saying Biggie was king because he had better albums than Nas or Wu at all.
What else do we base it off of than, if popularity plays no role in being the King Of Ny?
When I'm talking King of NY, I'm talking in terms of general perception though amongst the NY hip hop fans that I witnessed, that I saw with my eyes, that I heard with my ears.
Who would they be exactly? People on forums, the streets? lol
If it was my opinion, then I'd give Prodigy a run towards the late 90's ahead of Hov on anyday, but I'm speaking in terms of general view. That's why I'm coming off as so negative towards Wu here, I love Wu, but I can see in terms of the mass hip hop NY fan appeal, Ghost was never close to the NY throne. Raekwon got a little close.
Post 00, you can make a case for him. He rose amidst the Wu ranks and into an all time legend with Supreme Clientele and Fish Scale, when even supposed kings like Nas and Jay were already falling off.
